What's the difference between life created in the womb and the exact same method of life created in a lab?  Literally ends up 100% the exact same thing. 

Embryonic stem cells only come from four to five day old blastocysts or younger embryos. These are eggs that have been fertilized in the laboratory but have not been implanted in a womb.

ENOUGH!

You've now derailed two threads to ARGUE about YOUR BELIEFS and smear anyone who doesn't agree with you.

The RBG and now this Trump thread are NOT abortion debates.

Start another thread on abortion, or shut the f**k up!

 

Other than the fact this is false and I am willing to bet you any amount of money you want on that if you disagree. (willing to go to a legal location to place the bet legitimately)

Love that you just ignored the whole I'm pro life question.  Guessing you don't have any come back for that.

I ignored it because it's

OFF TOPIC!

I ignored it because it's

OFF TOPIC!

Convenient.  How is trumps treatment off topic on the topic about trumps covid 19?  If i were to put it on the other thread I would argue it would have alot less relevance on topic.  I could create another thread dedicated to this but it seems a waste.

Also zero mention of the false claim.  You know flapp sometimes its okay to admit you are wrong...this is a safe place 

What's the difference between life created in the womb and the exact same method of life created in a lab?  Literally ends up 100% the exact same thing.  There is zero difference between the collection of cells created by natural fertilization and lab.  Not implanting them doesn't change what it is.

Embryonic stem cells only come from four to five day old blastocysts or younger embryos. These are eggs that have been fertilized in the laboratory but have not been implanted in a womb.

Wow lol. The difference, obviously, is that an egg that’s fertilized in a lab has no chance of ever becoming a child unless it is implanted in the womb. By your logic every time I fap and flush the swimmers down the drain I am a “pro life hypocrite”.

Again the fertilized eggs that have been used in embryonic stem cells were rejected for implantation.

Wow lol. The difference, obviously, is that an egg that’s fertilized in a lab has no chance of ever becoming a child unless it is implanted in the womb. By your logic every time I fap and flush the swimmers down the drain I am a “pro life hypocrite”.

Again the fertilized eggs that have been used in embryonic stem cells were rejected for implantation.

You can implant it in the womb at any time, or  there are experiments to grow things out of the womb right now.  Why does the location of this clump of cells matter in what it is?  Also I see no proof of your assertion that all the fertilized eggs that have been used in embryonic stem cells were rejected for implantation.  Meaning that they are all non viable.  Each country and state have their own rules, hard to find definitive answer.
Also when you fap those arn't fertilized....

You can implant it in the womb at any time, or  there are experiments to grow things out of the womb right now.  Why does the location of this clump of cells matter in what it is?  Also I see no proof of your assertion that all the fertilized eggs that have been used in embryonic stem cells were rejected for implantation.  Meaning that they are all non viable.  Each country and state have their own rules, hard to find definitive answer.
Also when you fap those arn't fertilized....

 

 
(Funny you used to rip on me for using that)

Trump has some of the best doctors in the world treating him.  If anyone believes the President of the US (1) took a ride to greet supporters, and (2) exposed his security detail to COVID-19, all without consulting his doctors, then you should have another glass of KoolAid and scream at the sky some more.
Better help yourself to some more from that pot, Mr. kettle.

As for being at the White House, doctors try to get patients out of the hospital as soon as possible no matter WHO they are.  Being in a hospital increases the risk for complications (cross infections in particular) as well as stress which increases the time to recuperate. 

Did not know you were a Doctor.

Trump did NOT go home (i.e. his own house).  He went to the White House.  They have all the same equipment and people as the hospital to continue treating the President.  Being at Walter Reed would have been no different, and staying could have been detrimental for him.  Not to mention that the longer he stays, the crazier the loons on the Left, especially the MSM, would ramp up their calls to swear Pence in as President, and that Trump was on his death bed.

Is Fox MSM ?

Facts matter.

And for the record I’m just questioning everybody’s sanity.
Flapp says crazier loons on the left while appearing to be a crazier loon on the right.
When do we just question all this crap?
Do we have a good choice for President?
Appears to me, No.
But also appears Trump is better of two evils if we can handle the social discourse for four more years.
As an “advanced” civilization we should. But that’s not saying a lot based on current events.

Shit, I’m back off-topic.

And nevermind with the abortion.
Start a new topic if you folks want.
It’s like Kuleana and Sovereignty.

(Funny you used to rip on me for using that)

Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on Today at 12:35:01 PM
Trump has some of the best doctors in the world treating him.  If anyone believes the President of the US (1) took a ride to greet supporters, and (2) exposed his security detail to COVID-19, all without consulting his doctors, then you should have another glass of KoolAid and scream at the sky some more.
Better help yourself to some more from that pot, Mr. kettle.

As for being at the White House, doctors try to get patients out of the hospital as soon as possible no matter WHO they are.  Being in a hospital increases the risk for complications (cross infections in particular) as well as stress which increases the time to recuperate.

Did not know you were a Doctor.

Trump did NOT go home (i.e. his own house).  He went to the White House.  They have all the same equipment and people as the hospital to continue treating the President.  Being at Walter Reed would have been no different, and staying could have been detrimental for him.  Not to mention that the longer he stays, the crazier the loons on the Left, especially the MSM, would ramp up their calls to swear Pence in as President, and that Trump was on his death bed.

Is Fox MSM ?

Facts matter.

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In other words, you really have nothing useful to contribute.

Same-old, same-old.

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In other words, you really have nothing useful to contribute.

Same-old, same-old.
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 Oh my Gosh Pot, did You just call Kettle again.
You DO NOT EVER answer a direct question.
Deflect and Insult.  You should use that for your fifth forum user name. 

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In other words, you really have nothing useful to contribute.

Same-old, same-old.

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In other words, you really have nothing useful to contribute.

Same-old, same-old.


 Oh my Gosh Pot, did You just call Kettle again.
You DO NOT EVER answer a direct question.
Deflect and Insult.  You should use that for your fifth forum user name. 

His other option is to ignore.   Or scream off topic appears to be his newly learned skill. 

Ah, Don’t worry about Flapp.
He’s kind of a light weight. Deflect and insult.
(You seen his last 2 responses to me.?)
He’ll Throw in couple google references sometimes.
Try to Overwhelm you with Googlefu.
He’s Really good on technical reference stuff but has no original thought on social or political stuff.

As for Drck, Ren, Groveler, Heavies, JL808, OF, Inspector, Rocky and most of the others.  Listen to their input.
Don’t need to agree with them but read what they’re saying.
And respond respectfully and in kind.

(And I know I missed a bunch. Skipped Macsak on purpose just to piss him off.  Good guy though. )

And don’t need to derail multiple threads. Just start another if there’s a topic to discuss.
Abortion and stem cell culturing...now there’s an interesting topic.....just NOT in this thread.

Off-topic is a thread for a reason.

In other words, you really have nothing useful to contribute.

From what i recall of two of three liberals, they just want to argue and maybe get the last word in, like a woman.  Last word = I WIN!!!

Hey, maybe they ARE female, that would explain the endless need to argue about something.?


I suspect the kid with the iFag is the same way.  Sure seems wrapped up about abortions, like you were threatening to steal something he might need?

From what i recall of two of three liberals, they just want to argue and maybe get the last word in, like a woman.  Last word = I WIN!!!

Hey, maybe they ARE female, that would explain the endless need to argue about something.?


I suspect the kid with the iFag is the same way.  Sure seems wrapped up about abortions, like you were threatening to steal something he might need?

Ignorant and sexist we got a winning combo in this guy.