More taxes... (Read 13632 times)

drck1000

Re: More taxes...
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2020, 04:01:52 PM »
here we go with that race card. There was nothing racist about his response at all. Its just like saying someone doesn't like Chinese food.
See what you started?  :rofl:

How people seem to turn everything back into the same broken record. . .  :crazy:

Inspector

Re: More taxes...
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2020, 04:10:54 PM »
here we go with that race card. There was nothing racist about his response at all. Its just like saying someone doesn't like Chinese food.
Does the fact that I brought Chinese food home for my wife tonight so she doesn’t have to cook mean I have “Yellow Fever”? Or if I decide not to go to the Chinese restaurant mean I’m racist?  :wtf:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

drck1000

Re: More taxes...
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2020, 04:12:52 PM »
Does the fact that I brought Chinese food home for my wife tonight so she doesn’t have to cook mean I have “Yellow Fever”? Or if I decide not to go to the Chinese restaurant mean I’m racist?  :wtf:
Depends which restaurant you went 😝

Some oyster sauce chicken and steamed fish with black bean sauce sounds good right now.

Wait, hold up. Is liking black bean sauce racist?

Inspector

Re: More taxes...
« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2020, 04:18:56 PM »
Depends which restaurant you went 😝

Some oyster sauce chicken and steamed fish with black bean sauce sounds good right now.

Wait, hold up. Is liking black bean sauce racist?
Went to Kapolei Chinese. Expensive but good.

If you are white and like black bean sauce you ARE racist.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Flapp_Jackson

Re: More taxes...
« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2020, 05:16:17 PM »
No its not.

Serving in the armed forces is not different that any other job. You apply, serve, and get paid with benefits while there.

Once you retire, who says that serving for your country in the military is any different from firemen, police officers, hazmat responders, etc., who had to undergo comparable hazards while employed?

Why should former military get "veterans benefits" and those other highly respectable professionals do not?

Name another job in which you'd be put in prison for quitting.

Or one in which you have next-to-no choice in duty station.  You can REQUEST, but they will assign you to that site only if they need you there.

How about a job in which you can be charged with a crime for disobeying your supervisor?

How about a job that requires you to show up at 3AM in full gear and bag packed, ready to deploy to an undisclosed location for an unknown duration with no notice? 

It's no surprise you'd make such a stupid, ignorant and troll-worthy comment.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

robtmc

Re: More taxes...
« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2020, 07:04:10 PM »
Does the fact that I brought Chinese food home for my wife tonight so she doesn’t have to cook mean I have “Yellow Fever”? Or if I decide not to go to the Chinese restaurant mean I’m racist?  :wtf:
I got no decent Chinese take out, so have to cook it myself.   Does that make me a racissss?

drck1000

Re: More taxes...
« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2020, 07:07:01 PM »
I got no decent Chinese take out, so have to cook it myself.   Does that make me a racissss?
You use black bean sauce?

robtmc

Re: More taxes...
« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2020, 07:08:12 PM »
No its not.

Serving in the armed forces is not different that any other job.  You apply, serve, and get paid with benefits while there.

Once you retire, who says that serving for your country in the military is any different from firemen, police officers, hazmat responders, etc., who had to undergo comparable hazards while employed?

Why should former military get "veterans benefits" and those other highly respectable professionals do not?
Been in the military during a hot situation and been in that area?

Try not to dig your hole deeper.

robtmc

Re: More taxes...
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2020, 07:09:33 PM »
You use black bean sauce?
Got some in the pantry and maybe an opened one in the fridge for the one or two recipes that call for it.

Kuleana

Re: More taxes...
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2020, 08:22:36 PM »
Name another job in which you'd be put in prison for quitting.

Or one in which you have next-to-no choice in duty station.  You can REQUEST, but they will assign you to that site only if they need you there.

How about a job in which you can be charged with a crime for disobeying your supervisor?

How about a job that requires you to show up at 3AM in full gear and bag packed, ready to deploy to an undisclosed location for an unknown duration with no notice? 

It's no surprise you'd make such a stupid, ignorant and troll-worthy comment.


Your opinion.

No one forces anyone to join the armed forces.

Once you join, you accept the perks and risks of being there, similar to any job.

Once you leave, you should face the realities of daily life as anyone else.

Kuleana

Re: More taxes...
« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2020, 08:28:59 PM »
Been in the military during a hot situation and been in that area?

Try not to dig your hole deeper.

Irrelevant.

If members of the armed forces were drafted into the service, as was the case during the Vietnam War; they SHOULD BE given special retirement privileges, as their service was a compulsory matter with respect to the body politic.

Volunteers, however, should know what they are getting themselves into when they enlist.  Any government should not create social entitlements or retirement benefits as a lure for new recruits.

ren

Re: More taxes...
« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2020, 09:04:37 PM »
Went to Kapolei Chinese. Expensive but good.

If you are white and like black bean sauce you ARE racist.

I heard their bat soup is good..so good it;s infectious
Deeds Not Words

ren

Re: More taxes...
« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2020, 09:05:40 PM »
See what you started?  :rofl:

How people seem to turn everything back into the same broken record. . .  :crazy:

what did I do. Groveler didn't say anything waycist. He is always harsh but in his statement it wasn't racist at all.
Deeds Not Words

drck1000

Re: More taxes...
« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2020, 09:20:42 PM »
what did I do. Groveler didn't say anything waycist. He is always harsh but in his statement it wasn't racist at all.
Not him. I meant who you triggered...

drck1000

Re: More taxes...
« Reply #34 on: March 12, 2020, 09:21:44 PM »
Got some in the pantry and maybe an opened one in the fridge for the one or two recipes that call for it.
Love that stuff. Meat of choice and add some snow peas, carrots, etc. Mmm-m-good  :D

Flapp_Jackson

Re: More taxes...
« Reply #35 on: March 12, 2020, 10:49:37 PM »

Your opinion.

