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What is your stance on abortion?

Under no circumstances allowed
29.6%
Under rape/incest
25.9%
Under Medical or Genetic issues.
7.4%
Personal choice
33.3%
Forced
3.7%
Total Members Voted
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Abortion (Read 227212 times)

macsak

Re: Abortion
« Reply #900 on: September 02, 2021, 08:57:19 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on September 02, 2021, 08:35:52 PM
Supreme Court said abortion is a constitutional right.  Stay made bro. It's right up there with the right to be armed.

Man you must live a exceedingly hard life.  Probably have commercials asking people to donate to you too help you out.

"reputable"...
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Glasser

Re: Abortion
« Reply #901 on: September 02, 2021, 09:21:09 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on September 02, 2021, 08:35:52 PM
Supreme Court said abortion is a constitutional right.  Stay mad bro. It's right up there with the right to be armed.

Man you must live a exceedingly hard life.  Probably have commercials asking people to donate to you too help you out.


name the case, every supreme court case has a name, you should be able to google it. Hurry up.











and when you try Roe vs. Wade you will find that was a medical Privacy case, has nothing specifically to do with abortion. there is a huge fear that R v W will be overturned if pushed. And thats exactly why they lied and said Kavanaugh is a Solo Cup Rapist.



Keep being a stupid liar.


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Glasser

Re: Abortion
« Reply #902 on: September 02, 2021, 09:26:03 PM »
Other irony is all this COVID BS is trying to break Medical Privacy and could torpedo R v W by accident because Liberals are stupid.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #903 on: September 02, 2021, 09:37:56 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on September 02, 2021, 08:35:52 PM
Supreme Court said abortion is a constitutional right.  Stay mad bro. It's right up there with the right to be armed.

Man you must live a exceedingly hard life.  Probably have commercials asking people to donate to you too help you out.

I find it ridiculous that in the 2 centuries prior to Roe v. Wade, the "individual Constitutionally protected right to abortion" escaped the notice of every single judicial and legal scholar in all 50 states.  That's 200 years of a right going totally unrecognized, then finally "discovered" by a Liberal-leaning Supreme Court in a split decision and using some very shaky and flimsy legal arguments regarding privacy.

Amazing.   :crazy:

If Roe v Wade were overturned today, the only thing that would change is states would be tasked with defining how abortions are to be made legal and illegal.  The "right" would still be protected in states where abortions remain legal and unrestricted.  And, just like all other "rights", simply applying restrictions doesn't a ban make.
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #904 on: September 02, 2021, 09:38:59 PM »
Quote from: Glasser on September 02, 2021, 09:21:09 PM

name the case, every supreme court case has a name, you should be able to google it. Hurry up.



and when you try Roe vs. Wade you will find that was a medical Privacy case, has nothing specifically to do with abortion. there is a huge fear that R v W will be overturned if pushed. And thats exactly why they lied and said Kavanaugh is a Solo Cup Rapist.



Keep being a stupid liar.


Roe v Wade still counts.  Stay mad.
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omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #905 on: September 02, 2021, 09:39:55 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on September 02, 2021, 09:37:56 PM
I find it ridiculous that in the 2 centuries prior to Roe v. Wade, the "individual Constitutionally protected right to abortion" escaped the notice of every single judicial and legal scholar in all 50 states.  That's 200 years of a right going totally unrecognized, then finally "discovered" by a Liberal-leaning Supreme Court in a split decision and using some very shaky and flimsy legal arguments regarding privacy.

Amazing.   :crazy:

If Roe v Wade were overturned today, the only thing that would change is states would be tasked with defining how abortions are to be made legal and illegal.  The "right" would still be protected in states where abortions remain legal and unrestricted.  And, just like all other "rights", simply applying restrictions doesn't a ban make.

Maybe the founders/predecessors couldn't imagine such a wonderful tool would be available.  Much like cellphones and nukes. Thats why the wrote it so broad.  Much like the 2nd amendment.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #906 on: September 02, 2021, 09:41:23 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on September 02, 2021, 09:38:59 PM

Roe v Wade still counts.  Stay mad.

Sounds like you are the mad one, brah!  Whining about Texas and the fact that not everyone agrees with you -- actually more disagree than agree.

So, if anyone is staying mad, it's you .... and nobody has to tell you to "stay".

