Today had to wait again
And the people were there early hanging out by their car
If you there early, set up
I no like wait for you!!! 

Hope people are emailing the mayor and parks director on a regular basis. I emailed the kokohead management as well, glad they took the time to respond and hear concerns.

Hope people are emailing the mayor and parks director on a regular basis. I emailed the kokohead management as well, glad they took the time to respond and hear concerns.

 

There's a rumor that the Silhouette range will open next weekend.  I don't have a contact to confirm it.  If someone knows someone with the silhouette club then pls confirm.

Trap is open next Sunday and Skeet has given the go ahead.  They have to deal with some electrical issues first before opening.

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11 am group only had 2 shooters show and no wait list.    . There were more egrets and feral 🐓 than shooters

11 am group only had 2 shooters show and no wait list.    . There were more egrets and feral 🐓 than shooters

Maybe the reservations system should start a no-show penalty policy. 

Something like:

1 no-show in 30 days is allowed
2 no-shows in 30 days suspends reservation privileges for 2 weeks
3 no shows in 30 days suspends reservation privileges for a month
Over 3 no-shows in 30 days suspends the reservation account forever

Cancellations made up to 2 hours prior will not be considered no-shows.

Something like this might keep the honest folks honest.  Intentional no-shows can use multiple email addresses anyway, but that's a different can of worms.

Maybe the reservations system should start a no-show penalty policy. 

Something like:

1 no-show in 30 days is allowed
2 no-shows in 30 days suspends reservation privileges for 2 weeks
3 no shows in 30 days suspends reservation privileges for a month
Over 3 no-shows in 30 days suspends the reservation account forever

Cancellations made up to 2 hours prior will not be considered no-shows.

Something like this might keep the honest folks honest.  Intentional no-shows can use multiple email addresses anyway, but that's a different can of worms.

Good ideas.

Assessing a $10 to $20 fee for no-shows may help. People making reservations need to include a credit card. Of course, now they would need to program that into the system.

Without a no-show fee, many will just make haphazard reservations without worry about penalties - because there are none.

Good ideas.

Assessing a $10 to $20 fee for no-shows may help. People making reservations need to include a credit card. Of course, now they would need to program that into the system.

Without a no-show fee, many will just make haphazard reservations without worry about penalties - because there are none.

It's hard to charge island residents for using a public park.  It's even harder to charge them for NOT using it. 

I always thought the range should require users to take some sort of orientation and safety course, to include a registration ID number proving you took it.  if they had that, they could use the ID numbers for reservations, thereby excluding no-shows by anonymous reservation "squatters".

Then, if registered users with ID numbers are failing to show, they can be dealt with on a case-by-case basis.  If they don't pay a fine for repeated no-shows, that ID number could be blocked for future reservations until paid.

Lots of ways to skin that cat.

No offense. But all these ideas are terrible. We shouldnt even consider making new ideas for this system in place. A credit card? Hell to the no we should be using a credit card for reservations in a tax payer funded park. Why give out more personal info?
If this no show is an issue, the only 2 options are. Keep emailing and calling and demanding the mayor to revert their decisions. Or, we as a community come together and ignore these rules and go about regular buisness.

Or we can go back to how it was.  I just got back from Lowes in Waikele and the amount of people milling about the store and also at the other retail outlets is far more worrisome than it would ever be at Koko Head shooting range.

This appointment thing is silly and counterproductive.

Or we can go back to how it was.  I just got back from Lowes in Waikele and the amount of people milling about the store and also at the other retail outlets is far more worrisome than it would ever be at Koko Head shooting range.

This appointment thing is silly and counterproductive.

💯.  I over heard the RO’s saying they’d asked everyone from the previous group if they wanted to stay but they didn’t.  They went on to say most said they didn’t bring enough ammo to last 2 hours.  Keep writing and calling the mayor until things change. 🤙

Theres an RO on the pistol side that scoops up your brass the minute it hits the ground and sorts it for his use on the table. What a dick. He dont care if you reload.
This situation with the online appts and closing half of the range to "disinfect" is a circus act.

2 p.m. today was very sparse.
Whole left side of the range, us and 1 or two other groups.
No one within five or six benches of us.
Quietest I ever heard the range.
1 hour to zero 2 rifles stress free is not nearly enough.
It’s actually 50 minutes. (2 sessions of 25 minutes with target reset in between)

RO’s said plenty no shows because can’t cancel online.
People need to hunt down the number to call if they want to cancel.

Today had to wait again
And the people were there early hanging out by their car
If you there early, set up
I no like wait for you!!! 

If your early head up and sign in.
We got there 15 minutes early. I headed up to check it out.
RO’s had me sign in, assigned me my bench and told to get my targets on the stand at the bench ready to go, uncase rifles and load mags, just don’t put them in the gun.
All while the range was hot on the other side.
Cease fire of course is still everyone behind the yellow line.
But shift change was smooth because everyone was ready to go.

No offense. But all these ideas are terrible.

People who do their political organizing on Facebook are not exactly experts at connecting the dots when it comes to privacy and government spying.

I called to cancel on Wednesday, all I got was a recorded message and I left my message.  I have no idea if my cancellation was forwarded to the pistol range.  I don't ever recall seeing anyone on the phone at the pistol range, so from now on I'm not bothering to call.

Has anyone heard anything about the private side?

Online sign ups suck.
Just tried for next weekend and all the time slots that show one available, when you hit sign up, say class is full. Waitlist.
Mike said they can’t give a bench away to waitlisters until after the first full relay. Which means 25 minutes of shooting.

Mdotweber - Trap reopens 6/21

I see on the reservation website that starting the next week 6/24-6/28, on the pistol side there are 15 spots per hour, and 24 per hour rifle side
could be opening up a bit which is a step in the right direction
I also heard silhouette could reopen 6/19, but no confirmation on this