But just because times change doesn't mean its wrong.  That's called evolution.  Languages change over time or we would be speaking old english or something.  I know what I was taught and learned over time.

Only 1 fakka on here has an English accent. 

Fakka- term of respect/friendship
Fucker- derogatory

I teach my son the same thing.  When I hear him talking slang, I tell him that may be ok for his friends but he better be using proper english when talking to adults, his teachers and school administration.  He knows enough to "switch modes" depending on his company.

I learned Pidgin English while I lived there. I could speak it pretty well, I believe. But I was working as a consultant and I felt I represented the company I was working for. So I made sure my proper English switch was always turned on at work. The younger generation obviously doesn’t feel it is that important. But I do. I believe people judge you by how you present yourself to them. There is always a certain level of judgement. It’s human nature. “It’s that simple”.

I learned Pidgin English while I lived there. I could speak it pretty well, I believe. But I was working as a consultant and I felt I represented the company I was working for. So I made sure my proper English switch was always turned on at work. The younger generation obviously doesn’t feel it is that important. But I do. I believe people judge you by how you present yourself to them. There is always a certain level of judgement. It’s human nature. “It’s that simple”.

And don't get a tattoo on your neck.

And don't get a tattoo on your neck.

Or all over your face

I mean I’m all about forms of expression and finding about the person. But facial tattoos isn’t something that will typically lead to a good first impression.

I learned Pidgin English while I lived there. I could speak it pretty well, I believe. But I was working as a consultant and I felt I represented the company I was working for. So I made sure my proper English switch was always turned on at work. The younger generation obviously doesn’t feel it is that important. But I do. I believe people judge you by how you present yourself to them. There is always a certain level of judgement. It’s human nature. “It’s that simple”.

I cringe every time I see Maui’s Mayor on TV. But even with his pidgin, he comes off as more intelligent than Kermie 

Or all over your face

I mean I’m all about forms of expression and finding about the person. But facial tattoos isn’t something that will typically lead to a good first impression.

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I learned Pidgin English while I lived there. I could speak it pretty well, I believe. But I was working as a consultant and I felt I represented the company I was working for. So I made sure my proper English switch was always turned on at work. The younger generation obviously doesn’t feel it is that important. But I do. I believe people judge you by how you present yourself to them. There is always a certain level of judgement. It’s human nature. “It’s that simple”.

The more and more people use it the more it becomes accepted.  Noticing it with new hires.  Eventually everyone is going to using it at this rate lol its a generational thing. 

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The more and more people use it the more it becomes accepted.  Noticing it with new hires.  Eventually everyone is going to using it at this rate lol its a generational thing.

That's either an educational system or parental failure. That doesn't broaden horizons, try getting a job outside of Hawaii with that kind of language and understanding.

I have to admit I have to switch back and forth between two different styles.  Sometimes I screw up.   I really hate to admit but I am reliant on spell check etc.  I've been using it so much especially on my phone that I am find it difficult not to.  If I talked to my friends my age or younger all proper they probably call me weird. I am young enough that I was taught doing internet speak is ok in a non professional setting.  I don't view this as professional setting and actually more comfortable speaking like this.  To each is their own.  I don't judge people off language as I know some may not speak it as a first language or be good at language in general.  You can be great in math and not in English.  Does not mean you are not intelligent.  I do get what you are saying though, perception is important and perhaps through my laziness I have not utilized this as well as I could have.  But not sure what I can do to repair this at this point here.

You say you see what I am saying. But obviously it is not important enough to you for you to be concerned. Is it too difficult for you to do? Laziness is not necessarily a good trait to have.

Just as I thought. I was not able to get through to you. Oh well. I tried. I hope that you don’t lose promotions and salary raises because perception is not important to you. I hope your life turns out the way you want it to in spite of your lack of introspection as to how you are perceived.

That's either an educational system or parental failure. That doesn't broaden horizons, try getting a job outside of Hawaii with that kind of language and understanding.

It is a failure. Unfortunately, Omni doesn’t see it that way. He has a job. He doesn’t need to better himself. He is literally forcing himself to be stuck in Hawaii. He won’t get a good job speaking like that outside the Hawaii bubble. Hawaii is not the big picture. Hawaii is a microcosm of the real world.

You say you see what I am saying. But obviously it is not important enough to you for you to be concerned. Is it too difficult for you to do? Laziness is not necessarily a good trait to have.

Just as I thought. I was not able to get through to you. Oh well. I tried. I hope that you don’t lose promotions and salary raises because perception is not important to you. I hope your life turns out the way you want it to in spite of your lack of introspection as to how you are perceived.

