Poll

Who is everyone voting for this year

Trump
90%
Biden
6.7%
None
3.3%
Total Members Voted
30

Who is everyone voting for this year (president) (Read 47764 times)

macsak

Re: Who is everyone voting for this year (president)
« Reply #180 on: October 09, 2020, 12:18:05 PM »
He will never take guns away, no matter all the stupid laws he passes they are all bans of purchasing that I know about.  Even if he did pass a "take away" law it wouldn't past muster in court.  I doubt it would pass the American public either.  I wouldn't give my stuff up. I comfortably own well more than enough assault rifles to not need any more.  If a ban passes and the court doesn't squash it the next decent pro 2a candidate will get my vote and we can undo all the harm done.   Its only 4 years. 

There's just values I hold that are just as important as guns or more and trump doesn't believe in them.  Sacrifices must be made.


omnigun

Re: Who is everyone voting for this year (president)
« Reply #181 on: October 09, 2020, 12:56:08 PM »
You're not alone.  There are plenty of people in Hawaii planning to vote against Trump (as opposed to "for" Biden).

Those people are the ones taking our liberties by locking the state down for going on a year and passing more gun control laws EVEN THOUGH they, in the same bills, brag how Hawaii has the lowest gun violence in the nation.  Obviously success means they should pass even more laws to solve ..... no identifiable problem.

And Biden will put a stranglehold on Hawaii by banning any and all Internet sales of guns, gun parts, ammo or accessories.

You're in good company, since you seem to agree that only the freedoms you care about matter.  2A isn't your "issue".

There are things called checks and balances preventing that but I'm not going to fight you on that. 

I see you are a one issue voter. 

IF biden was pro 2a and trump was anti 2a would you vote for biden?

omnigun

Re: Who is everyone voting for this year (president)
« Reply #182 on: October 09, 2020, 12:57:57 PM »


Hmmmm, maybe I'll vote libertarian afterall.  But they still have to pass the law,  not have the supreme court stop it, then go out house to house and kill 1000's of people to take back all the guns.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Who is everyone voting for this year (president)
« Reply #183 on: October 09, 2020, 01:03:57 PM »
There are things called checks and balances preventing that but I'm not going to fight you on that. 

I see you are a one issue voter. 

IF biden was pro 2a and trump was anti 2a would you vote for biden?

I'm not a ONE ISSUE VOTER, as you claim without evidence.

This IS a one issue forum.  The name is a clue:  2aHawaii.

Duh!   :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

passivekinetic

Re: Who is everyone voting for this year (president)
« Reply #184 on: October 10, 2020, 04:29:52 PM »
I didn't read all the messages.

Voting Biden by someone on a 2A forum is like a vegetarian eating cats.
"The sheep fear sheepdogs, because they fail to see the wolves."
- Anonymous

ren

Re: Who is everyone voting for this year (president)
« Reply #185 on: October 10, 2020, 05:16:38 PM »


Deeds Not Words

Inspector

Re: Who is everyone voting for this year (president)
« Reply #186 on: October 11, 2020, 12:01:58 PM »
I didn't read all the messages.

Voting Biden by someone on a 2A forum is like a vegetarian eating cats.
That’s funny!!  :rofl:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

rpoL98

Re: Who is everyone voting for this year (president)
« Reply #187 on: October 11, 2020, 12:26:34 PM »
it's scary A.F. that all the major polls show Biden winning by lots.  it is worrisome.  last time, Trump pulled a Hail Mary.  can't really assume that he'll be able to pull it off again.

robtmc

Re: Who is everyone voting for this year (president)
« Reply #188 on: October 11, 2020, 01:01:55 PM »
The bastards are up to something, no one is even showing up for democrat events.

https://twitter.com/InfidelAngela/status/1315359365893967874

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Who is everyone voting for this year (president)
« Reply #189 on: October 11, 2020, 01:31:39 PM »
The bastards are up to something, no one is even showing up for democrat events.

https://twitter.com/InfidelAngela/status/1315359365893967874

According to OmniGoon, enthusiasm at rallies and other campaign events is in no way indicative of how many people will vote for a candidate.

