Post your Cancelled permit to aquire/registration appointments only thread (Read 199993 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Post your Cancelled permit to aquire/registration appointments only thread
« Reply #240 on: February 18, 2021, 10:21:57 AM »
I just got a PTA from someone who cancelled theirs and they immediately put my info in and was able to grab that same PTA.

After 2:30AM seems to work okay using the "cancel as me/reclaim as someone else" method.

I saw a Feb 22 PTA appointment appear at 2:18AM, and it was gone in seconds.  Must be others up with the owls swapping reservations besides me.

I had 2 browser windows open -- one to cancel, and one to view available appointments.  Canceled, refreshed available appointments 3 times to see the one I canceled, then immediately clicked it to keep anyone else from snagging it.

IMO, trying to coordinate with another person to take your appointment is risky.  Just give the appointment "giver" your info, so only one person has to be ready to take the cancelled reservation.  If you are just a little slow, you may miss it.  Three to five seconds is all it seems to take for an appointment to vanish.

I would not be surprised if there are automated BOTs refreshing the reservation page every 5 seconds and filling out the appointment forms when they find one.  There are so few fields to fill in, it would not be difficult to set up.  I've done this in the past to "scrape" information from form-driven webpages on a recurring basis so I wouldn't have to do it manually.

Anyway, if you snooze, you lose.  Omni proved that yesterday by canceling an appointment he meant to reserve for me.  **POOF!**  Gone in seconds. :wtf:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Post your Cancelled permit to aquire/registration appointments only thread
« Reply #241 on: February 18, 2021, 11:14:14 AM »
After 2:30AM seems to work okay using the "cancel as me/reclaim as someone else" method.

I saw a Feb 22 PTA appointment appear at 2:18AM, and it was gone in seconds.  Must be others up with the owls swapping reservations besides me.

I had 2 browser windows open -- one to cancel, and one to view available appointments.  Canceled, refreshed available appointments 3 times to see the one I canceled, then immediately clicked it to keep anyone else from snagging it.

IMO, trying to coordinate with another person to take your appointment is risky.  Just give the appointment "giver" your info, so only one person has to be ready to take the cancelled reservation.  If you are just a little slow, you may miss it.  Three to five seconds is all it seems to take for an appointment to vanish.

I would not be surprised if there are automated BOTs refreshing the reservation page every 5 seconds and filling out the appointment forms when they find one.  There are so few fields to fill in, it would not be difficult to set up.  I've done this in the past to "scrape" information from form-driven webpages on a recurring basis so I wouldn't have to do it manually.

Anyway, if you snooze, you lose.  Omni proved that yesterday by canceling an appointment he meant to reserve for me.  **POOF!**  Gone in seconds. :wtf:

"then immediately clicked it to keep anyone else from snagging it"  FYI clicking it does nothing until you finish the forum.  Doesn't reserve it, someone can finish the form before you and get it.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Post your Cancelled permit to aquire/registration appointments only thread
« Reply #242 on: February 18, 2021, 11:30:17 AM »
"then immediately clicked it to keep anyone else from snagging it"  FYI clicking it does nothing until you finish the forum.  Doesn't reserve it, someone can finish the form before you and get it.

Easy enough to test my theory.  I'll jump on the next appointment I see, then see if it still shows in the list.  If not, then the record was locked for editing.  Nobody can steal it at that point.  First one to get the lock gets to submit the request.

***EDIT***

Okay, I was wrong.  I was able to select and bring up the form for the same reservation request in two windows.  Then, someone else was able to submit the form while I was still in edit mode.  The appointment vanished from the list without me making the reservation.

Not a good way to setup a reservation system with people vying for the same dates/times.  I can see how BOTs would have a definite advantage -- not just in finding, but also in submitting and confirming reservations faster than people can.

All I can say is: TYPE FAST!!   :shake:
« Last Edit: February 18, 2021, 11:47:16 AM by Flapp_Jackson »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Post your Cancelled permit to aquire/registration appointments only thread
« Reply #243 on: February 18, 2021, 11:36:11 AM »
BTW, if the person with the appointment doesn't care about the reservation they are giving away (not swapping with another person for a different date), they could just forward the notification email to the intended "new owner" of the appointment.  Then THEY can stay up late, use the email's cancel link to free up the appointment, and do the re-reservation themselves.

