AR Pistol with removed gas tube... legal? (Read 2297 times)

John4458

AR Pistol with removed gas tube... legal?
« on: August 11, 2020, 03:53:17 AM »
Aloha!  First post, and I apologize if this has been discussed before, I did a quick search didn't find the answer I'm looking for.

I'm moving back to Oahu this summer after having been off island about 8 years, in that time I've acquired a bunch of stuff that isn't exactly Hawaii legal.  So, if I had an AR pistol, and I removed the gas tube, would that be sufficient to avoid the ridiculous, absurd, infringing and totally pointless "assault pistol" designation since it will not be able to function as a semi-auto?  I absolutely have no interest in welding a mag to a lower, that's just out of the question for me.  By removing the gas tube it becomes essentially a manually operated single shot, but when/if I end up off island again I could replace it and have it function as God and the founding fathers intended.

Thanks!
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WTF?Shane

Re: AR Pistol with removed gas tube... legal?
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2020, 10:49:23 AM »
In theory it should be legal, but that all depends on the person behind the counter when registering. From what I've seen before, they won't accept it because it can be easily restored by installation of gas tube.

Think of something more complex. Maybe plug the gas port on the barrel and gas tube hole on the upper receiver. Barrels and upper receivers are pretty cheap.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: AR Pistol with removed gas tube... legal?
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2020, 01:47:19 PM »
In theory it should be legal, but that all depends on the person behind the counter when registering. From what I've seen before, they won't accept it because it can be easily restored by installation of gas tube.

Think of something more complex. Maybe plug the gas port on the barrel and gas tube hole on the upper receiver. Barrels and upper receivers are pretty cheap.

Or, use a barrel that hasn't had the gas port drilled yet.   :thumbsup:

It might be difficult to locate a barrel with no port drilled, but I'm sure most manufacturers will custom order one for you.

When building my first ARs, I came across lots of barrels that had no gas ports.  The idea was that they could avoid making and stocking so many barrels of differing gas system lengths.  Now, looking at the same retailers' ads, it looks like predrilled ports are the norm.
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eyeeatingfish

Re: AR Pistol with removed gas tube... legal?
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2020, 08:14:10 PM »
The way that the firearms section explained it to me was that it can't be something that is easily changed to return it to being a semi auto firearm. So if the barrel didn't have a gas port or the receiver didn't have the space for the gas tube then it should be fine. However if it is a matter of swapping out one piece for another piece then well you run into issues and are in the gray area and could run into issues.

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eyeeatingfish

Re: AR Pistol with removed gas tube... legal?
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2020, 08:38:32 PM »
So JB Weld?

https://www.lowes.com/pd/J-B-WELD-Steelstick-Gray-Steel-Epoxy-Construction-Adhesive-Actual-Net-Contents-2-Fl-Oz/3389024

Thats probably what I would use. It has higher temp ratings than most epoxies. Could sand it smooth and touch it up with paint to make it look like there was never a hole. Would also be relatively easy to drill out in the event you wanted to change the gun later.