http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2011/06/07/u-n-agreement-should-have-all-gun-owners-up-in-arms/

Will they come for the people's guns?

Well they can go "F" themselves!!

I agree.

We live by the rules of the constitution but yet the peolple who are elected to uphold it trash it.

This subject has be brought up before by the UN, this is not something new.  As stated previously our Constitution trumps whatever the UN & our political UN peeps try to push on the US population.

if a treaty is signed by the U. S. and ratified by the senate. We are toast. It WILL trump the constitution. It Will be tried before the next election in the lame duck congress. Boys..... get ready to see military uniforms in every intersection in hawaii. And just keep voting for democrats and watch our 2a rights be taken away. When will you locals ever learn. The Dems hate guns the republicans though few have fought FOR our 2a rights.But you locals will keep voting the same idiots in office and expecting something different. Keep up the good fight boys.I work in cell block and you'd be surprised how many cops are on our side.I have devoted my life, my fortune to God and this country. I aint gonna quit. It reminds me of a true story out of WW II. The US had the only suppliy line for US troops in europe and the germans were coming for it. It was protected if I remember correctly by a small band of infantry men from the 101st ABN. when the US tanks were retreating back they came across an infantryman flagging them down on the only road out. He stopped them and asked if they were looking for a safe place. The tank commander replied "yes". The lone infantryman replied "then get behind me...cause this is as far as they'll get".If youre looking for a safe place. get behind me cause this is as far as those liberal bastards are gonna go, I promise you. From my cold dead fingers.I HAVE HAD IT.
Pastor Dennis Martin
New Hope Waimea

This topic sounds familiar...

From the "current" article which is actually from 2011:

"While the terms have yet to be made public, if passed by the U.N. and ratified by our Senate, it will almost certainly force the U.S. to:"

Speculation. It has to be since there is no treaty, yet. Nor are there yet terms which could be made public. Nice fear mongering there, don't you think?

Latest "action" on this by the UN was to decide to define what the treaty should address and what scope it should have. You can read the report yourself (http://www.un.org/disarmament/convarms/ATTPrepCom/Documents/PrepCom4%20Documents/PrepCom%20Report_E_20120307.pdf). The real action begins in New York in July.

Since we're speculating... I think they'll decide that the US's existing federal system, which already tracks small arms from point of manufacture to point of sale, is more than adequate to prevent the illicit, black market transfer of firearms from the US to areas of the world where they can do societal harm. They obviously do no societal harm here in the U.S. when compared to Somalia, Syria, Afghanistan, Mexico, etc.

I also speculate that the NRA will continue to use this to drum up support based on the fear that the UN is a'comin' fer our guns. I further speculate that NRA members who actually read the reports and UN discussions about the treaty, rather than the Right Wing summaries, will be somewhat confused as it doesn't really seem to mandate any changes in the way the US handles conventional arms under the scope of the treaty, which include tanks, military vehicles, artillery systems, military aircraft and helicopters, naval vessels, missiles and missile systems, and (finally) small arms, light weapons and the ammunition for all of the above.

Folks, we already have pretty strict control of conventional arms as defined by this treaty plan. The federal background checks already meet the qualifications suggested by the plan. If you need proof try buying a machine gun, silencer, an RPG or a hand grenade. 

edit: whoops. Fixed PDF link...

We should exit the UN.

They are a bad influence on the US. And the world as a whole. JMHO

Why are we even a part of the u.n. they never cared for america or american people.they would love nothing more to do than to light a torch and burn america to the ground.exit the u.n. now america pays these fools to decide the better faith of this country.my true blooded american forefathers spilled american blood for my constitutional rights.I will spill mine to assure that americas constitution isnt destroyed by idiots who care nothing for our freedom.our president is working diligently with his ftist compa.ds and the u.n. to banish our gun rights and that's a fact.u.n. troops will be here to disarm us.in the movie 300 the persian empire told the spartans to lay down there arms and live as slaves under there rule.leonidas had one thing to say.and its the same thing im gonna say.COME AND GET THEME.every born blooded american or american by heart if u beleive in your freedom then prepare for victory.god bless america.

Right now the U.N. is secretly meeting behind closed doors. even the senate oversight committee and DHS have no idea what they are doing.It is outraging U.S. senators to no end. These ARE the people who must be given access to these decisions and are not.Get ready boys....here it comes.Question is...What if anything will or can we do about it?

"F" the damn UN America needs to stop funding these idiots. And kick them out of the US. All there good for is rapping and murdering people. "Congo, sierra leon" they didn't do a damn thing in Darfur even when presented with hard evidence of genocide. All they are is a huge, empty pit that sucks our tax money. I say turn the UN building in NY into homeless shelter.

Treaty Negotiated In Secret – Hidden Even from Congressmen Who Oversee Treaties – Threatens to Destroy National Sovereignty
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Submitted by George Washington on 06/14/2012 19:50 -0400

    Darrell Issa
    House Oversight Committee
    University of California
    White House



The normally-reserved Yves Smith asks whether Obama should be impeached over it.

Democratic Senator Wyden – the head of the committee which is supposed to oversee it – is so furious about the lack of access that he has introduced legislation to force disclosure.

Republican House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa is so upset by it that he has leaked a document on his website to show what’s going on.

What is everyone so furious about?

An international treaty being negotiated in secret which would not only crack down on Internet privacy much more than SOPA or ACTA, but would actually destroy the sovereignty of the U.S. and all other signatories.

It is called the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP).

Wyden is the chairman of the trade committee in the Senate … the committee which is supposed to have jurisdiction over the TPP. Wyden is also on the Senate Intelligence Committee, and so he and his staff have high security clearances and are normally able to look at classified documents.

And yet Wyden and his staff have been denied access to the TPP’s text.

This is similar to other recent incidences showing that we’ve gone from a nation of laws to a nation of powerful men making laws in secret.

For example,  in the summer 2007, Congressman Peter DeFazio – who is on the Homeland Security Committee (and so has proper security access to be briefed on so-called “Continuity of Government” issues) – inquired about continuity of government plans, and was refused access. Indeed, DeFazio told Congress that the entire Homeland Security Committee of the U.S. Congress has been denied access to the plans by the White House (video; or here is the transcript). The Homeland Security Committee has full clearance to view all information about COG plans. DeFazio concluded: “Maybe the people who think there’s a conspiracy out there are right”.

As University of California Berkeley Professor Emeritus Peter Dale Scott warned:

    If members of the Homeland Security Committee cannot enforce their right to read secret plans of the Executive Branch, then the systems of checks and balances established by the U.S. Constitution would seem to be failing.

     

    To put it another way, if the White House is successful in frustrating DeFazio, then Continuity of Government planning has arguably already superseded the Constitution as a higher authority.

Watch this interview from today explaining why TPP is so dangerous to America … and the rest of the world:

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y'all still think we are paranoid? Still think the NRA lying for money $$$$$?

Where did you get that information from

The UN IS THE BIGGEST HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATOR IN THE WORLD!!!!! Keep your powder dry.

This next election will determine our future boys. state and federal.You want a safe place...I'm on the big island. Get behind me boys.....cause this is as far as those liberal bastards are gonna go.

I really like Issa...

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