TBH just watched the fox interview with Pete, he woulda been a far better choice than biden for the liberals.



"Do you believe, at any point in pregnancy, that there should be any limit on a woman's right to an abortion?" Wallace asked.

"I think the dialogue has gotten so caught up on when you draw the line that we've gotten away from the fundamental question of who gets to draw the line," Buttigieg said.

"And I trust women to draw the line."

Wallace pointed to late term abortions and asked Buttigieg what his position was in back-and-forth.

"You would be okay with a woman well into the third trimester to obtain an abortion?" Wallace asked.

"These hypotheticals are set up to provoke a strong emotional reaction," Buttigieg said.

"These aren't hypotheticals — there are 6,000 women a year who get an abortion in the third trimester," Wallace said.

"That's right, representing less than one percent of cases a year," Buttigieg replied. The data from 2019 appears to support his claim, according to a Los Angeles Times report.

"So, let's put ourselves in the shoes of a woman in that situation. If it's that late in your pregnancy, that means almost by definition you've been expecting to carry it to term," he went on.

"We're talking about women who have perhaps chosen the name, women who have purchased the crib, families that then get the most devastating medical news of their lifetime, something about the health or the life of the mother that forces them to make an impossible, unthinkable choice."

"That decision is not going to be made any better, medically or morally, because the government is dictating how that decision should be made," he said.

If I had to pick which DNC was the lesser of the evils, I would have gone with Yang.  Even though his $2K a month plan would never work, he seems the most not bat shit crazy.  But he does hate the 2a as well, but so do all the DNC's that were running.  I forgot which issues it was, but I noticed he actually had plans of how to fix/solve the problem.  Vs. the vanilla answer of "vote for me for change".  The plans weren't very good, but at least it was a plan.

While I was living in Hawaii one thing that was quite disheartening for me was a lack of opposing candidates of any substance. When you are an Independent voter it does’t matter what party they are in. I just wanted a candidate which aligns more with my conservative and liberal social leanings. There was only one office (my state representative with Sharon Har) with a DINO running. She is terrific! I went to almost every talk story she held. I didn’t always agree with her stance on some topics but overall she is doing a great job for Kapolei. Voting for a mayor was really a joke. It was hard to distinguish between candidates. Emotional voting is prevalent there. Voting for the national/federal offices is important. But voting for your local and statewide candidates is even more important IMHO. And with the lack of candor and opposing views there is actually disturbing to me.

Also, voting for a president while living in Hawaii is also quite disheartening. I feel like my vote will have more of an impact now that I live in AZ. We are considered a battleground state this year. Trump, Pence and Biden have visited here multiple times. I have spent at least 8 hours in the last week studying all of the candidates and measures that are up for a vote here. It has been a tough time for me having to weed through those candidates who seem to not be lying about their positions to get into office. We have a lot Independents and RINO’s running for many offices including plenty of write-in candidates. And since I am not familiar with all the different names I had a hell of a time trying to decide.

I filled out my ballot yesterday and I am going to deliver it directly to our election office to eliminate putting it in the mail.

I thought the same thing and thought if I'm complaining about it I should do something about it. Run for public office? I don't have the stomach for it. Especially for the salary - not worth it. Served on AOAO boards and that was very trying on the nerves.
I think that's why there is a small pool of candidates. In regards to our City rep candidates, I heard that Augie T is delivering food and I have no idea what Will E is doing besides repping Kangols. The crap only gets deeper when you get into the Mayor and Gov races.

Looks like the HPD troll has shown up to prop up the foundering millennial and the liberal side.  A page full of blocked posts.

Looks like the HPD troll has shown up to prop up the foundering millennial and the liberal side.  A page full of blocked posts.

EEF must have found another forum that confirms his biases.  He just checks in here from time to time, adds his 2 cents on a dozen or so topics, then runs away until next time.

Too bad the long breaks between visits haven't made him any smarter.

While I was living in Hawaii one thing that was quite disheartening for me was a lack of opposing candidates of any substance. When you are an Independent voter it does’t matter what party they are in. I just wanted a candidate which aligns more with my conservative and liberal social leanings. There was only one office (my state representative with Sharon Har) with a DINO running. She is terrific! I went to almost every talk story she held. I didn’t always agree with her stance on some topics but overall she is doing a great job for Kapolei. Voting for a mayor was really a joke. It was hard to distinguish between candidates. Emotional voting is prevalent there. Voting for the national/federal offices is important. But voting for your local and statewide candidates is even more important IMHO. And with the lack of candor and opposing views there is actually disturbing to me.

