What really scares me most of all is voter fraud and Biden winning 2020. 

Will the powers that be cause mayhem leading to civil war?  Will the military really escort Trump, Melania and Barron out of the White House?

Will THIS be the catalyst for a hot civil war?   Did Trump not do anything...or enough to reform elections?  Do you think there are contingency plans Trump has for mass voter fraud and the nasty plans Liberals have to steal the election?

Or is the election already stolen and the White House is already in Dem hands?

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What really scares me most of all is voter fraud and Biden winning 2020. 

Will the powers that be cause mayhem leading to civil war?  Will the military really escort Trump, Melania and Barron out of the White House?

Will THIS be the catalyst for a hot civil war?   Did Trump not do anything...or enough to reform elections?  Do you think there are continuing plans Trump has for mass voter fraud and the nasty plans Liberals have to steal the election?

Or is the election already stolen and the White House is already in Dem hands?

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One train of thought is that the Dems are pushing mail-in ballots for all as a "fail-safe."

If Trump loses, it's because their plan worked.  The voter fraud and vote counting schemes pushed Biden over the top.

If Trump wins, the Dems, they will say it was due to Trump not supporting mail-in balloting, which cost Biden votes.

No matter which way it comes out, The Dems will use this issue against Trump in some way,

We got very lucky with Trump. Hillary would have started one too many wars and inspired a homegrown insurgency. If Biden wins his handlers will try to put the pieces back in Pandoras box and fail miserably, inspiring some real psychotic despots to step forward and ride the wave of social discontent.

Hello Weimar Republic

I normally vote republican.  I think a lot of people that vote republican will vote Biden if it’s Trump vs Biden

The republicans don’t seem to like trump either.

I’ve been stocking ammo and parts for a while because I didn’t expect Trump to win a second term

Get what you can, while you can.  Things are going to suck for a long time.

I don't think Biden is very gun friendly.  Or 2a friendly.

 And many think it's the vice president he picks (or shall I say that the dems will pick) is essentially the real president pulling the strings.

Biden will be the charismatic, photo-genic, figurehead reading the teleprompter.

I don't think Biden is very gun friendly.  Or 2a friendly.

 And many think it's the vice president he picks (or shall I say that the dems will pick) is essentially the real president pulling the strings.

Biden will be the charismatic, photo-genic, figurehead reading the teleprompter.

Good insights.
I disagree about the Teleprompter part as Joe can't
even hold it together with one.
Democrats in general aren't bill of rights friendly,  period.
If his crew takes over, all bets are off.
It will be us against them.

There's always the Biden Defense. Shoot a couple shells into the air and watch them run...



The worst case scenario is that the Dems take both the WH and Congress, both parts. God help us then. Most Republican Senators have forsaken Trump and are hoping that voters split their vote. This year, there are 24 GOP Senators and 11 Dem Senators up for reelection so it's an uphill battle. There are no Hawaii Senators up for reelection. The Dems need 3 more seats to take the majority. If they do and Trump wins, it will be a non-stop impeachment hearing for the foreseeable future.

If Ginsberg doesn't make it, how fast can McConnell push through another conservative Justice?

I'm curious what Trump would do from 11/4 to 1/21 if he did lose? The 20th Amendment says that the President's term ends on 1/21 regardless. If there's no election, then Pelosi automatically becomes President. God help us.

There's always the Biden Defense. Shoot a couple shells into the air and watch them run...

The worst case scenario is that the Dems take both the WH and Congress, both parts. God help us then. Most Republican Senators have forsaken Trump and are hoping that voters split their vote. This year, there are 24 GOP Senators and 11 Dem Senators up for reelection so it's an uphill battle. There are no Hawaii Senators up for reelection. The Dems need 3 more seats to take the majority. If they do and Trump wins, it will be a non-stop impeachment hearing for the foreseeable future.

If Ginsberg doesn't make it, how fast can McConnell push through another conservative Justice?

I'm curious what Trump would do from 11/4 to 1/21 if he did lose? The 20th Amendment says that the President's term ends on 1/21 regardless. If there's no election, then Pelosi automatically becomes President. God help us.

Nope. The Speaker only becomes president if there is a succession scenario, as in the President can't serve (death, health issues, etc), and Pence is also unable to serve. 

If no Pres/VP team wins a majority of the electoral votes, then the Constitution says the House will select the President, and  the Senate selects the VP.  If there's no election (not sure why you'd even think that can happen short of a national emergency -- i.e. war or similar), then the House & Senate will do the voting on our behalf.

The House gives ONE vote to each state's delectation, so states like CA and NY would no longer have the lion's share of votes to cast.  They would have the same power apiece as HI.  If you look at a 2016 election map, Hillary won 20 states, and Trump won 30.  When the weight of each state's voting power is equal, Trump wins the House vote in 2020.

The Constitution gives each senator a single vote, so 2 per state.  Again, if the state results for 2016 carry over to 2020, Pence will win the Senate vote.

Basically, there is a fallback plan in the Constitution if the election fails to choose a winner.  No "President Pelosi" scenario happens unless she and Schiff can remove Trump and Pence both from office via impeachment or "Jeffrey Epsteining" them.

Trump wins=riots
Biden wins = empowered riots
 

And many think it's the vice president he picks (or shall I say that the dems will pick) is essentially the real president pulling the strings.

I agree with this part the most, I wouldn't be surprised if he's deemed incompetent mid-term and the VP takes over if he wins.  His mental faculties seem compromised, maybe early stages of Alzheimer's/dementia.

His mental faculties seem compromised, maybe early stages of Alzheimer's/dementia.