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

If you can't be bothered to show support at a local event by just showing up, how motivated can you be to vote for your guy?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Who is everyone voting for this year (president)
« Reply #190 on: October 11, 2020, 09:06:03 PM »
That's even more meaningless than voting for a Republican in this state.

Unless you're voting Democrat, your vote for President doesn't count.
That's just a fact.

So are you not voting Trump then?

eyeeatingfish

Re: Who is everyone voting for this year (president)
« Reply #191 on: October 11, 2020, 09:15:11 PM »
Why do you always blame Trump?

The WHO in June said HEALTHY PEOPLE DO NOT NEED TO WEAR MASKS.

https://www.westernjournal.com/confusion-disagrees-cdc-recommendations-says-no-need-healthy-people-wear-masks/


And, if you go back to March ...

https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/03/facemasks-coronavirus-says-cdc-who/

If you want to blame Trump, you will regardless of the FACTS.

I guess you have the memory of a goldfish, since anyone paying attention remembers the conflicting information being provided about masks:  don't buy them -- don't wear them -- don't wear M95 -- make your own and wear them everywhere when you go out -- they don't prevent the wearer from catching the virus -- they do prevent the virus if sick people wear them -- and on and on.

You cherry pick the older advice to support Trump while ignoring the new stuff. Even the WHO now recommends masks when social distancing isn't possible
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52945210

Even since the advice changed Trump hasn't worn masks. Fauci later said people should wear masks but Trump refused. Pence even went into a hospital without one. Initial guidelines said mask wearing was not needed because they were trying to make sure medical personnel had enough supply.

Literally all Trump had to do was let Dr. Fauci do his thing, wear a mask in public, and take credit for it all when things started to get better. But no, he pushed a medicine with very little evidence that it worked, he has held gatherings without masks, he has undermined the efforts of Dr. Fauci multiple times, and he has gotten in the way of what could have been one of his biggest things to convince people he should be re-elected.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Who is everyone voting for this year (president)
« Reply #192 on: October 11, 2020, 09:19:14 PM »
long ago was "new ice age!" then "global warming" now "climate change"...

Predictions of an ice age were never accepted as likely theory. Only a small percentage of the climate scientists believed there would be an ice age, less than 10% IIRC. But it was a cool headline so it got attention and the news reported it even though it wasn't a widely accepted theory. Now a bunch of climate skeptics all point to that as some argument against climate change when they didn't even know anything about that prediction. Thats just another example of the climate skeptics looking for evidence to support their views instead of looking at the science and then forming their view.

omnigun

Re: Who is everyone voting for this year (president)
« Reply #193 on: October 11, 2020, 09:19:19 PM »
You cherry pick the older advice to support Trump while ignoring the new stuff. Even the WHO now recommends masks when social distancing isn't possible
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52945210

Even since the advice changed Trump hasn't worn masks. Fauci later said people should wear masks but Trump refused. Pence even went into a hospital without one. Initial guidelines said mask wearing was not needed because they were trying to make sure medical personnel had enough supply.

Literally all Trump had to do was let Dr. Fauci do his thing, wear a mask in public, and take credit for it all when things started to get better. But no, he pushed a medicine with very little evidence that it worked, he has held gatherings without masks, he has undermined the efforts of Dr. Fauci multiple times, and he has gotten in the way of what could have been one of his biggest things to convince people he should be re-elected.

Cherry pick is flapps middle name. 

According to OmniGoon, enthusiasm at rallies and other campaign events is in no way indicative of how many people will vote for a candidate.

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

If you can't be bothered to show support at a local event by just showing up, how motivated can you be to vote for your guy?

I guess this is why you are against making voting easier....

eyeeatingfish

Re: Who is everyone voting for this year (president)
« Reply #194 on: October 11, 2020, 09:21:26 PM »
the research into mask usage is not all there for or against mask usage. We are all caught up into the "we need to do something".
Same thing with "climate change"
and that list of "accomplishments" is not biased at all :rofl:

There have been quite a number of tests that showed the effectiveness of various types of masks including homemade ones. It may not be all there but there is a fair basis of evidence that shows mask wearing can help reduce the spread of the virus significantly.