Also, voting for a president while living in Hawaii is also quite disheartening. I feel like my vote will have more of an impact now that I live in AZ. We are considered a battleground state this year. Trump, Pence and Biden have visited here multiple times. I have spent at least 8 hours in the last week studying all of the candidates and measures that are up for a vote here. It has been a tough time for me having to weed through those candidates who seem to not be lying about their positions to get into office. We have a lot Independents and RINO’s running for many offices including plenty of write-in candidates. And since I am not familiar with all the different names I had a hell of a time trying to decide.

I filled out my ballot yesterday and I am going to deliver it directly to our election office to eliminate putting it in the mail.

I'm sure some Democrat will fill out your Hawaii ballot just like how they were told too.  Lol

I'm glad your enjoying yourself up there.
I saw your other post about SCOTUS and ROE, it was just too crowded to post. 
 We're doing great down here

Take care of yourself and your wife!!

I thought the same thing and thought if I'm complaining about it I should do something about it. Run for public office? I don't have the stomach for it. Especially for the salary - not worth it. Served on AOAO boards and that was very trying on the nerves.
I think that's why there is a small pool of candidates. In regards to our City rep candidates, I heard that Augie T is delivering food and I have no idea what Will E is doing besides repping Kangols. The crap only gets deeper when you get into the Mayor and Gov races.

I thought of running as well. Like you I don’t have the stomach for it. Plus at the time I was working on the rail and 60 hours per week. There was no way I could do both.

Still, there is literally no Republican or Independent representation there. I remember the first mayoral race I voted in and there were 3 Democrats to vote for. During their debate it was tough for any of them to stand out on policy since they all pretty much had the same policies.

I'm sure some Democrat will fill out your Hawaii ballot just like how they were told too.  Lol

I'm glad your enjoying yourself up there.
I saw your other post about SCOTUS and ROE, it was just too crowded to post. 
 We're doing great down here

Take care of yourself and your wife!!

I am happy you guys are doing well.

You forgot dead. A dead Democrat is going to fill out my Hawaii ballot for me! 

EEF must have found another forum that confirms his biases. 

HPD may have decided they are not going to be successful here getting anyone to self-incriminate. 
They directed their tool elsewhere to work and troll?

HPD may have decided they are not going to be successful here getting anyone to self-incriminate. 
They directed their tool elsewhere to work and troll?

Very possible.

Maybe the COVID-19 pandemic resulted in HPD furloughing non-essential trolls?

All this hate for EEF.  And HPD.  So much for blue lives matter for you folks.  Are you sure you guys are republicans?

I think EEF is far more reasonable than Flapp and rob.  At least to my opinions on the world.  I don't agree with everything but far more than some of you folks.

When you start attacking people without substance just based on who they are with no evidence and label them as troll or liberal you already lost. You put them in a box to hate not based on any substance but just on feelings.  The exact same thing you all tend to say I do.  Hypocritical much. 
The world shouldn't be just us vs them.  That's why this country is being torn apart and going to the extremes.  Lets all get along, we all love guns. 

All this hate for EEF.  And HPD.  So much for blue lives matter for you folks.  Are you sure you guys are republicans?

I think EEF is far more reasonable than Flapp and rob.  At least to my opinions on the world.  I don't agree with everything but far more than some of you folks.

EEF believes in red flags.  And HPD will always follow orders to enact a red flag confiscation.  Per their SOP in their handbook states SSD will be sent.  We all know SSD is known to simply knock on doors and not kick them in.

HPD has not released a statement like Sheriff departments across the nation have that said such red flag laws are unconstitutional and will not enforce.  And seeming how they (brass) pushed for a rifle mag bill and not 1 uniformed officer spoke up nor any police union spoke up either.  Even though 12 uniformed brass, including Ballard showed up to support the mag bill when it was up for a vote.  HPD also had a part in the ghost gun law.  They actually made a P80 that cost $800 as a test to see how easy it was to do.  Major Neilson said this at the bills hearing.  I spoke and said it cost about $600, and he corrected me and said it cost them $800.  Must have all strike industries furniture.  Betting someone got to take the gun home after on our tax dollar.

All this hate for EEF.  And HPD.  So much for blue lives matter for you folks.  Are you sure you guys are republicans?

I think EEF is far more reasonable than Flapp and rob.  At least to my opinions on the world.  I don't agree with everything but far more than some of you folks.

When you start attacking people without substance just based on who they are with no evidence and label them as troll or liberal you already lost. You put them in a box to hate not based on any substance but just on feelings.  The exact same thing you all tend to say I do.  Hypocritical much. 
The world shouldn't be just us vs them.  That's why this country is being torn apart and going to the extremes.  Lets all get along, we all love guns.

Nobody put you in a box based off feelings. You put yourself there by coming into a pro-gun forum and spouting support for possibly the most anti gun administration in recent memory. It really shouldn’t be a surprise that you caught so much shit for it.

Also I’d have a lot more support for HPD if they weren’t actively against our 2nd amendment.