I actually use my laziness as an advantage.   I find the most efficient way to do things especially at work.  Saving time and money for everyone.   Efficiency means less downtime, things I need to do etc.  I dress professional and work fairly professional.   Must be working cause I'm up for promotions and almost topped out level wise.  This site however is not professional for me.  It's my way to relax.   Have fun.  Interesting  convos and learn a bit. 

But I understand what it are saying.   It's actually something I'm working on and you reminding me again means it's showing more.  Gotta correct some things in my life.  Thanks my goal in life is to make plenty money afterall lol

It is a failure. Unfortunately, Omni doesn’t see it that way. He has a job. He doesn’t need to better himself. He is literally forcing himself to be stuck in Hawaii. He won’t get a good job speaking like that outside the Hawaii bubble. Hawaii is not the big picture. Hawaii is a microcosm of the real world.

If my family and friends were to move i tbh would to.  But uprooting my whole life and world doesn't seem desirable.  I'm pretty settled down.  Doesn't stop my passion for the all mighty dollar though.  Maybe I should brush up my English more,  here and professionally.

I can articulate, but not enunciate so well.

Nothing wrong with having an accent if you can articulate your thoughts intelligently.

South, North East, upper Midwest, Texas.
They all have accents.

Even in my best English I still have a pidgin accent.

People on the Mainland when I go on business trips think I’m from Minnesota or Canada. (Cause the accent and I’m Haole)

This whole FIFY, LOL, IMHO, crap....I have to SMH.
That shits foreign language or Morse code.
And texting sucks if you are actually asking for a response.
Just call the MoFo.

Times they are a changing.....

I actually use my laziness as an advantage.   I find the most efficient way to do things especially at work.  Saving time and money for everyone.   Efficiency means less downtime, things I need to do etc.  I dress professional and work fairly professional.   Must be working cause I'm up for promotions and almost topped out level wise.  This site however is not professional for me.  It's my way to relax.   Have fun.  Interesting  convos and learn a bit. 

But I understand what it are saying.   It's actually something I'm working on and you reminding me again means it's showing more.  Gotta correct some things in my life.  Thanks my goal in life is to make plenty money afterall lol

I wish you all the luck in the world. I hope you become rich and successful. It is much harder to get there in Hawaii.  It’s not impossible. Just tougher.

I wish you all the luck in the world. I hope you become rich and successful. It is much harder to get there in Hawaii.  It’s not impossible. Just tougher.

I'm not poor, I"m Hawaii poor.  If I made the same in Montana, I'd live in a mansion.

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Mythology was accurate.   

You say you see what I am saying. But obviously it is not important enough to you for you to be concerned. Is it too difficult for you to do? Laziness is not necessarily a good trait to have.

Just as I thought. I was not able to get through to you. Oh well. I tried. I hope that you don’t lose promotions and salary raises because perception is not important to you. I hope your life turns out the way you want it to in spite of your lack of introspection as to how you are perceived.

I figured I should jump in here -- just to make sure others associate you with me!   

What OmniGun says is "evolution" of language is wrong.  It's actually "adaptation."  When I go home to NC or VA, I start to pick up my old Southern accent.  In Hawaii, I really don't have much of any accent.  In Northern states, or just when working around people raised in the North, I start to sound like they do.

People use language to adapt in order to fit in.  It's easier to communicate if we speak the same language the same way.

Language evolves very slowly over a very long time.  Trying to push the idea that poor use of a common language is "evolution" is intellectually lazy and false.  Is Pidgin considered an evolved version of English?  Cockney?  Ebonics?  Those are not "evolved" versions of English.  They are localized adaptations of the English language created by people who were uneducated about the language and passed the bad version onto others.

Evolution involves changing the core vocabulary, spellings, definitions and pronunciations.  Nobody is going to merge the Urban Dictionary with the Oxford English Dictionary and call it "evolution." 

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Evolution involves changing the core vocabulary, spellings, definitions and pronunciations.  Nobody is going to merge the Urban Dictionary with the Oxford English Dictionary and call it "evolution."

Preference 

I can articulate, but not enunciate so well.

Nothing wrong with having an accent if you can articulate your thoughts intelligently.

South, North East, upper Midwest, Texas.
They all have accents.

Even in my best English I still have a pidgin accent.

People on the Mainland when I go on business trips think I’m from Minnesota or Canada. (Cause the accent and I’m Haole)

This whole FIFY, LOL, IMHO, crap....I have to SMH.
That shits foreign language or Morse code.
And texting sucks if you are actually asking for a response.
Just call the MoFo.

Times they are a changing.....

There's lots of slang and stuff that I have to ask my friends' kids WTF they are talking about.  I mean I don't NEED to, but it does help in many regards.  Like WTF is SPED.