Was called by a recent student that went into Maui PD and the girl there told here after tomorrow they may stop taking permit applications. Anyone else hear this if so would it be legal to suspend access to 2nd amendment?

Was called by a recent student that went into Maui PD and the girl there told here after tomorrow they may stop taking permit applications. Anyone else hear this if so would it be legal to suspend access to 2nd amendment?

Of.course not, but hawaii does what it wants for decades.

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Was called by a recent student that went into Maui PD and the girl there told here after tomorrow they may stop taking permit applications. Anyone else hear this if so would it be legal to suspend access to 2nd amendment?

That would make for an interesting lawsuit

Of.course not, but hawaii does what it wants for decades.

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The PD is setting the county up for a rash of people nervous about self defense not following the permit process -- but acquiring a gun anyway. 

Nobody wants to be left without a chair when the music stops.

If they do, it may open up them (and the State) for a huge lawsuit for the deprivation of rights. Alan B can answer that best

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Side note: If anyone can answer as we are currently under a State of Emergency order from the Governor, is the entire permit process suspended so law abiding citizens can procure firearms re: HRS 134-7.2

If they do, it may open up them (and the State) for a huge lawsuit for the deprivation of rights. Alan B can answer that best
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Side note: If anyone can answer as we are currently under a State of Emergency order from the Governor, is the entire permit process suspended so law abiding citizens can procure firearms re: HRS 134-7.2

I'm still learning how these emergency powers work, but I believe the Governor determines which laws don't apply and what new measures he can implement under HRS 127A.  There's nothing in the HRS that specifically says permits have to be issued during an emergency.  There are prohibitions on the government seizing firearms or revoking/suspending your current permits and licenses during an emergency.

Pennsylvania just had a lawsuit on the constitutionality of shutting gun stores during an emergency.  There is a  2A case to be made especially if no permits are issued for a long period of time.  There are other rights that come into question too.  Can churches and stores that sell religious items be forced to close?  Can travelers be quarantined without showing signs of sickness?  Can people be forced to stay at home?

Some references to peruse:
https://www.civilbeat.org/2020/03/heres-what-the-governor-can-do-in-an-emergency/
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0127A/HRS_0127A-0013.htm
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0007_0002.htm

Pennsylvania just had a lawsuit on the constitutionality of shutting gun stores during an emergency. 

Gottlieb learned live on the air yesterday on Armed American Radio that the Pennsylvania case was "shot down" because the court ruled, "in essence", "a time of national crisis like this is no time to waste the court's time on things like this" [suspension of gun permits and sales].

I'm sure the courts would rule the same if the case was about a government executive branch edict stating that the courts will no longer operate and their orders will not be enforced, right?

I just saw a post that HPD (Oahu) is not issuing permits.

If true, 2A on Oahu is now suspended.  You can no longer 'legally' acquire a firearm for self defense.

I just saw a post that HPD (Oahu) is not issuing permits.

If true, 2A on Oahu is now suspended.  You can no longer 'legally' acquire a firearm for self defense.

Well, yeah, but it puts the criminals out of business too, right? So you won't need a gun for self-defense,  because you can only really lawfully use a gun against an assailant who is also armed with a gun and they won't be able to get any, right?

That actually "makes sense" to the majority of morons in Hawaii who call themselves "legislators"... or executive branch politicians.

If you didn't already have a home defense gun 2 months ago, I no feel sorry fo you.

Well, yeah, but it puts the criminals out of business too, right? So you won't need a gun for self-defense,  because you can only really lawfully use a gun against an assailant who is also armed with a gun and they won't be able to get any, right?

That actually "makes sense" to the majority of morons in Hawaii who call themselves "legislators"... or executive branch politicians.

"That actually "makes sense" to the majority of morons in Hawaii who call themselves "legislators"
You give Morons a bad name.
What we have here is Democrat party members.
Party comes first.