George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police (Read 51196 times)

drck1000

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #140 on: June 04, 2020, 12:02:54 PM »
Obama urges George Floyd protesters to push for change, 'make people in power uncomfortable'

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/obama-urges-george-floyd-protesters-to-push-for-change-make-people-in-power-uncomfortable

That's rich coming from the Great Divider speaking from his throne. . .

changemyoil66

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #141 on: June 04, 2020, 12:49:26 PM »
Coverage of the memorial today came up after the news.  While I understand the outrage on the main issue, I always wonder why such focused attention on this case and not others.  That is assuming it's such a "global issue"?  Somewhat sarcastically wondering as I have my opinions on the answer. 

Hundreds, including Al Sharpton, Eric Garner's mom, mourn at George Floyd memorial in Minneapolis

https://www.foxnews.com/us/george-floyd-memorial-minneapolis-al-sharpton-eric-garner-mother

I've watched many white cop and black man videos. And with Floyd, this was the first one that the person was handcuffed.  All the others, the suspect was given a command by an officer and refused, or started to mouth off which increases tension and use of force.  Floyd was on his belly and cuffed behind his back.  There is no threat there.  At most, he wiggles back and forth like a worm.  For me, this makes a huge difference.  But I think the people on the street are just protesting to protest.  Lets not forget all those black square post on social media.  Also is Chauvin a racist?  Is there any proof that he has ever made racist comments or statements?  We know he aint racist to Asians, case his wife is Asian. 

Garner was told to hand over the illegal cigarettes he was selling.  He refused. Things escalated.

groveler

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #142 on: June 04, 2020, 06:12:39 PM »
This whole problem is easy to solve.
Cops should be scared to interact
with anybody.
Democrats make all sorts of chickenshit
laws.
It should be dangerous to your career
to enforce them.
What is more important, a speeding ticket,
or pulling over a guy so drunk he can't maintain
his lane.

A guy selling un-licensed cigarettes or the guy selling
a 12 year old kid for sex?

Priorities.


spicynoodle_1

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #143 on: June 04, 2020, 06:26:32 PM »
This whole problem is easy to solve.
Cops should be scared to interact
with anybody.
Democrats make all sorts of chickenshit
laws.
It should be dangerous to your career
to enforce them.
What is more important, a speeding ticket,
or pulling over a guy so drunk he can't maintain
his lane.

A guy selling un-licensed cigarettes or the guy selling
a 12 year old kid for sex?

Priorities.

Why not enforce all of those laws? They're all illegal. I dont understand the priorities part. Do you mean let the 'speeder' go, but arrest the drunk driver? Let the person selling illegal products go, but go after the sex trafficker?

What if the speeder was drunk? Or what if the person selling illegal products use the funds for other illegal activity, bigger than untaxed cigarettes?

How do you pick which laws to enforce? Although I do feel that a certain level of discretion can be applied...

« Last Edit: June 04, 2020, 06:37:42 PM by spicynoodle_1 »

Jl808

George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #144 on: June 05, 2020, 05:55:18 AM »
Minneapolis council members seek to disband police department

https://www.lawofficer.com/minneapolis-council-members-seek-to-disband-police-department/

:crazy: :popcorn:
« Last Edit: June 05, 2020, 06:02:40 AM by Jl808 »
I think, therefore I am armed.
NRA Life Patron member, HRA Life member, HiFiCo Life Member, HDF member

The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.

jaynick

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #145 on: June 05, 2020, 06:29:39 AM »
Minneapolis council members seek to disband police department

https://www.lawofficer.com/minneapolis-council-members-seek-to-disband-police-department/

:crazy: :popcorn:

I also saw an article talking about L.A. cutting 100-150 mil in their police budget and 250 mil total from the annual budget and redirecting it to the black community.   :popcorn:
https://deadline.com/2020/06/los-angeles-mayor-eric-garcetti-city-officials-cutting-100-150-million-from-lapd-budget-funds-to-be-reinvested-in-communities-of-color-1202950811/
« Last Edit: June 05, 2020, 06:42:41 AM by jaynick »

robtmc

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #146 on: June 05, 2020, 07:04:17 AM »
I also saw an article talking about L.A. cutting 100-150 mil in their police budget and 250 mil total from the annual budget and redirecting it to the black community.   
Gibsmedat!!!

Jl808

I think, therefore I am armed.
NRA Life Patron member, HRA Life member, HiFiCo Life Member, HDF member

The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.

groveler

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #148 on: June 07, 2020, 07:37:27 AM »
Why not enforce all of those laws? They're all illegal. I dont understand the priorities part. Do you mean let the 'speeder' go, but arrest the drunk driver? Let the person selling illegal products go, but go after the sex trafficker?

