(How the) Coronavirus: The Economic 'Rescue' Is Shafting Us (Read 5957 times)

Jl808

(How the) Coronavirus: The Economic 'Rescue' Is Shafting Us
« on: April 01, 2020, 07:19:56 AM »


$1200 per person is chump change vs what the banks are getting on taxpayer expense.
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Kuleana

Re: (How the) Coronavirus: The Economic 'Rescue' Is Shafting Us
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2020, 07:34:22 AM »
The so-called multitrillion stimulus is the greatest money grab by the banks and ultrawealthy in US history.

The money supposedly going to the people will actually go from them directly to either the credit card companies, their landlords, banks, or utilities with very little, if there is anything left, for food.



 

jaynick

Re: (How the) Coronavirus: The Economic 'Rescue' Is Shafting Us
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2020, 08:15:17 AM »


$1200 per person is chump change vs what the banks are getting on taxpayer expense.
Just a few other things i saw listed in the package that doesnt make sense: 35m for the kennedy center for performing arts, 25m for house of reps, 9.5b for 'higher education'  315m for the state department diplomats, 13m for howard univesity, 300m for refugees
Seems like both parties added on a bunch of bullshit that wasnt getting funded as much as they wanted since they knew it would pass and most people wouldnt care as long as they got their 1200 bucks.

drck1000

Re: (How the) Coronavirus: The Economic 'Rescue' Is Shafting Us
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2020, 08:35:12 AM »
The so-called multitrillion stimulus is the greatest money grab by the banks and ultrawealthy in US history.

The money supposedly going to the people will actually go from them directly to either the credit card companies, their landlords, banks, or utilities with very little, if there is anything left, for food.
While I don't have a lot of info on the stimulus, that is generally the reasoning for my mixed feelings on this.  While I believe it does benefit many folks who are in dire straits given the amount of shutdowns, I think it was really giving a dehydrated person a sip of water and giving millions of gallons to those who would sell water.  I get that could help stimulate things from a bigger picture, I do think this helps the fat get fatter.  While maybe not the best or accurate analogy, my impression.

Just a few other things i saw listed in the package that doesnt make sense: 35m for the kennedy center for performing arts, 25m for house of reps, 9.5b for 'higher education'  315m for the state department diplomats, 13m for howard univesity, 300m for refugees
Seems like both parties added on a bunch of bullshit that wasnt getting funded as much as they wanted since they knew it would pass and most people wouldnt care as long as they got their 1200 bucks.
Yup.  Again, while I am sure the 1200/person will really help many, at what cost to rest of us long term. . .

RSN172

Re: (How the) Coronavirus: The Economic 'Rescue' Is Shafting Us
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2020, 08:54:59 AM »
A lot or most of the extras was added on by Pelosi.  I know the Kennedy Center grant and some others got deleted.  What did sneak thru was the $50m to implement a national ccw law.   Fo real kine, I was dreamin bout it jus las nite.
Happily living in Puna

eyeeatingfish

Re: (How the) Coronavirus: The Economic 'Rescue' Is Shafting Us
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2020, 08:09:34 PM »


$1200 per person is chump change vs what the banks are getting on taxpayer expense.

Don't the banks have all sorts of stipulations on money they receive though? My stimulus check could be used to buy more guns for all the government knows but IIRC the banks don't just get wads of money to use on whatever they want.

Inspector

Re: (How the) Coronavirus: The Economic 'Rescue' Is Shafting Us
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2020, 12:55:40 PM »
I’m not 100% all in on this stimulus. There is not enough restrictions on who gets it. For instance, I will use myself as the presented case. I quit working. I have income that is not affected by this situation. It is called Social Security and I have a pension. And so far my renters are able to pay their rents. So what will the stimulus do for me? How about those that are on welfare? Their income has not been affected by this situation. Why should they get stimulus checks? For those that have been affected I would say, give them a check. For those of us who are only being affected by all the inconveniences why do we deserve one? Also, what about those of you who are essential workers and have not lost a dime due to this? Do you deserve a stimulus check? I see that as a windfall for those not affected.

I won’t begrudge anyone their check. But I think the point of the stimulus is to help those that need it. What good is the stimulus check going to do for me? I guess I can buy a Colt Python now. I can donate it to a good cause. So I can help others and get a tax deduction. It would be better if the government did a better job of determining who needs the checks more. Otherwise, it looks more like buying votes and adding to the already corrupt process. See Pelosi.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

drck1000

Re: (How the) Coronavirus: The Economic 'Rescue' Is Shafting Us
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2020, 01:00:52 PM »
I’m not 100% all in on this stimulus. There is not enough restrictions on who gets it. For instance, I will use myself as the presented case. I quit working. I have income that is not affected by this situation. It is called Social Security and I have a pension. And so far my renters are able to pay their rents. So what will the stimulus do for me? How about those that are on welfare? Their income has not been affected by this situation. Why should they get stimulus checks? For those that have been affected I would say, give them a check. For those of us who are only being affected by all the inconveniences why do we deserve one? Also, what about those of you who are essential workers and have not lost a dime due to this? Do you deserve a stimulus check? I see that as a windfall for those not affected.