LOL!!   :geekdanc: :geekdanc:
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #907 on: September 02, 2021, 09:42:59 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on September 02, 2021, 09:39:55 PM
Maybe the founders/predecessors couldn't imagine such a wonderful tool would be available.  Much like cellphones and nukes. Thats why the wrote it so broad.  Much like the 2nd amendment.

200 years ..... long after the Founders were gone from the Earth.

Swoosh!

LOL!
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Glasser

Re: Abortion
« Reply #908 on: September 02, 2021, 09:45:01 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on September 02, 2021, 09:38:59 PM

Roe v Wade still counts.  Stay mad.


counts for what? what was the SCOTUS decision? its a lot of reading I doubt you are up to it. but give it a shot. tell us all what the Court decided.
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omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #909 on: September 02, 2021, 10:12:12 PM »
Quote from: Glasser on September 02, 2021, 09:45:01 PM

counts for what? what was the SCOTUS decision? its a lot of reading I doubt you are up to it. but give it a shot. tell us all what the Court decided.

Yes it was a SCOTUS decision...
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aieahound

Re: Abortion
« Reply #910 on: September 02, 2021, 10:14:01 PM »
So when will the Supreme Court decide when a life is a life and when it’s murder ?

Ponder little bit.
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Glasser

Re: Abortion
« Reply #911 on: September 02, 2021, 10:23:05 PM »
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aieahound

Re: Abortion
« Reply #912 on: September 02, 2021, 10:27:09 PM »
Quote from: aieahound on September 02, 2021, 10:14:01 PM
So when will the Supreme Court decide when a life is a life and when it’s murder ?

Ponder little bit.
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Glasser

Re: Abortion
« Reply #913 on: September 02, 2021, 10:31:56 PM »
Quote from: aieahound on September 02, 2021, 10:14:01 PM
So when will the Supreme Court decide when a life is a life and when it’s murder ?

Ponder little bit.

I know you know, but for the people with a learning disability and the memory of a goldfish, the SCOTUS decides which of the arguments brought before it are valid within the law and follow the Constitution. Arguing when that moment is a tough one to pull off.

But the TX case is a huge deal because the SCOTUS just said State law on the issue is none of the Feds business. And that is a big deal. The myth that 'R v W is the law of the land' just got kicked in the nuts.

Short versions as I understand it are

R v W - 'Its not the governments business what medical procedures a person chooses to have"

TX case - 'Its not the Feds business what laws on this issue the states decide to pass"
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aieahound

Re: Abortion
« Reply #914 on: September 02, 2021, 10:34:21 PM »
It’s a way bigger deal because of the way they approached it.
.sinister or brilliant? I don’t know.
Only civil penalties (or victories) by everyone (or no one), but no criminal penalties……
« Last Edit: September 02, 2021, 10:40:45 PM by aieahound »
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Glasser

Re: Abortion
« Reply #915 on: September 02, 2021, 10:38:03 PM »
Quote from: aieahound on September 02, 2021, 10:34:21 PM
It’s a way bigger deal because of the way they approached it.
.sinister or brilliant. I don’t know.

Paxton is no joke, he is creative as hell. his attempt to sue other states for ruining the country (and therefore his state) by letting rigged elections get certified was brilliant and had a real shot, the SCOTUS were pussies and punted so they didnt have to touch it and hear the arguments.
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aieahound

Re: Abortion
« Reply #916 on: September 02, 2021, 10:42:10 PM »
Point:

Only civil penalties (or victories/ losses) by everyone and anyone (or no one), but no criminal penalties……
Everyone has standing.
For a criminal offense.
Unconstitutional?

Shit’s mind bending.
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Glasser

Re: Abortion
« Reply #917 on: September 02, 2021, 10:47:03 PM »
Hillary said it takes a Village to raise a child.

Now the Village can sue you for killing that kid.
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aieahound

Re: Abortion
« Reply #918 on: September 02, 2021, 10:49:24 PM »
Is this the wave of future law making ?
I don’t care who invented the playbook.
Shit’s disturbing, preponderance of evidence?

Edited after below post:
Literally someone else has to shit on you whose not the State ?
« Last Edit: September 02, 2021, 10:56:55 PM by aieahound »
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Glasser

Re: Abortion
« Reply #919 on: September 02, 2021, 10:54:48 PM »
Not that long ago Dems were pushing for 'abortion' to be legally performed literally after the child left the mothers womb. Virginia was saying they wanted to let the mother decide whether to kill it or not after delivery.

I am not sure who is the sinister folks in this equation. TX seems to be fighting fire with fire when idiots want to get extreme beyond any sensible measure.

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