Please, compared to what we have now?  Lmao. Anyway, doesn’t this belong in the politics section?  Just sayin’

 

Please, compared to what we have now?  Lmao. Anyway, doesn’t this belong in the politics section?  Just sayin’

 

Exactly, we're fucked either way   I honestly would be shocked if Trump wins though.

The polls showed Hillary with a big lead over Trump in 2016 and generally his supporters don't respond to polls.  Of the millions of guns sold recently, Business Insider report 40% were first time gun owners.  These need to think if they want to elect a POTUS and Congress who openly said they are going to take or severely restrict their newly acquired purchase.  Add defunding the police and allowing rioters to destroy public and private property.  Trump may very well be re-elected, which will surprise me, just as it did in 2016.  Hillary was so sure she was going to be the next POTUS that reports said she “all giddy” the morning of Election Day when working out the final details of her victory party to take place later that night.  As we all know, it never happened.

I don't think Biden is very gun friendly.  Or 2a friendly.

Of course he is not, Øbowel would never have picked him otherwise.

The polls showed Hillary with a big lead over Trump in 2016 and generally his supporters don't respond to polls.  Of the millions of guns sold recently, Business Insider report 40% were first time gun owners.  These need to think if they want to elect a POTUS and Congress who openly said they are going to take or severely restrict their newly acquired purchase.  Add defunding the police and allowing rioters to destroy public and private property.  Trump may very well be re-elected, which will surprise me, just as it did in 2016.  Hillary was so sure she was going to be the next POTUS that reports said she “all giddy” the morning of Election Day when working out the final details of her victory party to take place later that night.  As we all know, it never happened.

I must say, I smiled the biggest smile in a long long while when I found out Trump won the election.  Not too much because he won but because Hillary LOST! 

I'll never forget her "deplorables" speech.  Never, ever liked her, never supported her, never agreed with her politics, and her husband's past antics is probably the reason she learned the word "deplorable".

Anyway, glad that her political career, what's left of it, has been relegated to the dumpster where it always belonged.

This upcoming presidential election has me stressed out.  I really don't want Biden to win.  His people and the people who sympathize with him want changes in this country that doesn't sit well with me.  Anytime you allow protesters to burn or destroy private property and not hold them accountable is not my cup of tea.  Anytime leaders succumb to the race card instead of the moral right card does not get my vote or support.  A leader that worries what the majority thinks of them instead of doing what is right does not deserve to lead.

Anyway, Trump has been acting strange lately, more than he usually does, lol.....and that gets me worried also.  But he does take action on things this country needs to do, things that are not very popular with the activists out there but I believe the silent majority supports his actions.

Like I said this upcoming election is really stressing me out.

The whole Miske thing has opened my eyes about the criminal conspiracies of the Democratic party on the national as well as local level. We all knew it was there, but until the cuffs started clicking everyone thought "what can you do?"

Locally we were lucky that the Feds stepped in, but nationally the Feds are part of the conspiracy. How many fake Russiagate narratives need to implode before the intelligence sources that crap them out get replaced? For that matter how many mysterious Clinton associate deaths can the justice department cover up before they lose all credibility?

At some point they will step over a line and it will all come spilling out, possibly creating a dangerous power vacuum. My hope is that there are enough patriots still at the controls who recognize what direction the Deep State is driving us (China 2.0) and are willing to do their part to diffuse the bomb before the whole thing blows up in our face.

If Biden wins:
1.  You won't hear about COVID19 anymore.
2.  BLM and the riots will slowly dissapear.
3.  The economy will suddenly appear to have an amazing turn around.
3.  He'll probably give up the Presidency to the VP sometime in his first term. 
4.  VP could serve as President for 11 years.
5.  Ginsberg and Breyer will retire.  Also possibly Thomas and Alito creating a 6-3 SCOTUS split which will end 2A wins for possibly 20 years or more.

If Biden wins:
1.  You won't hear about COVID19 anymore.
2.  BLM and the riots will slowly dissapear.
3.  The economy will suddenly appear to have an amazing turn around.
3.  He'll probably give up the Presidency to the VP sometime in his first term. 
4.  VP could serve as President for 11 years.
5.  Ginsberg and Breyer will retire.  Also possibly Thomas and Alito creating a 6-3 SCOTUS split which will end 2A wins for possibly 20 years or more.

6.  Corruption investigations between the Bidens and Ukraine will be halted.
7.  Corruption investigations between the Bidens and China will be halted.
8.  Investigations into the origins of the FISA warrants to spy on a Republican presidential campaign will be halted.

Basically, any chance of a Democrat being held accountable for any crimes, corruptions or elimination of witnesses (Epstein) will be zero.

What really scares me most of all is voter fraud and Biden winning 2020. 

Will the powers that be cause mayhem leading to civil war?  Will the military really escort Trump, Melania and Barron out of the White House?

Will THIS be the catalyst for a hot civil war?   Did Trump not do anything...or enough to reform elections?  Do you think there are contingency plans Trump has for mass voter fraud and the nasty plans Liberals have to steal the election?

Or is the election already stolen and the White House is already in Dem hands?

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I don't think much will change. He will support more liberal policies of course but he isn't some extreme left person who is going to move the country significantly. People predicted doom and gloom when Obama became president but not that much changed in the grand scheme of things.

Will the military escort Trump out of the White House? I don't see why. Even if Trump lost and somehow threw a fit and refused to leave the military wouldn't be the ones to get involved. Secret service would probably kick him out.

I am not worried there would be a civil war, at least not on some big national scale. Trump would really have to foment a lot of hate and convince people the election was rigged for it to get that far. Not saying it couldn't happen but I think it would take quite a lot to get that bad in 6 months.

I don't think voter fraud for president is much of an issue.  Even if 100% of Maxine Waters district voted for Trump, you think she will cast a vote for him in the electoral college?  Same goes with all the other DNC reps who hate him.