I won’t begrudge anyone their check. But I think the point of the stimulus is to help those that need it. What good is the stimulus check going to do for me? I guess I can buy a Colt Python now. I can donate it to a good cause. So I can help others and get a tax deduction. It would be better if the government did a better job of determining who needs the checks more. Otherwise, it looks more like buying votes and adding to the already corrupt process. See Pelosi.
You can buy me a Python  ;D

Inspector

Re: (How the) Coronavirus: The Economic 'Rescue' Is Shafting Us
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2020, 01:16:07 PM »
You can buy me a Python  ;D
Do you qualify as a charitable organization?  :rofl:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

drck1000

Re: (How the) Coronavirus: The Economic 'Rescue' Is Shafting Us
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2020, 01:48:10 PM »
Do you qualify as a charitable organization?  :rofl:
I've treated senile senior citizens to dinner.  Does that count?  :hmm:

 :rofl:

Rocky

Re: (How the) Coronavirus: The Economic 'Rescue' Is Shafting Us
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2020, 09:31:11 AM »
I've treated senile senior citizens to dinner.  Does that count?  :hmm:

 :rofl:
I don't remember you buying me dinner.  ???
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drck1000

Re: (How the) Coronavirus: The Economic 'Rescue' Is Shafting Us
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2020, 10:43:23 AM »
I don't remember you buying me dinner.  ???
You don't remember?  Senility advancing. . .

 :rofl:

groveler

Re: (How the) Coronavirus: The Economic 'Rescue' Is Shafting Us
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2020, 11:24:06 AM »
Realistically this whole thing is a fabrication to steal more freedoms from us all.
Create a crisis and then the Democrats will pull down their pants, bend over
and take anything, just to stay "alive".  It seems like Republicans are now
doing the same.  Our grandkids will be the ones to suffer.
This ship is sinking from lack of maintenance and due diligence.
I'm an older guy. I have to enroll in Medicare this year.
I'm absolutely not afraid of this flu.
What the media is doing to
our nation, state, and county is criminal.
Destroyed a tourist industry out of fear of something
not even adequately quantified.
Any educated Computer guy will tell
you that ALL models are wrong!
We are taught, rather than give bad data, don't give any data.
It gets people's attention.  It is often deadly to make decisions
based on bad data.
My silver lining; Democrats in Hawaii will survive, just to starve,
slowly in their dogmatic filth.






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Inspector

Re: (How the) Coronavirus: The Economic 'Rescue' Is Shafting Us
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2020, 11:58:24 AM »
I've treated senile senior citizens to dinner.  Does that count?  :hmm:

 :rofl:
So when are you going to treat me? 🤪
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Rocky

Re: (How the) Coronavirus: The Economic 'Rescue' Is Shafting Us
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2020, 12:04:13 PM »
Quote from: drck1000 on April 03, 2020, 01:48:10 PM
    I've treated senile senior citizens to dinner.  Does that count?  :hmm:
     :rofl:
So when are you going to treat me? 🤪

He did already, don't you remember ?   :rofl:
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

Flapp_Jackson

Re: (How the) Coronavirus: The Economic 'Rescue' Is Shafting Us
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2020, 12:13:59 PM »
So when are you going to treat me? 🤪

Look through your credit card receipts.  I'm sure you wound up paying for the entire meal!   :shaka:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: (How the) Coronavirus: The Economic 'Rescue' Is Shafting Us
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2020, 12:43:09 PM »
So when are you going to treat me? 🤪
When "Hotel Inspector" is available. . . :hmm:

Inspector

Re: (How the) Coronavirus: The Economic 'Rescue' Is Shafting Us
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2020, 04:01:09 AM »
When "Hotel Inspector" is available. . . :hmm:
Isn’t that an Eagle’s song? “Welcome to the Hotel Inspector...”
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

drck1000

Re: (How the) Coronavirus: The Economic 'Rescue' Is Shafting Us
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2020, 08:16:09 AM »
Isn’t that an Eagle’s song? “Welcome to the Hotel Inspector...”
;D

Yeah, can be.  Hopefully there's "Plenty of room at the Hotel California" when I come to AZ to visit, and I can yell "Please bring me my wine".  8)

 :rofl:

groveler

Re: (How the) Coronavirus: The Economic 'Rescue' Is Shafting Us
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2020, 09:54:28 AM »
;D

Yeah, can be.  Hopefully there's "Plenty of room at the Hotel California" when I come to AZ to visit, and I can yell "Please bring me my wine".  8)

 :rofl:
"you can check in any time you, like but you can never leave".
I'd be careful there in AZ.