George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police (Read 51216 times)

spicynoodle_1

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #100 on: May 31, 2020, 05:32:37 PM »
How do you know all cops are good?

If the murderer Chauvin had a number of reprimands and yet was not kicked out of his precinct, how many more Chauvins are there that have not been kicked out of their own respective outfits and are just waiting to do the same?

What guarantees are there that anybody else won't be the next Floyd?




Maybe if police departments begin to rat out bad cops and make such instances nationally known would be a start to regain the public trust.




No, I would not like that, but Hawaiians are already stereotyped that way locally.

That's the problem with you. No one said all cops were good, as we've just seen. And you hurt your own argument by saying that 'we dont know if'... that's just the point. Your crucifying all for the actions of a few...

Flapp_Jackson

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #101 on: May 31, 2020, 05:40:54 PM »
No, I would not like that, but Hawaiians are already stereotyped that way locally.

So, why do you deserve the benefit of the doubt, but Cops don't?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #102 on: May 31, 2020, 05:44:21 PM »
Just because thousands are following suit doesnt make your argument strong, it needs justification. Are you serious?!?!?!? Their reason for burning other peoples property and harming others physically when they try to protect themselves and their property is completely unrelated to these riot victims! None of them had anything to do with George Floyd! Your justification for your argument is 'thousands are doing it'... sad

I am talking about the peaceful protestors, not the selfish and opportunist looters.




The good officers that I speak of do not condone the acts that these officers in question have committed. Some openly on several social media outlets speak out openly. And yes, the ones I know personal would speak their mind if they saw or experienced something immoral. No snitching ah! I think you watching too many movies!

Really?  How do you know all the cops in your acquaintance are good cops?

Have you seen their personnel file or simply took their word for it.

Moreover, could you tell me who was/were the good cop(s) that snitched on Hawaiian disgrace, former HPD Chief Kealoha before the Feds got involved?




As for their service being favors. It would be you to talk about something virtuous in a negative way. I assume you would not be willing to put your life on the line every day for people you dont know. You seem like the cowardly keyboard king that puffs chest in cyber world. But these men and women on the other hand are doing that every day. And dont ask anything in return from the people they serve. Not a favor at all. Through their eyes its viewed as duty. They do it willingly...

The work of law enforcement is a thankless job that very few people in society can apply.

I, for one, do not make any claim that I could be a good cop for the sheer reasons that I could not make that high level of commitment and that there are many bad cops already there and would not be able to work in such contradiction.

Kuleana

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #103 on: May 31, 2020, 05:46:00 PM »
So, why do you deserve the benefit of the doubt, but Cops don't?

Because I am a private individual that is not issued a firearm or allotted the public trust.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #104 on: May 31, 2020, 05:54:53 PM »
Because I am a private individual that is not issued a firearm or allotted the public trust.

Cops are also private individuals who happen to wear a badge and do a necessary, dangerous and important job.

You want to argue Cops are not allowed to be human, and therefore they are not afforded the same understanding, consideration and support we give to every other individual on the planet.

That's bullshit.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

spicynoodle_1

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #105 on: May 31, 2020, 06:00:35 PM »
I am talking about the peaceful protestors, not the selfish and opportunist looters.




Really?  How do you know all the cops in your acquaintance are good cops?

Have you seen their personnel file or simply took their word for it.

Moreover, could you tell me who was/were the good cop(s) that snitched on Hawaiian disgrace, former HPD Chief Kealoha before the Feds got involved?




The work of law enforcement is a thankless job that very few people in society can apply.

I, for one, do not make any claim that I could be a good cop for the sheer reasons that I could not make that high level of commitment and that there are many bad cops already there and would not be able to work in such contradiction.

Nice try buddy. You were talking about the looters. I am not surprised with the renege. That was a losing argument...

Because like most people think, you're good until you prove otherwise. And to live a life of thinking everyone is bad to begin with is a sad life...

And as for the last point you make, you're probably right that you cant rise to such a call of duty, because your views are rooted on unjustified prejudice. Exactly the opposite of what justice is. So thank you for not becoming a crooked cop...

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Kuleana

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #106 on: May 31, 2020, 06:10:46 PM »
You want to argue Cops are not allowed to be human, and therefore they are not afforded the same understanding, consideration and support we give to every other individual on the planet.

Perfect example, disgraced Hawaiian former HPD Chief Kealoha was convicted of a crime and sentenced, but should be chastised far more than others who are guilty of the same crime.

Why?