What if the speeder was drunk? Or what if the person selling illegal products use the funds for other illegal activity, bigger than untaxed cigarettes?

How do you pick which laws to enforce? Although I do feel that a certain level of discretion can be applied...
Just because something is "illegal" doesn't mean it is right
or intelligent.
Democrats pass laws against everything so they have "tools".
Hammers to hit every nail they see, when
they choose to do so.

groveler

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #149 on: June 07, 2020, 07:58:01 AM »
Mayor Jacob Frey told by protestors to leave protest for refusing to defund the police.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/06/get-the-fk-outta-here-minneapolis-mayor-jacob-frey-forced-to-leave-protest-for-refusing-to-defund-police/
We have way too many cops.
We should be able to protect ourselves
and property without involving
police that are minutes away.

I worked at a liquor store in a barrio neighborhood
when I was a kid.  One day some ass, stole a six pack.
the boss said stop him.
I ran the guy down, subdued him, and recovered the
property.
I held him down for the cops to arrest
when they showed up.
When they showed up they threatened to arrest me for
assault!
Luckily I was a minor and the thief was an adult.
They lectured me on not doing this kind of thing again
or face arrest.
A White kid chasing down a Hispanic in a predominately
Hispanic neighbor hood.  Excuse ME but I live and work here.

Full disclosure; I was just a spindly 6 foot tall kid who ran cross country
in high school and knew some Judo.

I don't like cops.  They will never be there when you need them.
and when they are there you don't want them there.




oldfart

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #150 on: June 07, 2020, 09:46:42 AM »
Minneapolis council members seek to disband police department

https://www.lawofficer.com/minneapolis-council-members-seek-to-disband-police-department/

:crazy: :popcorn:
==================
when some ahole sideswipes her car who she gonna call? Facebook friends? BLM?
And BTW, if police are defunded  and money is redistributed, why should it go to black activist groups?
Wouldn't that be racist too?

Police are human antibiotics. They help to control human infections, aka looters, murderers, rapists, etc.
We gun owners are the first line of immunity from those human infections. The police are like penicillin. We rarely need them but are grateful that they are there when needed.
What, Me Worry?

Kuleana

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #151 on: June 07, 2020, 10:12:17 AM »
We have way too many cops.
We should be able to protect ourselves
and property without involving
police that are minutes away.
Isn't it so ironic that there are a number of 2nd Amendment supporters who know all too well that cops are not legally obliged to protect you, your family, or your property and cite this reality in defense of their 2nd Amendment rights against the cops; do an 180 degree about face and speak in-favor of those very same cops, who would have no problem supporting gun confiscation or magazine capacity restrictions?




They will never be there when you need them.
and when they are there you don't want them there.
Exactly.

Moreover, since it appears there are more cops spending time shadowing and roughing up protestors and enforcing curfews, instead of providing assistance to business owners in protecting their own shops from the unorganized and organized looters, 2nd Amendment supporters should be more up in arms and upset with the police.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #152 on: June 07, 2020, 04:25:57 PM »
Isn't it so ironic that there are a number of 2nd Amendment supporters who know all too well that cops are not legally obliged to protect you, your family, or your property and cite this reality in defense of their 2nd Amendment rights against the cops; do an 180 degree about face and speak in-favor of those very same cops, who would have no problem supporting gun confiscation or magazine capacity restrictions?



Exactly.

Moreover, since it appears there are more cops spending time shadowing and roughing up protestors and enforcing curfews, instead of providing assistance to business owners in protecting their own shops from the unorganized and organized looters, 2nd Amendment supporters should be more up in arms and upset with the police.

I find it comical that you think the Cops only have one purpose.

Please explain how the 2nd Amendment is going to help you when you are involved in a car crash? 

How is it going to enforce speed limits so we can drive safely on public highways and streets? 

What part of the 2A solves crimes AFTER they have been committed -- when prevention fails?

Does the 2A provide for shooting your neighbor if they are partying until 3AM on a week night?

Does the 2A protect you from a burglar when you're not at home?  When that burglar alarm goes off, who does your alarm monitor company call to respond?

Such a narrow-minded argument.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

groveler

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #153 on: June 07, 2020, 04:54:25 PM »
I find it comical that you think the Cops only have one purpose.

Please explain how the 2nd Amendment is going to help you when you are involved in a car crash? 

How is it going to enforce speed limits so we can drive safely on public highways and streets? 

What part of the 2A solves crimes AFTER they have been committed -- when prevention fails?

Does the 2A provide for shooting your neighbor if they are partying until 3AM on a week night?

