Who would take Masaad Ayoob's Deadly Force Instructor class if it was offered in Hawaii?  This is a $1,200 5 day all classroom course (no live fire) covering the legal aspects of deadly force to teach others, used in a firearms and CCW classes, and give you the skills necessary to testify in court.  A group of us were taking it on the mainland but got postponed due to the quarantine.  One member attended the class and said it was overwhelming information and a.very good class.

Need honest answers.  I know the cost and time requirements are very high.  Currently in talks with Mas, trying to get a feeler on demand here.

https://massadayoobgroup.com/deadly-force-instructor-class/

Not even a little bit.  #JustBeingHonest

Too much for me.
#alsoJustBeingHonest

This is a very niche class and it's a difficult sell since we don't have CCW yet.  But it applies to defense in the home or in public with other weapons.  We do need people trained in it if we're going to make a big push for CCW in the future.  I plan on teaching a couple CCW instructor classes next year and this goes perfectly with that.

If we can meet the class numbers to get him over here then I'll try and arrange for a short seminar for everyone else.

That is a lot of money for just a classroom presentation. Even if he is super sharp on the subject and an excellent instructor $1,200? If he wrote an excellent book maybe I could see $100.

That is a lot of money for just a classroom presentation. Even if he is super sharp on the subject and an excellent instructor $1,200? If he wrote an excellent book maybe I could see $100.

I agree. That's 1 semester class at HPU.

That is a lot of money for just a classroom presentation. Even if he is super sharp on the subject and an excellent instructor $1,200? If he wrote an excellent book maybe I could see $100.

you've never heard of him?

you've never heard of him?

I have heard his name but no one is that good.

From watching ASP and listening to the Polite Society Podcast, (besides his wealth of knowledge) I think he volunteers himself as an expert defense witness if any of his students go to trial for defensive use of a firearm

If he offered a live fire course here might be interested

From watching ASP and listening to the Polite Society Podcast, (besides his wealth of knowledge) I think he volunteers himself as an expert defense witness if any of his students go to trial for defensive use of a firearm

For how much?  Or is it for free if you take his class?
Actually it doesn’t really matter. I can’t afford that class anyway.

Who would take Masaad Ayoob's Deadly Force Instructor class if it was offered in Hawaii?  This is a $1,200 5 day all classroom course (no live fire) covering the legal aspects of deadly force to teach others, used in a firearms and CCW classes, and give you the skills necessary to testify in court.  A group of us were taking it on the mainland but got postponed due to the quarantine.  One member attended the class and said it was overwhelming information and a.very good class.

Need honest answers.  I know the cost and time requirements are very high.  Currently in talks with Mas, trying to get a feeler on demand here.

https://massadayoobgroup.com/deadly-force-instructor-class/

So, taking this class qualifies you to teach others and makes you an expert witness in court?  I guess if you want to become a firearms "trainer" it would be one course of many in the daisy-chain.  Not my area of interest, so put me down for a "no.

I've been to dozens of 1 day workshops and trainings (in other subject areas), and a few 2-day workshops.  Usually by the time lunch is finished I'm so brain-dead the rest of the day is a blur.  Ask me the next day what some of the key takeaways were (see, I know the lingo) and I couldn't tell you squat.  5 days?  $1200?  Hell no (honestly).

Very tempting especially for the access to his wealth of insight, and he knows how to get a lot of information through a short amount of time by telling great stories. If I could make a career move out of it then I would do it, but without CC in Hawaii there is not much of a market for instructors.

I would decline based on what was mentioned earlier.  No CCW in Hawaii.

Maybe a seminar of Home Defense and Property Defense pertinent to Hawaii residents and I'll look into it.  And not $1200.

This class isnt used just for CCW, but also home defense or on the streets whether it be with a gun, a baseball bat, or fists.  Also to help others in trouble.  It basically helps you to save yourself or others from going to prison for a long time.  Attorneys can only do so much for you.  You have to help yourself.  For example If you go to trial it's usually recommended to stay silent cause most people don't know what to say or will say the wrong thing.  This class gives you the skills to say the right thing to save yourself or others.

Mas is one of the top legal self defense experts in the country.  Basically the go to guy of the older shooting community  both in shooting skills and legal knowledge.  He's pretty low key so you don't hear from him much, but he's better than  anyone on any popular YouTube channel.

The class is long, like 9 or 10 hours a day for 5 days.  Again it's not for everyone.  Firearms instructors, attorneys, gun rights activists, law enforcement.

This knowledge is needed in Hawaii to push for CCW, not for after we get it or after an incident hapoens.  The problem with the gun community is everyone is reactive instead of proactive.

The class is long, like 9 or 10 hours a day for 5 days.  Again it's not for everyone.  Firearms instructors, attorneys, gun rights activists, law enforcement.

This knowledge is needed in Hawaii to push for CCW, not for after we get it or after an incident hapoens.  The problem with the gun community is everyone is reactive instead of proactive.

I fall under the "it's not for everyone" category.  I just feel that I am not as knowledgeable in the above matters to get the full benefit of the class and for $1200 a lot of the stuff they will cover will go over my head.

But if they would let people "sit in" (with a fee of course) on certain subjects and not the whole curriculum then I would be interested.  I know I need to get more knowledgeable on these things but for me I need to take baby steps.  This course is too advanced.

Even though I don't think it is for me I hope there is enough interest where he can come and share his wealth of knowledge.

I fall under the "it's not for everyone" category.  I just feel that I am not as knowledgeable in the above matters to get the full benefit of the class and for $1200 a lot of the stuff they will cover will go over my head.

But if they would let people "sit in" (with a fee of course) on certain subjects and not the whole curriculum then I would be interested.  I know I need to get more knowledgeable on these things but for me I need to take baby steps.  This course is too advanced.

Even though I don't think it is for me I hope there is enough interest where he can come and share his wealth of knowledge.

He has a book that's very easy to read.

https://www.amazon.com/Deadly-Force-Understanding-Right-Defense/dp/1440240612/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=masaad+ayoob&qid=1596136203&sr=8-1

This knowledge is needed in Hawaii to push for CCW, not for after we get it or after an incident hapoens.  The problem with the gun community is everyone is reactive instead of proactive.

He is definitely a living legend and part of me wants to do it just to get to meet him, but I am having difficulty making the connection of how taking this class would lead to CCW. If there was something more concrete it might be worth considering, like if someone was starting up a consulting company and was hiring instructors then I could justify the expense.

I just downloaded Ayoob's book on Scribed. 

$1200 is not doable for me.

I just downloaded Ayoob's book on Scribed.

I would need to know who Mr. Ayoob is also, this would be a good start.