Because he took an oath to uphold the law and held a position of the highest trust in a society; his betrayal not only forever destroyed his reputation as a police officer, but cast a further shadow upon HPD itself.  If the Chief of Police was capable of doing something so stupid, one could only imagine what other evils lurk among the officers in HPD.

changemyoil66

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #107 on: May 31, 2020, 06:17:28 PM »
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Kuleana

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #108 on: May 31, 2020, 06:19:02 PM »
And as for the last point you make, you're probably right that you cant rise to such a call of duty, because your views are rooted on unjustified prejudice. Exactly the opposite of what justice is.

Your opinion.      :shaka:




So thank you for not becoming a crooked cop...

Your welcome.     :thumbsup:

RSN172

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #109 on: May 31, 2020, 06:20:00 PM »
Perfect example, disgraced Hawaiian former HPD Chief Kealoha was convicted of a crime and sentenced,

IIRC, he was convicted, but not sentenced yet.  This CV19 thingy has delayed his sentencing.  If he has been sentenced, please let me know what he got.
Happily living in Puna

Kuleana

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #110 on: May 31, 2020, 06:34:40 PM »
IIRC, he was convicted, but not sentenced yet.  This CV19 thingy has delayed his sentencing.  If he has been sentenced, please let me know what he got.

I don't have any new info, but am looking forward to see how many years he will get.

People who are given, but later break the public trust should all suffer the worst possible punishments than private individuals for the same crimes.  That is the only way to ensure law enforcement never ever do anything above the law.
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spicynoodle_1

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #111 on: May 31, 2020, 07:12:36 PM »
Your opinion.      :shaka:

The part about your views being rooted in unjustified prejudice is documented fact.



Your welcome.     :thumbsup:

Your and You're... If you learn one thing today....

And you're welcome...

Kuleana

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #112 on: May 31, 2020, 07:29:44 PM »
The part about your views being rooted in unjustified prejudice is documented fact.

Wow, I did not know my beliefs were on trial.

Who was the judge and jury again?

spicynoodle_1

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #113 on: May 31, 2020, 08:08:42 PM »
Wow, I did not know my beliefs were on trial.

Who was the judge and jury again?

Dude, everyone dropped the mic on you already... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Kuleana

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #114 on: May 31, 2020, 08:29:51 PM »
Dude, everyone dropped the mic on you already... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

You laugh at me because I am different, but I laugh at you and all the people you think you are speaking on their behalf because you are all the same.    :rofl:    :rofl:    :rofl:

 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #115 on: May 31, 2020, 09:50:49 PM »
You laugh at me because I am different, but I laugh at you and all the people you think you are speaking on their behalf because you are all the same.    :rofl:    :rofl:    :rofl:

I love how you continue to pretend you can read people's minds.

That's why I laugh at you, by the way.   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #116 on: June 01, 2020, 02:12:10 AM »
The problem is Israel. We have Mossad and the IDF training everyone’s local PD to be an occupying force and view the population as the enemy, pretty much turning us all into Palestinians. It happened because they had guys like Epstein blackmailing our kiddy diddling Congress creatures into excessive military welfare programs including training our cops how to turn our communities into giant outdoor prisons. No one is allowed to criticize the bad deal we are getting because they label you antisemitic. Unfortunately the police and their coddlers who believe this kind of behavior is acceptable are actively undermining social stability and in the process making themselves and their fellow officers into targets for retaliation. You can either be a cop or an infantryman, but not both at the same time.
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

Kuleana

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #117 on: June 01, 2020, 09:46:00 AM »
I love how you continue to pretend you can read people's minds.

Wow, we got another mind reader.




That's why I laugh at you, by the way.   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I am so amused that we can laugh at each other.   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:

Flapp_Jackson

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #118 on: June 01, 2020, 11:28:23 AM »
The problem is Israel. We have Mossad and the IDF training everyone’s local PD to be an occupying force and view the population as the enemy, pretty much turning us all into Palestinians. It happened because they had guys like Epstein blackmailing our kiddy diddling Congress creatures into excessive military welfare programs including training our cops how to turn our communities into giant outdoor prisons. No one is allowed to criticize the bad deal we are getting because they label you antisemitic. Unfortunately the police and their coddlers who believe this kind of behavior is acceptable are actively undermining social stability and in the process making themselves and their fellow officers into targets for retaliation. You can either be a cop or an infantryman, but not both at the same time.

First we don't train our Cops to defend themselves, so they automatically go for their gun first.

Now we are training them in a common self defense technique used around the world, but that's bad, too?

Geesh!!  :wtf:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #119 on: June 01, 2020, 11:29:12 AM »
Wow, we got another mind reader.




I am so amused that we can laugh at each other.   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:

I'm sure you can find something to laugh at just sitting alone in the bath ....
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw