first pistol purchase (Read 9083 times)

ethanhunter34

first pistol purchase
« on: May 27, 2020, 06:10:03 PM »
Aloha,

looking to purchase my first pistol. G17 or G19 gen5 mos , Vp9 optic ready, Cz P10-C , Sig p320 and Canik tp9 sc elite.

 Right now  G17 gen5 mos is on the top of my list since G19 and Cz p10 C is on backorder and not sure when they will be back in stock.  How are the Sig p320 and Canik tp9 sc elite?  I heard they are good as well.  How is the recoil compared to the G17?  I’m thinking they are a little more snappy?    What favorite pistol do you guys have?🤙

« Last Edit: May 27, 2020, 06:39:41 PM by ethanhunter34 »

stangzilla

Re: first pistol purchase
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2020, 07:12:44 PM »
Welcome  :shaka:
I dont have any of those pistols you want but I did shoot my friends g19 and my other friends vp9. Between those 2, I like the vp9 better. Glocks are good too. Reliable and a lot of upgrade parts for them. Either one is a good choice.
Get your long gun permit if you haven't already.

aieahound

Re: first pistol purchase
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2020, 07:22:37 PM »
I shoot a Glock 17.
(Now my daughters favorite and I picked up an fns9. More 1911 grip angle)
Grip angle on Glock takes getting used to as shooter needs to push the front sight down.
Good for recoil recovery though.
Just my opinion.
« Last Edit: May 27, 2020, 07:27:55 PM by aieahound »

spicynoodle_1

Re: first pistol purchase
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2020, 07:33:07 PM »
Definitely not a Glock snob, although my favorite pistol are my Glock 19's.  My first pistol was a Glock 17, but since then, I have tried and owned many others.  VP9 to me has the most comfortable grip that I've felt.  I have small hands and it feels great.  There are a lot of manufacturers making customizable back straps now to fit every size hand.  The Sig P320 offers different size lowers, small, medium, and large!  I have one with a small and it's the only pistol I own that allows me to reach the mag release without shifting my grip.  I used to have an older Gen 1 Canik TP9.  Thought it was great, reminded me of a P99.  Never tried the new ones.  Heard and read good things though.  You'll just have to get a hold of one of all the pistols you listed and try them out.  Find which one you like.  Most modern pistols are more and more reliable nowadays.  It pretty much comes down to which one looks the coolest...

ethanhunter34

Re: first pistol purchase
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2020, 08:13:08 PM »
Thanks guys for your reply’s!   My appointment for my permit is not till July 9th which was the earliest they had so I do have some time.  They do have the Vp9 optic ready in stock which is $729 and the G17 gen5 mos $665.   I know the mags are cheaper for the G17 vs the vp9 which is around $35-$40.  In Hawaii you are only allowed 10 round mags if I’m correct?   

How is the G19 compared to the G17 ?  I do like the G19 but it’s back ordered and was told it might be months till they are back in stock so If I get a Glock it will be a 17.

aaronc5362

Re: first pistol purchase
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2020, 08:31:31 PM »
Yea you are correct. 10 round mags for non LEO/military.

If your dead set on a g19. Order it yourself via gunbroker, buds, etc. And ship to an ffl. It may be even cheaper that way. Unless you meet the blue line for glocks.

Blue line is for government employees. Some are ffdos, fams, firefighters, i think ems too (you gotta ask that, not really sure)

I know sec hawaii has blue line for glocks and sig sauer. As well as primesports (only sig atm though.)

Personally, i like g19s. Ive had all 3, g17, g19, g26. All are gen 4s. I couldnt hit shit with a g17. No bs, idk why. It felt weird to me. I still love my g19 and g26. Trijicon hd sights. So i sold my g17 and been happier. I assume its the same grip angle on paper, but in reality it feels completely different to me. Thats just my speculation. Ive used my friends gen 3 g19 and his gen 3 g17 rtf. Same thing, i could peg the 50 yard target adequately or good enough with his g19 but the g17 i hit the berm all day long 🤪. Lol. He runs both trijicon sights too.

Since you have time like you said. Wait for 4th of july sales. I can almost guarantee youll see good deals on the web. Prob most shops too, now that everything is somewhat going back to normal. I have a feeling there will be alot of sales cause they need to move products to make up for losses. Gucci just had a sale on smaller items which is pretty nuts cause ive never seen them have a sale ever.

spicynoodle_1

Re: first pistol purchase
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2020, 09:17:32 PM »
I know the mags are cheaper for the G17 vs the vp9 which is around $35-$40.

And Magpul makes Glock mags now, too! Even cheaper!

drck1000

Re: first pistol purchase
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2020, 09:38:27 AM »
Aloha,

looking to purchase my first pistol. G17 or G19 gen5 mos , Vp9 optic ready, Cz P10-C , Sig p320 and Canik tp9 sc elite.

 Right now  G17 gen5 mos is on the top of my list since G19 and Cz p10 C is on backorder and not sure when they will be back in stock.  How are the Sig p320 and Canik tp9 sc elite?  I heard they are good as well.  How is the recoil compared to the G17?  I’m thinking they are a little more snappy?    What favorite pistol do you guys have?🤙
Seems like you're set on a RDS pistol.  For those, I have experience with all of your list except for the VP9 and Canik.  For me, one consideration for me is what "support" is needed, like holsters and mags.  Since I had a bunch of that stuff for Glocks, going to RDS Glocks is easy for me.  Beyond that, assuming approximately equal size frames, I don't notice any being more snappy than the others, at least enough to drive a decision.  The P320 has a big range of frames and slides.  I really want an X-5, but the frame weighting and 5" slide will make it a softer shooter than say a 19. 

