This appears to be one of the most recent instances where the national guard is being used in a law enforcement capacity during the current pandemic.

https://www.wlky.com/article/national-guard-joining-police-officers-outside-louisville-hospitals/31942939

I am not quite sure why medical facilities need extra armed protection?

Whatever the case, the genie is making its way out of the bottle.

Keep an eye out!

This appears to be one of the most recent instances where the national guard is being used in a law enforcement capacity during the current pandemic.

https://www.wlky.com/article/national-guard-joining-police-officers-outside-louisville-hospitals/31942939

I am not quite sure why medical facilities need extra armed protection?

Whatever the case, the genie is making its way out of the bottle.

Keep an eye out!

Desperate folks wanting to get medical supplies. . .

Desperate folks wanting to get medical supplies. . .

Not just supplies, but testing, treatment, OTC meds they can't find in stores, etc.

Some hospitals are overwhelmed, and people are waiting for hours and hours. That can induce panic in some, and trying to bully the staff into seeing them next would be common, I think.

Crowd control.

Not just supplies, but testing, treatment, OTC meds they can't find in stores, etc.

Some hospitals are overwhelmed, and people are waiting for hours and hours. That can induce panic in some, and trying to bully the staff into seeing them next would be common, I think.

Crowd control.

I agree.  Was just pointing out one that I thought was obvious in efforts to expand the view of certain (  ) people on this board.

My mind keeps going back to movies like Outbreak and I am Legend.  Yeah, I don't take those as projecting what will happen.  I tend be quite rational, or at least I try to be. . .

I agree.  Was just pointing out one that I thought was obvious in efforts to expand the view of certain (  ) people on this board.

My mind keeps going back to movies like Outbreak and I am Legend.  Yeah, I don't take those as projecting what will happen.  I tend be quite rational, or at least I try to be. . .

I like to delve into those kinds of movies to imagine "what if?" and "what would I do?"

I try not to be too analytical about whether or not the situation is possible.  Most of those scenarios (sans Zombies) have actually manifested throughout history in some form or another.  We'd be arrogant to believe that humans, while being smart enough to conquer polio and measles, are not also evil or stupid enough to create the next deadly disease for which we have no immunities or treatment.

We also don't know what deadly organisms or compounds exist on asteroids or other planets, just waiting for a chance to somehow be transported to Earth.  Imagine a probe from Earth carrying sample from Mars containing a "bug" that wasn't destroyed upon reentry into our atmosphere.  Andromeda?   

So, probable?  Not really.  Possible?  Absolutely!

Not just supplies, but testing, treatment, OTC meds they can't find in stores, etc.

Some hospitals are overwhelmed, and people are waiting for hours and hours. That can induce panic in some, and trying to bully the staff into seeing them next would be common, I think.

Crowd control.

Possibility, why yes.

If that were true, however, such panic would already been seen in the devastated ravaged New York.

I like to delve into those kinds of movies to imagine "what if?" and "what would I do?"

I try not to be too analytical about whether or not the situation is possible.  Most of those scenarios (sans Zombies) have actually manifested throughout history in some form or another.  We'd be arrogant to believe that humans, while being smart enough to conquer polio and measles, are not also evil or stupid enough to create the next deadly disease for which we have no immunities or treatment.

We also don't know what deadly organisms or compounds exist on asteroids or other planets, just waiting for a chance to somehow be transported to Earth.  Imagine a probe from Earth carrying sample from Mars containing a "bug" that wasn't destroyed upon reentry into our atmosphere.  Andromeda?   

So, probable?  Not really.  Possible?  Absolutely!

Now movies like Species and another where the astronaut brought back something has been on.  Showtime I think.

I also find my mind going down the "what if" path.  I def can see validity in movies like that (World War Z is another) and like you said, based somewhat on history.  One of those where while super sensationalized, probably not THAT far from realistic.  I've also read a bunch of TWOTWAKI type books.  Mostly about EMP ones.

Possibility, why yes.

If that were true, however, such panic would already been seen in the devastated ravaged New York.

Who says it hasn't been seen in NY?

Google "hospital security concerns".  All the results are from 2019 and before.  Looks like any news of increased security measures of any type are being censored.

Makes sense.  They don't want people concerned about security to avoid necessary trips to the hospital.

I've seen people yelling at ER staff when they had to wait as 3 higher priority cases that came in after were seen first.  That was in normal times.

You can't convince me that people who need help are just going to stand quietly in line and hope the overwhelmed staff gets around to them in time.

Now movies like Species and another where the astronaut brought back something has been on.  Showtime I think.

I also find my mind going down the "what if" path.  I def can see validity in movies like that (World War Z is another) and like you said, based somewhat on history.  One of those where while super sensationalized, probably not THAT far from realistic.  I've also read a bunch of TWOTWAKI type books.  Mostly about EMP ones.

Armageddon is one of my favorites.  Great cast and great lines.  "I wanna name [the asteroid I discovered] Dottie after my wife. She's a vicious life-sucking bitch from which there is no escape."   

I also like The Core for some reason.

Armageddon is one of my favorites.  Great cast and great lines.  "I wanna name [the asteroid I discovered] Dottie after my wife. She's a vicious life-sucking bitch from which there is no escape."   

I also like The Core for some reason.

I'm happily married almost 43 years now, but I laughed at that line in Armageddon!
My mother had 4 husbands.
 Back to subject National guard.
The military is designed to be Self sufficient and effective in a place where there is no regular
support systems as we are used to.
Cops have SWAT teams, but they don't have a very long logistics support line.
Guard and military can go anywhere in the world and execute the mission.
Until activated the Guard is under the command of the state Governor,
which makes them legal on American soil.  It also limits what they can do.
SWAT kills with impunity, Guard has the Kent state history and they won't
repeat that.

I'm happily married almost 43 years now, but I laughed at that line in Armageddon!
My mother had 4 husbands.
 Back to subject National guard.
The military is designed to be Self sufficient and effective in a place where there is no regular
support systems as we are used to.
Cops have SWAT teams, but they don't have a very long logistics support line.
Guard and military can go anywhere in the world and execute the mission.
Until activated the Guard is under the command of the state Governor,
which makes them legal on American soil.  It also limits what they can do.
SWAT kills with impunity, Guard has the Kent state history and they won't
repeat that.

The NG was called out many times in the Civil Rights era, even though most times it only made the local news.  The few big events, like Kent State, the integration of Central High School in Arkansas and Univ or Alabama, made the national news.

Cops in the 60s and 70s outside the largest cities were not trained, manned or equipped for crowd control.  Calling out the NG was often the only option when a town needed to keep the peace in a volatile situation.  Most of the time, a show of force was all that was required.

Who says it hasn't been seen in NY?

Google "hospital security concerns".  All the results are from 2019 and before.  Looks like any news of increased security measures of any type are being censored.

Makes sense.  They don't want people concerned about security to avoid necessary trips to the hospital.

I've seen people yelling at ER staff when they had to wait as 3 higher priority cases that came in after were seen first.  That was in normal times.

You can't convince me that people who need help are just going to stand quietly in line and hope the overwhelmed staff gets around to them in time.

There you go again, reframing my argument; no one is making the point that riots or social unrest can't erupt in light of the current pandemic.

The point I am trying to make is that the NG has not been given law enforcement duties in New York, as far as I seen.  The more they are, like I presented in my original post, civilian gun owners should be vigilant due the vicious gun legislation that still swirling in local and national congressional circles.

Child trafficking victims...medical ships on each coast....#tinfoil

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