Does the 2A protect you from a burglar when you're not at home?  When that burglar alarm goes off, who does your alarm monitor company call to respond?

Such a narrow-minded argument.
I generally don't get in the middle of you and
Kueleana(sp?)
but this one I can't pass up.
"Please explain how the 2nd Amendment is going to help you when you are involved in a car crash?  "
It won't , why should it? cops are cleaning up a mess.
"How is it going to enforce speed limits so we can drive safely on public highways and streets?"
People are smart enough to drive vehicles safely or they are DEAD!
Don't need a cop to tell me that and charge me for it.
"What part of the 2A solves crimes AFTER they have been committed -- when prevention fails?"
Cops don't prevent anything, we do, if allowed.
Cops just clean up the mess.
"Does the 2A provide for shooting your neighbor if they are partying until 3AM on a week night?"
This is Hawaii, we deal with those problems. Ohana.
"Does the 2A protect you from a burglar when you're not at home?  When that burglar alarm goes off, who does your alarm monitor company call to respond"
My home is virtually never un-watched.
Dogs, mule, donkey Heifer, chickens, nobody gets in here without
some animal you have to deal with.
Most mine free range.
Better than any alarm system you can buy, plus if the world
goes to hell,  I have food.










ren

Deeds Not Words

wirecounter

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #155 on: June 07, 2020, 05:40:39 PM »
I also saw an article talking about L.A. cutting 100-150 mil in their police budget and 250 mil total from the annual budget and redirecting it to the black community.   :popcorn:
https://deadline.com/2020/06/los-angeles-mayor-eric-garcetti-city-officials-cutting-100-150-million-from-lapd-budget-funds-to-be-reinvested-in-communities-of-color-1202950811/

F*ck these liberal idiots.  Let them disband the police and reap the consequences.  WROL is going to look like the Purge albeit without the fortification of homes/buildings.  Everything there will burn except the rural areas.  "For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind"

Kalifornia diverting 75 million (initially) of federal funds for illegals & LA looking to cut 100 to 150 million from the police budget.  All from officials who have security details to protect them from the coming lawlessness.  Just remember that you voted for these clowns before you cry out for federal assistance.

/rant off

oldfart

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #156 on: June 07, 2020, 05:57:03 PM »
F*ck these liberal idiots.  Let them disband the police and reap the consequences.  WROL is going to look like the Purge albeit without the fortification of homes/buildings.  Everything there will burn except the rural areas.  "For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind"

Kalifornia diverting 75 million (initially) of federal funds for illegals & LA looking to cut 100 to 150 million from the police budget.  All from officials who have security details to protect them from the coming lawlessness.  Just remember that you voted for these clowns before you cry out for federal assistance.

/rant off
...
Yep.
I find it difficult to believe that people actually think that doing away with police is going to solve their problems.
I have a theory on this clouded logic....

People have been wearing face masks for several months now.
Since you tend to rebreath your own air, the blood O2 level decreases.
This must decrease brain activity...ie. you get stoopid.
The longer you wear the mask the stoopider you get.

That's my theory and I'm sticking to it. :rofl:

What, Me Worry?

wirecounter

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #157 on: June 07, 2020, 06:39:49 PM »
...
Yep.
I find it difficult to believe that people actually think that doing away with police is going to solve their problems.
I have a theory on this clouded logic....

People have been wearing face masks for several months now.
Since you tend to rebreath your own air, the blood O2 level decreases.
This must decrease brain activity...ie. you get stoopid.
The longer you wear the mask the stoopider you get.

That's my theory and I'm sticking to it. :rofl:

I agree with one exception . . .

"Liberalism is a mental disorder . . . "

oldfart

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #158 on: June 07, 2020, 07:05:28 PM »
I agree with one exception . . .

"Liberalism is a mental disorder . . . "
...
Combined with decreased blood O2 level, it's the perfect storm.
What, Me Worry?

19pontiac79

Re: George Floyd - black man dies under custody of Minneapolis police
« Reply #159 on: June 07, 2020, 08:40:25 PM »
U know I don't get all the anger. We should all agree that Floyd was a shit individual and so was this cop. I see at as a win all around. We should be cheering. Both removed from polite society. One in the ground and one locked up for a very long time. Too bad it doesn't happen as much as alot of people think it does. Too bad this exact same thing doesn't happen a million times over a year. Shit individuals offing other shit individuals and then both disappearing from the pool. World would end up being a better place over time. :shaka:
"if can. Can. If no can. No can" - Uncles 😆
"Why? The ring no block the hole." - Uncle's 😘
"You can throw a rock any distance and you will hit a double standard. = LIFE" 🤷🏽‍♂️