Overall, I would say you'd be well served with any of those you listed.  Think Canik probably has the least "support" stuff, but I've heard good things about them. 

My favorite?  My Gucci 19 with RDS.   ;D

drck1000

Re: first pistol purchase
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2020, 09:39:49 AM »
I shoot a Glock 17.
(Now my daughters favorite and I picked up an fns9. More 1911 grip angle)
Grip angle on Glock takes getting used to as shooter needs to push the front sight down.
Good for recoil recovery though.
Just my opinion.
Father-Daughter challenge range day!   ;D

I got $20 on your daughter.  :rofl:

changemyoil66

Re: first pistol purchase
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2020, 09:55:54 AM »
I have a VP9 and 1 reason why I choose that over a Glock was at the time, many replaced the trigger of the glock.  So that's another $150 being spent.  Which made it the same price of a VP9.  And for the VP9, you don't have to do anything to the trigger.

In the end, buy what you want and looks cool to you.  Once you get enough triggger time, you will learn what you need and how your body responds to each handgun.

I shot a P320 and didn't like the way the handgun was balanced.  It felt front heavy.

In the end, it's the indian and not the arrow for accuracy.

ethanhunter34

Re: first pistol purchase
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2020, 01:51:46 PM »
What other stores sells the Vp9 optic ready?  I know HGS has it in stock and SEC is waiting on shipment.

aieahound

Re: first pistol purchase
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2020, 02:04:11 PM »
Father-Daughter challenge range day!   ;D
I got $20 on your daughter.  :rofl:

Game on !
Shit, even she’ll bet against me.
(And win)
I’m gonna need Rocky. :rofl:

I have a VP9 and 1 reason why I choose that over a Glock was at the time, many replaced the trigger of the glock.  So that's another $150 being spent.  Which made it the same price of a VP9.  And for the VP9, you don't have to do anything to the trigger.

In the end, buy what you want and looks cool you.
In the end, it's the indian and not the arrow for accuracy.

Words of wisdom right there.
But it only costs about $50 bucks total to change the trigger connector to about 4lbs and get the extended slide release on the Glock.
I changed mine. Shitload of take-up though but nice crisp break.
Never shot a VP9 but plenty for sale in the classifieds. At least there were.
Don’t know about optics ready.
VP9 was the cats meow when it came out.



« Last Edit: May 28, 2020, 02:13:39 PM by aieahound »

TastesLikeMetal

Re: first pistol purchase
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2020, 08:01:21 PM »
I love Glocks, have 3 of them, if I was starting over today having no Magazines/Parts/misc stuff related to them I'd be open to buy something else just because it's the least comfortable to grip.  I'd probably still get a Glock because of it's reliability track record over decades but the others on your list are developing positive reps of their own.  Plus Glocks were in Counter-Strike so that makes them awesome.

TastesLikeMetal

Re: first pistol purchase
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2020, 08:08:15 PM »
How is the G19 compared to the G17 ?
*WARNING* I bought a Gen3 Glock 34 (long slide 17 in case you didn't know) and was happy with it so decided to buy a Gen3 G19 and found out the finger groove spacing is different from the Trigger guard to the first groove.  The first groove would sit right in the middle of my middle finger and I hated it so I ground off all the Grooves on it.  It looks like they changed it of Gen4 and they removed them on Gen 5 but once again if you can grip them first I'd recommend it.

spicynoodle_1

Re: first pistol purchase
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2020, 08:54:44 PM »
I polished all the contacting metal parts of the trigger (like where the trigger bar contacts the firing pin safety, the connector, the bottom of the firing pin) and got a real nice glassy take up and crisp break. Got rid of the gritty pull and mushiness.

ethanhunter34

Re: first pistol purchase
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2020, 08:31:04 AM »
Is it worth putting a apex trigger on the glocks? It runs around $125 for the gen 5.

TastesLikeMetal

Re: first pistol purchase
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2020, 11:00:20 AM »
Is it worth putting a apex trigger on the glocks? It runs around $125 for the gen 5.
Why not just shoot it stock first?

drck1000

Re: first pistol purchase
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2020, 11:24:13 AM »
Why not just shoot it stock first?
Agree  :thumbsup:

drck1000

Re: first pistol purchase
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2020, 11:30:39 AM »
Is it worth putting a apex trigger on the glocks? It runs around $125 for the gen 5.
I say shoot the gun lots and spend more on ammo. At least at first.

Personally, I haven’t gone with aftermarket FCG for my Glocks. I have only tried a different disconnector in my competition 34. I would say most of the folks I know who shoot don’t have aftermarket FCGs. Many do their “self-smith” polishing and stuff.

I know some who change all sorts of things right off the bat. Unfortunately, have seen many of those guns malfunctioning and then lots of variables to narrow down the cause.

ethanhunter34

Re: first pistol purchase
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2020, 11:41:27 AM »
I definitely will but just curious since most people tend to change it..