All this hate for EEF.  And HPD.  So much for blue lives matter for you folks.  Are you sure you guys are republicans?

I think EEF is far more reasonable than Flapp and rob.  At least to my opinions on the world.  I don't agree with everything but far more than some of you folks.

When you start attacking people without substance just based on who they are with no evidence and label them as troll or liberal you already lost. You put them in a box to hate not based on any substance but just on feelings.  The exact same thing you all tend to say I do.  Hypocritical much. 
The world shouldn't be just us vs them.  That's why this country is being torn apart and going to the extremes.  Lets all get along, we all love guns.

He's the king of hypothetical academic hogwash, trying (poorly) to play devil's advocate in nearly every thread.

It gets old after a few years.

Also, you just said, "The world shouldn't be just us vs them."  Before that, you said, "So much for blue lives matter for you folks.  Are you sure you guys are republicans?"

Since when is supporting law enforcement a GOP issue alone?  Hypocritical much?

EEF believes in red flags.  And HPD will always follow orders to enact a red flag confiscation.  Per their SOP in their handbook states SSD will be sent. 
We all know SSD is known to simply knock on doors and not kick them in.

HPD has not released a statement like Sheriff departments across the nation have that said such red flag laws are unconstitutional and will not enforce.  And seeming how they (brass) pushed for a rifle mag bill and not 1 uniformed officer spoke up nor any police union spoke up either.  Even though 12 uniformed brass, including Ballard showed up to support the mag bill when it was up for a vote.  HPD also had a part in the ghost gun law.  They actually made a P80 that cost $800 as a test to see how easy it was to do.  Major Neilson said this at the bills hearing.  I spoke and said it cost about $600, and he corrected me and said it cost them $800.  Must have all strike industries furniture.  Betting someone got to take the gun home after on our tax dollar.

Nobody put you in a box based off feelings. You put yourself there by coming into a pro-gun forum and spouting support for possibly the most anti gun administration in recent memory. It really shouldn’t be a surprise that you caught so much shit for it.

Also I’d have a lot more support for HPD if they weren’t actively against our 2nd amendment.

Valid points.  Though I doubt a single officer could go against the upper brass and not get fucked over. 

Yeah Brystont, I knew about that.  Didn't end up voting for Biden.  I am just trying to open up the gun community to more people and opinions.  We going to lose the war of culture at this rate.  The younger people think a little different and have different opinions on things like abortion and climate change.  To alienate that voting group is dooming us.

He's the king of hypothetical academic hogwash, trying (poorly) to play devil's advocate in nearly every thread.

It gets old after a few years.

Also, you just said, "The world shouldn't be just us vs them."  Before that, you said, "So much for blue lives matter for you folks.  Are you sure you guys are republicans?"

Since when is supporting law enforcement a GOP issue alone?  Hypocritical much?

Since you boxed in anti police with democrats in many of your previous comments.   Nothing wrong with devils advocate, helps you think of the other side. Less echo chamber.  I don't really see the  "hypothetical academic hogwash" you speak of. 

Also I’d have a lot more support for HPD if they weren’t actively against our 2nd amendment.

The fisheye clown was transparent when he first showed up, posting things in a clumsy attempt to get incriminating replies.

When exposed as a probable HPD instigator, he refused and probably still does, to state who he works for and profession.

HPD's hostility to firearm owners fits well with the fisheye troll's tries for evidence.

Since you boxed in anti police with democrats in many of your previous comments.   Nothing wrong with devils advocate, helps you think of the other side. Less echo chamber.  I don't really see the  "hypothetical academic hogwash" you speak of.

You're kinda new here, even though your brand of hogwash is EErily  familiar.   

Valid points.  Though I doubt a single officer could go against the upper brass and not get fucked over. 

Yeah Brystont, I knew about that.  Didn't end up voting for Biden.  I am just trying to open up the gun community to more people and opinions.  We going to lose the war of culture at this rate.  The younger people think a little different and have different opinions on things like abortion and climate change. To alienate that voting group is dooming us.

Let’s be clear here. YOU BELIEVE that that groups had different opinions on abortion and climate change. Where’s your proof? Yes, I know many in the “younger than me” to as young as 14-16 that don’t think the way you do. You’re so fast to discount opposing views as “group think”, but you’re “obviously” backed up by the masses of “younger people”.

I mean you’re free to think whatever you want to think. Just don’t expect those with common sense and life experiences to just simply take your word for it based on your opinions and feelings.

Valid points.  Though I doubt a single officer could go against the upper brass and not get fucked over. 

Yeah Brystont, I knew about that.  Didn't end up voting for Biden. I am just trying to open up the gun community to more people and opinions. We going to lose the war of culture at this rate.  The younger people think a little different and have different opinions on things like abortion and climate change.  To alienate that voting group is dooming us.

You decided all on your own that this is your mission?