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HPD Registration
« on: June 25, 2012, 08:27:51 AM »
I hear its been a zoo down there since last monday. 2-3 hour waits!!!???
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Re: HPD Registration
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2012, 08:34:40 AM »
There is a new form to read and sign.

It's from the "U.S. Department of Justice BATFE"

It essentially has you sign and acknowledge that anyone who uses Marijuana, whether doctor prescribed or not is not allowed to own firearms.

Maybe that's the reason for the extra long processing times.
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Re: HPD Registration
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2012, 08:45:36 AM »
Yeah keoni is right, there's a new form. Other then that shouldn't be too much of a long wait. The day we were there was fast. The part that took the longest was the guy trying to read my chicken scratch handwriting, and I didn't even have to Pay.

dubya

Re: HPD Registration
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2012, 02:13:24 PM »
Was just down there this morning for registration... in at 11:36 AM, out at 11:55 AM.

Also noticed that First Time Registration Fee is $16.50.  Wasn't it $19.75 or something?

Not that I'm complaining, but last I heard, Honolulu C&C was in desperate need of new sources of revenue!

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HPD Registration
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2012, 02:16:15 PM »
Was just down there this morning for registration... in at 11:36 AM, out at 11:55 AM.

Also noticed that First Time Registration Fee is $16.50.  Wasn't it $19.75 or something?

Not that I'm complaining, but last I heard, Honolulu C&C was in desperate need of new sources of revenue!

dubya

It's not revenue for them. By law, they can only charge whatever the FBI charges for fingerprinting.
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Re: HPD Registration
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2012, 02:24:35 PM »
It's not revenue for them. By law, they can only charge whatever the FBI charges for fingerprinting.

gotcha... thanks for the clarification!

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Re: HPD Registration
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2012, 02:58:32 PM »
Haven't seen it here on Maui.  Is this just when registering?  Filed out a handgun PTA last Monday, never saw the form.

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Re: HPD Registration
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2012, 07:01:34 PM »
I registered my handgun this past friday, I only waited for about 20mins minus the line.

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Re: HPD Registration
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2012, 06:41:37 PM »
Was registering on Fri.  Picked up permit only 2 people in line.  Came back to register pistol, 1 person in line and no one after that for about 15 mins.

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Re: HPD Registration
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2012, 08:42:22 PM »
MPD Records department normally doesn't have a long wait. Lucky if it takes all but 20 minutes from start to finish. This is registering firearms or applying for a permit.

ekekeu

Re: HPD Registration
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2012, 10:26:42 PM »
Thanks to that guy in firearms for taking those firearms

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Re: HPD Registration
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2012, 06:52:03 AM »
^^^^^


http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/18900159/hpd-officer-accused-of-stealing-firearms-resigns-from-the-force


HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) -

A Honolulu Police Department officer accused of taking firearms turned in by citizens to be destroyed has resigned after HPD began investigating him earlier this spring.

HPD's records and identification division, right outside the entrance to the police department's Beretania Street headquarters, houses the firearms unit where people register their guns. Members of the public also turn in as many as 50 guns a year to the police department for destruction.

HPD began criminal and administrative investigations in March, after allegations surfaced of "firearms improprieties" by an officer assigned to the firearms unit, according to an HPD spokeswoman.  The spokeswoman declined to identify the officer in this or any other personnel case.

Sources said officer Francisco Lutu -- a nine-year HPD veteran assigned to the firearms unit -- was accused of taking guns that were supposed to be destroyed and trying to sell them on the side. Lutu has not been charged with any crime so far.

Sources said when Lutu was working at the firearms desk and somebody came in to turn in a weapon, he would tell his bosses he needed to go on a lunch break and then he would meet the person outside the office and try to give the person some cash so that they would give him the gun instead of turning it over to HPD to be destroyed.

HPD said Lutu's police powers were restricted in March, when his badge and gun were taken away during the investigation.  An HPD spokeswoman confirmed he resigned from the force in May.

HPD finished its probe and turned the results over to the prosecutor's office last week, according to a spokesman for City Prosecutor Keith Kaneshiro.

The officer could face a number of charges including theft, forgery, tampering with a government record and firearms registration violations, the prosecutor's spokesman said.

It's unclear how many guns the officer accused of stealing from the department and it is unknown whether he was able to actually sell any of them or whether he just wanted some of the guns for his personal collection

Kingkeoni

Re: HPD Registration
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2012, 08:21:03 AM »
"As many as 50 firearms are turned in each year for destruction"

 :wtf:

Don't they know that I run a legal firearms disposal for cash facility?

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Re: HPD Registration
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2012, 09:44:06 AM »
Hmmm, the way the article is worded I don't see why it would be a problem that the officer would buy the guns as long as he registered it after the sale. I actually bought a Ruger 10/22 for $50 off a guy who was waiting in line to turn it in to be destroyed. I then went to the counter and registered both rifles. No crime there, I hope. Unless HPD has a policy which restricts officers from buying guns while on-duty???  IDK

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Re: HPD Registration
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2012, 12:16:40 PM »
Seems like there's alot more to this story than being reported.
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Re: HPD Registration
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2012, 02:42:25 PM »
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Hmmm, the way the article is worded I don't see why it would be a problem that the officer would buy the guns as long as he registered it after the sale. I actually bought a Ruger 10/22 for $50 off a guy who was waiting in line to turn it in to be destroyed. I then went to the counter and registered both rifles. No crime there, I hope. Unless HPD has a policy which restricts officers from buying guns while on-duty???  IDK
Sounds to me like since HPD didn't "like" the idea of someone rescuing guns-to-be-destroyed, they decided to throw every possible charge out there to encourage his leaving.

Any prosecutor's office has the power, beyond possible jail terms and fines, to bankrupt a person just by making them defend themselves against trumped-up charges.

I'm just a mainland jerk from Colorado, but that's how it sounds to me.

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Re: HPD Registration
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2012, 05:05:54 PM »
I don't know how much you can believe but KHNL reported that he was selling them on the "black market". 

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Re: HPD Registration
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2012, 09:43:51 AM »
^
I suspect most journalists think that any face-to-face (FTF) transaction is "the black market," just as any rifle is an "AK-47" or "assault rifle," any shotgun is "sawed-off," and any handgun is wun uh them evil Glocks.

Gotta keep the sheeple all a-skeered of them there gunses, after all.

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HPD Registration
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2012, 10:40:57 AM »
WHOA! It's 10:00 now, but when I parked my car and went up, there was NO ONE in line. I let the officers in on my surprise and elation, and he chuckled saying that this is the first and only time I'd see that. Hahaha
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Re: HPD Registration
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2012, 06:14:07 PM »
^
I suspect most journalists think that any face-to-face (FTF) transaction is "the black market," just as any rifle is an "AK-47" or "assault rifle," any shotgun is "sawed-off," and any handgun is wun uh them evil Glocks.

Gotta keep the sheeple all a-skeered of them there gunses, after all.

Terry, 230RN
I was just about to post something to this effect, although it wouldn't have been as entertaining.  But you are right on the money, as usual.  I'm pretty sure KHNL would have a fit if they ever bothered to register on this site and see the burgeoning black market trade we've got going in the classifieds section.  [Dear Federal Watchdogs: I do not know of any illegal activity which has occurred, is occurring, or will occur in the future through the classifieds section of this site.  My remark was intended as satire, and should not be construed as an admission of criminal guilt.  Have a wonderful day, you oxygen thief!]
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