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What is your stance on abortion?

Under no circumstances allowed
29.6%
Under rape/incest
25.9%
Under Medical or Genetic issues.
7.4%
Personal choice
33.3%
Forced
3.7%
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Abortion (Read 227306 times)

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #500 on: December 29, 2020, 08:25:50 AM »
I just read the most interesting article.

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/satanic-temple-abortion-ritual-advertised-on-miami-billboard-11779916

With the freedom of religion being so paramount,  especially by the conservatives. This is an excellent way to practice it.  Even those in the forum can't argue with this rational. 

If you can preach freedom of religion to not get vaccines etc.  Than others can do the same for abortion.  I wonder how this relates to freedom of choice the anti-maskers preach. 

*edited* fixed link
« Last Edit: December 29, 2020, 12:57:17 PM by omnigun »
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Inspector

Re: Abortion
« Reply #501 on: December 29, 2020, 08:43:40 AM »
DON’T FEED THE TROLL
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changemyoil66

Re: Abortion
« Reply #502 on: December 29, 2020, 09:20:10 AM »
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #503 on: December 29, 2020, 12:26:41 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on December 29, 2020, 08:25:50 AM
I just read the most interesting article.

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/dirty-dozen-2020-miamis-worst-people-of-the-year-11787370

With the freedom of religion being so paramount,  especially by the conservatives. This is an excellent way to practice it.  Even those in the forum can't argue with this rational. 

If you can preach freedom of religion to not get vaccines etc.  Than others can do the same for abortion.  I wonder how this relates to freedom of choice the anti-maskers preach. 


https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/miami-new-times-2/

The link posted includes the word "abortion" zero times.

 :sleeping:

 :stopjack: :stopjack: :stopjack:
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #504 on: December 29, 2020, 12:53:57 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on December 29, 2020, 12:26:41 PM

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/miami-new-times-2/

The link posted includes the word "abortion" zero times.

 :sleeping:

 :stopjack: :stopjack: :stopjack:

My apologies not sure how the link didnt copy correct.

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/satanic-temple-abortion-ritual-advertised-on-miami-billboard-11779916

It's an article how Satanists have equal religious rights and can use said rights to enable abortion.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #505 on: December 29, 2020, 12:55:57 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on December 29, 2020, 12:53:57 PM
My apologies not sure how the link didnt copy correct.

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/satanic-temple-abortion-ritual-advertised-on-miami-billboard-11779916

Maybe you should hire an IT expert to train you on copy, paste and other software features of your devices and apps?
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #506 on: December 29, 2020, 01:00:49 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on December 29, 2020, 12:55:57 PM
Maybe you should hire an IT expert to train you on copy, paste and other software features of your devices and apps?

Another distraction from the substance of the topic.   Guess you can only comment on the ways I got the information not what is contained. 

 :stopjack:

Religious rights of Satanists is a valid reason to allow abortion.  Because the arguments of religious freedom. 
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #507 on: December 29, 2020, 01:06:25 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on December 29, 2020, 01:00:49 PM
Another distraction from the substance of the topic.   Guess you can only comment on the ways I got the information not what is contained. 

 :stopjack:

Religious rights of Satanists is a valid reason to allow abortion.  Because the arguments of religious freedom.

Religions are not granted a "Get Out of Jail Free" card to break the law.  If abortions are illegal after a certain point in the pregnancy, religious arguments will not make it legal.

People have tried that rationalization for all sorts of things, like polygamy, recreational drug use, child rape, etc.

The fact you find this "interesting" shows how little you know.  This is NOT a new concept.
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Inspector

Re: Abortion
« Reply #508 on: December 29, 2020, 01:10:30 PM »
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ren

Re: Abortion
« Reply #509 on: December 29, 2020, 01:11:54 PM »
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omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #510 on: December 29, 2020, 01:52:02 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on December 29, 2020, 01:06:25 PM
Religions are not granted a "Get Out of Jail Free" card to break the law.  If abortions are illegal after a certain point in the pregnancy, religious arguments will not make it legal.

People have tried that rationalization for all sorts of things, like polygamy, recreational drug use, child rape, etc.

The fact you find this "interesting" shows how little you know.  This is NOT a new concept.

Much of the argument against abortion is because Christianity and other similar religions are against it.  In many states forcing people to do un-needed "education".  Abortion is not illegal per supreme court.  This is a great way for people to practice abortion and religious freedom.  That way one religion doesn't force its ideals on others, like how it is currently happening.
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Inspector

Re: Abortion
« Reply #511 on: December 29, 2020, 01:53:39 PM »
FLAPP, DON’T FEED THE TROLL
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ren

Re: Abortion
« Reply #512 on: December 29, 2020, 01:59:21 PM »
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omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #513 on: December 29, 2020, 02:08:51 PM »
Quote from: Inspector on December 29, 2020, 01:53:39 PM
FLAPP, DON’T FEED THE TROLL

Interesting new strategy learned from the liberals.  Call everything they don't believe in a troll and ignore it. Cancel culture at its finest. And people wonder why people are getting more polarized.   :crazy:

I will never stop posting my thoughts and viewpoints,  I will not be part of the echo chamber.  Its your choice to read or respond.   Hopefully there are people on this forum either posters or lurkers who can gain other view points, a more center view point.  Not sure why many of you have resorted to spamming every message I write.  I am not trolling I just have a different viewpoint on life.  Different ideas.  If you don't believe in the same, that's fine.  But it doesn't make me a troll.  I agree with some viewpoints and things here.  Does that make everyone a troll too? 

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #514 on: December 29, 2020, 02:15:42 PM »
Quote from: Inspector on December 29, 2020, 01:53:39 PM
FLAPP, DON’T FEED THE TROLL

But, can't I at least troll the Troll?

 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :geekdanc:  :geekdanc:  :geekdanc:  :popcorn:  :popcorn:  :popcorn:
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aletheuo137

Re: Abortion
« Reply #515 on: December 29, 2020, 02:43:14 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on October 24, 2020, 10:48:16 PM
Doesn't exist as in being a human, sorry if I'm not explaining it well enough.  Its a bunch of cells until, its not.  But for me personally even when its human the mother or parents have a certain degree of choice still.
So you have a PhD in genetics? Are you an expert? I spent three years in a genetics research lab at John A. Burns school of medicine, and I can say you don't know what your talking about.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #516 on: December 29, 2020, 02:52:07 PM »
Quote from: aletheuo137 on December 29, 2020, 02:43:14 PM
So you have a PhD in genetics? Are you an expert? I spent three years in a genetics research lab at John A. Burns school of medicine, and I can say you don't know what your talking about.

He doesn't need to "know" anything to have an opinion.  He has Google. 

First link in the search results to confirm his bias wins.   :geekdanc:
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aletheuo137

Re: Abortion
« Reply #517 on: December 29, 2020, 02:53:11 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on December 29, 2020, 02:52:07 PM
He doesn't need to "know" anything to have an opinion.  He has Google. 

First link in the search results to confirm his bias wins.   :geekdanc:
Spaming him!

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omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #518 on: December 29, 2020, 02:56:18 PM »
Quote from: aletheuo137 on December 29, 2020, 02:43:14 PM
So you have a PhD in genetics? Are you an expert? I spent three years in a genetics research lab at John A. Burns school of medicine, and I can say you don't know what your talking about.

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Can you prove the fetus is sentient through your expertise?
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #519 on: December 29, 2020, 02:59:44 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on December 29, 2020, 02:56:18 PM
Can you prove the fetus is sentient through your expertise?

Can you prove it's NOT?

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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw
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