And yes, the list of Biden's accomplishments is surely biased, but so are lists of Trump's accomplishments. That was kind of my whole point. Politicians point to all sorts of things as accomplishments when they really aren't accomplishments at all. Or like you and me going to work, doing our normal jobs, and then claiming that accomplishments. Both Biden and Trump have accomplishment lists that are full of BS.

omnigun

Re: Who is everyone voting for this year (president)
« Reply #195 on: October 11, 2020, 09:21:43 PM »
Predictions of an ice age were never accepted as likely theory. Only a small percentage of the climate scientists believed there would be an ice age, less than 10% IIRC. But it was a cool headline so it got attention and the news reported it even though it wasn't a widely accepted theory. Now a bunch of climate skeptics all point to that as some argument against climate change when they didn't even know anything about that prediction. Thats just another example of the climate skeptics looking for evidence to support their views instead of looking at the science and then forming their view.
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I have a feeling when that one scientist said testing the atomic bomb would ignite the atmosphere and destroy earth and it didnt happen.  Flapp would forever use that as a reason to test anything new. 

omnigun

Re: Who is everyone voting for this year (president)
« Reply #196 on: October 11, 2020, 09:45:37 PM »
Voted by mail.  Ended up voting for libertarian.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Who is everyone voting for this year (president)
« Reply #197 on: October 11, 2020, 09:46:31 PM »
Voted by mail.  Ended up voting for libertarian.

Cross post.

This is the right thread, though.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Inspector

Re: Who is everyone voting for this year (president)
« Reply #198 on: October 12, 2020, 01:56:40 AM »
While I was living in Hawaii one thing that was quite disheartening for me was a lack of opposing candidates of any substance. When you are an Independent voter it does’t matter what party they are in. I just wanted a candidate which aligns more with my conservative and liberal social leanings. There was only one office (my state representative with Sharon Har) with a DINO running. She is terrific! I went to almost every talk story she held. I didn’t always agree with her stance on some topics but overall she is doing a great job for Kapolei. Voting for a mayor was really a joke. It was hard to distinguish between candidates. Emotional voting is prevalent there. Voting for the national/federal offices is important. But voting for your local and statewide candidates is even more important IMHO. And with the lack of candor and opposing views there is actually disturbing to me.

Also, voting for a president while living in Hawaii is also quite disheartening. I feel like my vote will have more of an impact now that I live in AZ. We are considered a battleground state this year. Trump, Pence and Biden have visited here multiple times. I have spent at least 8 hours in the last week studying all of the candidates and measures that are up for a vote here. It has been a tough time for me having to weed through those candidates who seem to not be lying about their positions to get into office. We have a lot Independents and RINO’s running for many offices including plenty of write-in candidates. And since I am not familiar with all the different names I had a hell of a time trying to decide.

I filled out my ballot yesterday and I am going to deliver it directly to our election office to eliminate putting it in the mail.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

omnigun

Re: Who is everyone voting for this year (president)
« Reply #199 on: October 12, 2020, 08:10:44 AM »
TBH just watched the fox interview with Pete, he woulda been a far better choice than biden for the liberals.



"Do you believe, at any point in pregnancy, that there should be any limit on a woman's right to an abortion?" Wallace asked.

"I think the dialogue has gotten so caught up on when you draw the line that we've gotten away from the fundamental question of who gets to draw the line," Buttigieg said.

"And I trust women to draw the line."

Wallace pointed to late term abortions and asked Buttigieg what his position was in back-and-forth.

"You would be okay with a woman well into the third trimester to obtain an abortion?" Wallace asked.

"These hypotheticals are set up to provoke a strong emotional reaction," Buttigieg said.

"These aren't hypotheticals — there are 6,000 women a year who get an abortion in the third trimester," Wallace said.

"That's right, representing less than one percent of cases a year," Buttigieg replied. The data from 2019 appears to support his claim, according to a Los Angeles Times report.

"So, let's put ourselves in the shoes of a woman in that situation. If it's that late in your pregnancy, that means almost by definition you've been expecting to carry it to term," he went on.

"We're talking about women who have perhaps chosen the name, women who have purchased the crib, families that then get the most devastating medical news of their lifetime, something about the health or the life of the mother that forces them to make an impossible, unthinkable choice."

"That decision is not going to be made any better, medically or morally, because the government is dictating how that decision should be made," he said.