Poll

What is your stance on abortion?

Under no circumstances allowed
29.6%
Under rape/incest
25.9%
Under Medical or Genetic issues.
7.4%
Personal choice
33.3%
Forced
3.7%
Total Members Voted
27

Abortion (Read 227265 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #740 on: June 25, 2021, 03:57:42 PM »
I'm curious, would pro-lifers be ok with this compromise?

According to that poll:

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A total of 56% of respondents expressed belief that abortion should be mostly
or completely illegal in all cases, while 43% expressed support for partially or
completely banning it.

The answer to your question would be, it depends on who you ask.

Most pro-life advocates are okay with abortion in certain situations even beyond 3 months, such as when carrying to full term or birth puts the mother's life at risk.

Also, rape and incest are justifications most pro-lifers cite as reasonable for abortion if done soon enough, such as 1st trimester.  One of the main reasons rape victims are offered an "abortion pill" is so they are unlikely to have to make that choice and suffer the procedure.

Given what some states have been offering as new laws banning abortion after a heartbeat is present, I'd say the majority of pro-life advocates are okay with 1st trimester as a reasonable compromise.  At least then the argument that "it's just a clump of cells" is more supported than it would be in the 9th month.

Until science and the laws agree on a definition for when human life begins, this issue will never be settled.  Until we get that definitive answer, there are going to be those that take advantage and demand abortions without restrictions, and those who demand we err on the side of human rights and ban unnecessary abortions.
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: Abortion
« Reply #741 on: June 25, 2021, 03:58:11 PM »
Strong majority of Americans believe abortion should be restricted after three months of pregnancy

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/strong-majority-americans-believe-abortion-should-be-restricted-after-three-months

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not proven in a court of law...

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #742 on: June 25, 2021, 04:00:25 PM »
not proven in a court of law...

#Consensus>Proof
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aletheuo137

Re: Abortion
« Reply #743 on: June 25, 2021, 04:04:20 PM »
not proven in a court of law...
Fake news!

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macsak

Re: Abortion
« Reply #744 on: June 25, 2021, 04:06:00 PM »
Fake news!

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need to post "studies and graphs"...

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #745 on: June 25, 2021, 04:07:55 PM »
Omni pollutes these threads even when he's not posting.

Sad.

 :wacko: :crazy: :'( >:( :(
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aletheuo137

Re: Abortion
« Reply #746 on: June 25, 2021, 05:05:53 PM »
need to post "studies and graphs"...
And the many articles!

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aletheuo137

Re: Abortion
« Reply #747 on: June 25, 2021, 05:09:22 PM »
Omni pollutes these threads even when he's not posting.

Sad.

 :wacko: :crazy: :'( >:( :(
We're renting rooms to him in our head! Oh no!!!

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macsak

Re: Abortion
« Reply #748 on: June 25, 2021, 05:10:36 PM »
We're renting rooms to him in our head! Oh no!!!

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heads

ren

Re: Abortion
« Reply #749 on: June 25, 2021, 05:34:00 PM »
abortion is racist. More minorities seek out abortions than white people
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #750 on: June 25, 2021, 05:45:20 PM »
abortion is racist. More minorities seek out abortions than white people

The founder of Planned Parenthood made it the organization's mission to engage in eugenics by reducing the number of Black & Brown children in the country.  That's why the centers were opened in urban areas where most residents were minorities.

The Left finally admitted to her already well-known reputation as a racist after decades of Conservatives pointing out the fact that the group was created as a means to an immoral end.  They finally removed Margaret Sanger's name from the PP centers and removed her statues as a result of this "really old news".

Apparently it's okay to continue her work as long as you remove her as the figurehead.   :wacko:  This is like continuing to have forced labor and extermination camps for Jews after removing Hitler's legacy from the Nazi Party.  Same vehicle, new paint.

Remove statues of Margaret Sanger, Planned
Parenthood founder tied to eugenics and racism


https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/07/23/racism-eugenics-margaret-sanger-deserves-no-honors-column/5480192002/

Planned Parenthood in N.Y. Disavows Margaret Sanger Over Eugenics

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/21/nyregion/planned-parenthood-margaret-sanger-eugenics.html

Planned Parenthood’s canceling of its founder is
about saving face, not ‘reckoning’ with her legacy


https://www.liveaction.org/news/planned-parenthood-cancel-sanger-save-face/
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aletheuo137

Re: Abortion
« Reply #751 on: June 26, 2021, 08:03:36 AM »
heads
What exactly is meant by heads?

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macsak

Re: Abortion
« Reply #752 on: June 26, 2021, 10:20:41 AM »
What exactly is meant by heads?

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it's a stupid inside joke...

ren

Re: Abortion
« Reply #753 on: June 26, 2021, 10:34:09 AM »
What exactly is meant by heads?

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Its the term snooty, SJWs, liberal, scream-at-sky reloaders use for bullets.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #754 on: June 26, 2021, 10:45:54 AM »
it's a stupid inside joke...

And, of course, everyone on the forum MUST be in on the joke, or he wouldn't use it so often.

 :crazy:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

groveler

Re: Abortion
« Reply #755 on: June 26, 2021, 12:04:50 PM »
Its the term snooty, SJWs, liberal, scream-at-sky reloaders use for bullets.
I here I thought it was " Heads we win, tails, you Lose".

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #756 on: June 26, 2021, 12:54:56 PM »
I here I thought it was " Heads we win, tails, you Lose".

Nope.  That would actually be based on something at least marginally coherent.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aletheuo137

Re: Abortion
« Reply #757 on: June 26, 2021, 02:22:28 PM »
And, of course, everyone on the forum MUST be in on the joke, or he wouldn't use it so often.

 :crazy:
Sorry late comer to the forum. Couldn't find it in the search engine

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oldfart

Re: Abortion
« Reply #758 on: June 26, 2021, 02:59:09 PM »
In the world of ammo, the head is the butt side.

When I first joined this group, Ren spanked me for using the term head instead of bullet.
Prior to that I was using the term head (bullet) since 1962. So I had to unlearn decades of habit.

Personally, I'm not sure why we toss it around here.
The best explanation I can think of would be that it's like a fart.
You deploy it when you have nothing useful to contribute and need to interject some humor into the conversation.
Macsak started it, I'm pretty sure.
What, Me Worry?

ren

Re: Abortion
« Reply #759 on: June 26, 2021, 03:20:34 PM »
since we are in abortion thread...if you made a mistake on a batch of ammo you reloaded do you throw away the whole batch or disassemble/abort (cue Johhny5) each one?
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