The burden doesn't have to be on the person giving the appointment reservation away.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Post your Cancelled permit to aquire/registration appointments only thread
« Reply #244 on: February 18, 2021, 01:44:26 PM »
BTW, if the person with the appointment doesn't care about the reservation they are giving away (not swapping with another person for a different date), they could just forward the notification email to the intended "new owner" of the appointment.  Then THEY can stay up late, use the email's cancel link to free up the appointment, and do the re-reservation themselves.

The burden doesn't have to be on the person giving the appointment reservation away.

Shit never thought about that.  That's a good idea.  Then no hard feelings for any swaps too. You both email each other the reservation and it's up to your own self to redo it.   Then if you miss and one succeeds. Less anger cause you can only blame yourself. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Post your Cancelled permit to aquire/registration appointments only thread
« Reply #245 on: February 18, 2021, 07:40:45 PM »
Does anyone with a March 5th or later REGISTRATION appointment they don'y need?

 :shaka: :thumbsup:
« Last Edit: February 18, 2021, 11:14:41 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Post your Cancelled permit to aquire/registration appointments only thread
« Reply #246 on: February 18, 2021, 09:06:16 PM »
Looking for Feb 25th or later aquire appointment.  Don't have much to offer other than a may 13th aquire appointment.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2021, 10:34:32 PM by omnigun »

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Post your Cancelled permit to aquire/registration appointments only thread
« Reply #247 on: February 18, 2021, 09:43:21 PM »
Looking for Feb 25th or later appointment.  Don't have much to offer other than a may 13th appointment.

You really should specify the type of appointment.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Post your Cancelled permit to aquire/registration appointments only thread
« Reply #248 on: February 18, 2021, 10:34:41 PM »
You really should specify the type of appointment.

Fixed thanks

omnigun

Re: Post your Cancelled permit to aquire/registration appointments only thread
« Reply #249 on: February 19, 2021, 12:06:26 PM »
Permit to Acquire Firearms - 3 guns or less (Permit to Acquire Firearms - Main Police Station)
When Monday, February 22, 2021 11:30am (10 minutes)

Anyone want to trade for a later February or March date?

mikeps2006

Re: Post your Cancelled permit to aquire/registration appointments only thread
« Reply #250 on: February 19, 2021, 12:44:04 PM »
If anyone has an appointment available ASAP let me know, willing to compensate thanks.


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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Post your Cancelled permit to aquire/registration appointments only thread
« Reply #251 on: February 19, 2021, 12:56:47 PM »
If anyone has an appointment available ASAP let me know, willing to compensate thanks.

There's more than one kind of appointment.   :shaka:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

mikeps2006

Re: Post your Cancelled permit to aquire/registration appointments only thread
« Reply #252 on: February 19, 2021, 01:02:26 PM »
If anyone has an appointment available ASAP let me know, willing to compensate thanks.


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3 or less firearms appointment. Thanks. Let me know guys


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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Post your Cancelled permit to aquire/registration appointments only thread
« Reply #253 on: February 19, 2021, 01:23:56 PM »
3 or less firearms appointment. Thanks. Let me know guys


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Permit?  Assumed.

Registration?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

mikeps2006

Re: Post your Cancelled permit to aquire/registration appointments only thread
« Reply #254 on: February 19, 2021, 01:33:52 PM »
Permit?  Assumed.

Registration?
Yes correct. Thanks


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ren

Re: Post your Cancelled permit to aquire/registration appointments only thread
« Reply #255 on: February 19, 2021, 01:36:36 PM »
need registration :shaka:
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mikeps2006

Re: Post your Cancelled permit to aquire/registration appointments only thread
« Reply #256 on: February 20, 2021, 07:58:59 AM »
Someone helped me out with an appointment. Thank you anyone know if you have to make a separate appointment for registering the firearm too?


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omnigun

Re: Post your Cancelled permit to aquire/registration appointments only thread
« Reply #257 on: February 20, 2021, 08:32:38 AM »
Someone helped me out with an appointment. Thank you anyone know if you have to make a separate appointment for registering the firearm too?


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Yes you do.  2 weeks later for pistols minimum.

mikeps2006

Re: Post your Cancelled permit to aquire/registration appointments only thread
« Reply #258 on: February 20, 2021, 08:34:47 AM »
Do you just make that appointment while at your permit to acquire appointment ?


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omnigun

Re: Post your Cancelled permit to aquire/registration appointments only thread
« Reply #259 on: February 20, 2021, 09:50:45 AM »
Do you just make that appointment while at your permit to acquire appointment ?


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Nope same bullshit have to get one online.  Sorry don't have any of those to give.