No one forces anyone to join the armed forces.

Once you join, you accept the perks and risks of being there, similar to any job.

Once you leave, you should face the realities of daily life as anyone else.

No.  My experience and firsthand knowledge, unlike some others who can only make assumptions based on no direct experience.

No one forces you to be a whiny little bitch who hates America, either.  Yet, here you are.

The realities, as you put it, is that some who served or have close relatives who served understand the sacrifices of their choices and the extreme importance of the jobs we do/have done.  Maybe the discounts are just their way of showing respect, which I really don't think you will ever grasp.

You sound jealous that the US military was able to subdue the people of Hawaii without any resistance.  I guess  the Hawaiians saw protecting their precious nation as a job -- just like any other job such as picking pineapples.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: More taxes...
« Reply #36 on: March 13, 2020, 08:04:29 AM »
No.  My experience and firsthand knowledge, unlike some others who can only make assumptions based on no direct experience.

No one forces you to be a whiny little bitch who hates America, either.  Yet, here you are.

The realities, as you put it, is that some who served or have close relatives who served understand the sacrifices of their choices and the extreme importance of the jobs we do/have done.  Maybe the discounts are just their way of showing respect, which I really don't think you will ever grasp.

You sound jealous that the US military was able to subdue the people of Hawaii without any resistance.  I guess  the Hawaiians saw protecting their precious nation as a job -- just like any other job such as picking pineapples.

wait for it....
wait for it...
sexist card!

would've been nice if he/she/they would whine about anti2A laws in front of legislature
« Last Edit: March 13, 2020, 09:08:04 AM by ren »
Deeds Not Words

groveler

Re: More taxes...
« Reply #37 on: March 13, 2020, 12:18:46 PM »

Your opinion.

No one forces anyone to join the armed forces.

Once you join, you accept the perks and risks of being there, similar to any job.

Once you leave, you should face the realities of daily life as anyone else.
Let me educate you.
A minor arrested for DUI and assault of a police officer gets you 6 years
in the military during the Vietnam era.  Jail or Military,  easy choice.

Perks? What?.  My GI bill ran out and my employer stepped in to fund
my STEM degree. I did use VA to help with my first house.
I get medical from the VA, that is according to the law passed
and modified after the civil war.
It seems that if put young men in a position to get EFF'ed
up you should take some responsibility for that.

I did just fine in the civilian
world.  I see many others at the VA
CBOC( We don't have VA medical centers in HI),
missing parts that they were born with
and others torn apart by what their duties
required.

I don't think you have a clue.



Heavies

Re: More taxes...
« Reply #38 on: March 13, 2020, 02:50:00 PM »
snip.

  Any government should not create social entitlements or retirement benefits as a lure for new recruits.

Correction:
Any government should not create social entitlements or retirements for people who don't do a damn thing. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: More taxes...
« Reply #39 on: March 13, 2020, 03:06:11 PM »
Let me educate you.
A minor arrested for DUI and assault of a police officer gets you 6 years
in the military during the Vietnam era.  Jail or Military,  easy choice.

Perks? What?.  My GI bill ran out and my employer stepped in to fund
my STEM degree. I did use VA to help with my first house.
I get medical from the VA, that is according to the law passed
and modified after the civil war.
It seems that if put young men in a position to get EFF'ed
up you should take some responsibility for that.

I did just fine in the civilian
world.  I see many others at the VA
CBOC( We don't have VA medical centers in HI),
missing parts that they were born with
and others torn apart by what their duties
required.

I don't think you have a clue.

His lame argument is "you KNEW the risks when you signed up, so anything you get is on you."

That's not the point in any way, shape or form.  The government provides care and treatment, as well as financial benefits, because they understand the sacrifices we make. 

Example:  If you can't buy a home because you never stay in the same place long enough to build equity, that's a burden compared to a civilian who works for a union company for a couple of decades with job security, a steady increase in pay and benefits, and the stability to afford a mortgage long enough to pay it off or sell during an up market.  The VA loan benefit is not a handout, anyway.  It simply guarantees a portion of the loan so the buyer doesn't have to come up with as much down payment
, or pay that ridiculous insurance because they financed more than 80%.  It's a "marker" in case you default on the loan so the lender can break even after the property is sold.

That's ONE facet of ONE area of life in the military that is not part of "the job".  It's a quality of life issue that most civilians never stop to wonder about.  You can't have an effective military force unless they know they and their families will be taken care of while they are off training, deployed for training exercises, doing a 1 year unaccompanied tour in S. Korea while he misses school events, birthdays and holidays, and possibly gone for years fighting a war.

No need to let K go off on another tangent about imperialistic wars.  This is not about the government.  It's about the military, and how people like him take them for granted and doesn't respect their choices to serve their country.

10% off at Lowe's isn't taking a dime out of Kuleana's man-purse.  He can CHOOSE to shop elsewhere.   :geekdanc:
« Last Edit: March 14, 2020, 01:12:11 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw