The wifey watched this and said it’s pretty good.



Joe Rogan talks about it on his show also.

I think it was interesting but the tone was a little too fear mongering for my tastes. It made some good points that I would have liked to be explored more, like how social media may be changing the current generation of teenagers.

Beyond that, i feel like it was putting the blame on the companies where often (but not always) it should be on the users. Companies always try to make a product that we will like better. As long as they aren't putting cocaine in my hamburger then it is my own fault if I overeat hamburgers. So sure, maybe I get a little pleasure sensation from seeing someone clicked like on my post but it is still my choice to stare at my phone or do something else.

Thanks for the feedback.  My wife said it’s a bit dark. Planning to watch it this weekend.

It’s pretty accurate.  How did Google, Facebook, Instagram, and Youtube become multi-billion dollar companies without making a tangible products?  What do they sell?  They sell access to you.

Many friends told me to watch that. But how do I know it’s not some mind bending subliminal thing in there.

Haha, mostly kidding. Mostly. I’m not in CMO’s tinfoil club. 

It’s pretty accurate.  How did Google, Facebook, Instagram, and Youtube become multi-billion dollar companies without making a tangible products?  What do they sell?  They sell access to you.

True but that's the capitalist way.

True but that's the capitalist way.

Consumers have a choice. No one is forcing anyone to have any social media account. Unfortunately all the mindless lemmings on FB, Twitter and the like are tying this to a First Amendment issue.

Consumers have a choice. No one is forcing anyone to have any social media account. Unfortunately all the mindless lemmings on FB, Twitter and the like are tying this to a First Amendment issue.

Yes, people have choices.  Unfortunately, when faced with few alternatives which may not offer the same type of product, the choice is more difficult.

I was able to plan and coordinate a class reunion in NC from Hawaii mainly because FB existed.  Without it, and without everyone in my HS graduating class being members, the planning and execution of the reunion would have been difficult, and resulted in a less impressive affair with maybe half the attendees.

FB now has some competition.  I see FB being used sometimes to recruit family and friends to join other platforms without all the hogwash of FB.

Yes, FB sells information about their members.  It started out being aggregated, anonymous numbers to be used in a variety of analytic algorithms.  Then they started selling lists of user information without letting users opt out -- a very big no-no. 

At this point, they can do whatever they want.  If/when they get caught doing something illegal or unethical, they just issue a half-asses apology, explain it away as a "mistake" or individual low-level employee (scapegoat), and carry on with no repercussions.

Until people feel like there is a replacement for FB, not just a viable alternative, I don't think FB is going anywhere.

I closed both my FB and Twitter accounts years ago.  So far, I've not noticed anything really missing from my life because of it .... other than higher blood pressure.   

Consumers have a choice. No one is forcing anyone to have any social media account. Unfortunately all the mindless lemmings on FB, Twitter and the like are tying this to a First Amendment issue.

Yes no one is forcing you to have one, but it is a first amendment issue you cant force someone to not have one.  Or to post or write whatever they feel like saying.  As long as not illegal.  Don't police the internet.  I am 100% behind the off hands approach of many tech companies and I think that trump trying to make them responsible for what people post is the worst idea of his presidency. 

Yes no one is forcing you to have one, but it is a first amendment issue you cant force someone to not have one.  Or to post or write whatever they feel like saying.  As long as not illegal.  Don't police the internet.  I am 100% behind the off hands approach of many tech companies and I think that trump trying to make them responsible for what people post is the worst idea of his presidency.

what the pho are you talking about. Did you watch the trailer?

Aren't you into "cloud" tech. One can easily build a website without going into FB or Twatter.

what the pho are you talking about. Did you watch the trailer?

Aren't you into "cloud" tech. One can easily build a website without going into FB or Twatter.

Reads like he's already started Pau Hana Happy Hour ...       

what the pho are you talking about. Did you watch the trailer?

Aren't you into "cloud" tech. One can easily build a website without going into FB or Twatter.

That's not exactly "cloud" but sure why not.  You are correct you can build your own website.  Users can use  it.  But just like the big companies you are not responsible for users post.  Imagine if you were...

Consumers have a choice. No one is forcing anyone to have any social media account. Unfortunately all the mindless lemmings on FB, Twitter and the like are tying this to a First Amendment issue.

Responded to this....

The wifey watched this and said it’s pretty good.

Joe Rogan talks about it on his show also.

I do agree slightly with Jl808, this stuff is distributing to a degree how much of your life is effected by technology.  But at the same time that's personal choice. 

That's not exactly "cloud" but sure why not.  You are correct you can build your own website.  Users can use  it.  But just like the big companies you are not responsible for users post.  Imagine if you were...

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I do agree slightly with Jl808, this stuff is distributing to a degree how much of your life is effected by technology.  But at the same time that's personal choice.

You got me. What is cloud?

You got me. What is cloud?

"Cloud"
Is really a return to the old days where everybody operated off a single mainframe
computer system.  It is just the I/O access and terminals are different.
That is the Occam's razor explanation.
My education is Computer science, not software engineering,
so I see computers from a more theoretical, mathematical point of view.
Although I worked as a software and electronics engineer for years.
This whole social media problem isn't the fault of the machine or the data
it contains, it is a failure of society to mature and use a tool safely.
It is like giving a locked and loaded M-4 rifle to a three year old and expecting
no problems.
These data processing systems are powerful tools and they will only get better!
This is not a Facebook or Twitter problem( neither of which I use BTW) this
is a people problem. That is where the solution lies.
I don't know what the solution is, but I know ignorance,
is our biggest enemy.

"Cloud"
Is really a return to the old days where everybody operated off a single mainframe
computer system.  It is just the I/O access and terminals are different.
That is the Occam's razor explanation.
My education is Computer science, not software engineering,
so I see computers from a more theoretical, mathematical point of view.
Although I worked as a software and electronics engineer for years.
This whole social media problem isn't the fault of the machine or the data
it contains, it is a failure of society to mature and use a tool safely.
It is like giving a locked and loaded M-4 rifle to a three year old and expecting
no problems.
These data processing systems are powerful tools and they will only get better!
This is not a Facebook or Twitter problem( neither of which I use BTW) this
is a people problem. That is where the solution lies.
I don't know what the solution is, but I know ignorance,
is our biggest enemy.

Exactly.

Every Computer professional (now labeled "IT") who "grew up" in the age of IBM mainframes and remote terminals -- many using telephone modems -- understands that "the cloud" is not new.  It's only new to people in their 20's who think everything they know began in their lifetime, particularly technology.

Cloud Computing was invented in the early 1960s by J.C.R Licklider (Joseph Carl Robnett Licklider),
an American Psychologist and Computer Scientist. During his network research work on ARPANet
(Advanced Research Project Agency Network), trying to connect people and data all around the world,
gave an introduction to Cloud Computing technique which we all know today. Born on March 11th,
1915 in St. Louis, Missouri, US, J.C.R Licklider pursued his initial studies from Washington University
in 1937 and received a BA Degree with three specializations including physics, maths, psychology.
Later in the year 1938, Licklider completed his MA in psychology and received his Ph.D. from the
University of Rochester in the year 1942. His interest in Information Technology and looking at his
years of service in different areas and achievements, made his appointed as Head of IPTO at ARPA
(US Department of Defense Advanced Research Project Agency) in the Year 1962. His aim led to
ARPANet, a forerunner of today’s Internet.

The popularity of the term "The Cloud" gained momentum as Internet "experts" briefed their system
designs having a large cloud-looking drawing to represent all the various data and application stores
available globally using the Internet and private VPN connections.

I actually had a ARPANET account in 1990-1992 using MILNET access.  Not many resources available for anyone who didn't already have access to a facility or server.  Mostly used it to connect between my database servers in Virginia and those in Mississippi for a specific project. 

Of course, when you're running at 300-1200 baud, you really don't WANT access to very much information!   

I also used the network to connect between my laptop in S. Korea and the Hickam AFB workstation I set up to pass code changes and emails.  This was long before any email networks existed without paying for a CompuServe or America Online (AOL) subscription.  Even so, you could only email to subscribers on the same network service.

Once the Internet became the World Wide Web (not synonyms), and TCP/IP became the standard network protocol, the global availability of resources grew exponentially.

IT "experts" in their 20s are able to learn what is in place today, but  they missed out on what came before -- which helps us understand not only how, but why, something works.

I'm amazed at what one aspect of this technology gets so much fanfare. I'm only fascinated with the tangible aspects of it.
It really is amazing that there is so much focus on the "digital graffiti" that is what social media is. Nothing but text.  I think the real power is in all the different APIs that connect one app to another or to another layer of hardware. I like Raspberry Pis for their GPIO pins. A line of text and then a simple pulse to a FET and there you have a tech pet that will do your bidding.
But let's focus on the attention deficit disorder tags along the "information highway". Let's riot on memes. Let's get angry by reading 1 second graf tags.

You got me. What is cloud?

Groveler explained it pretty well.  Basically in the beginning everything was unified as separation of computing resources was not possible.  Over time technology moved more to de centralization as compute power grew and became more portable.  Everyone wanted their own systems.  Datacenters shrank and multiplied.  Now as time progressed people are now centralizing again.  Taking care of datacenters and equipment is a pain of IT.  There lacks efficiency, every building/company runs their own servers, meaning backups, cooling, networking, security and everything has to be capable and maintained.  As time progressed I am assuming people grew tired of this and there's are many risks and expenses and centralization is a solution.  Software as a service is gaining popularity, you don't have to worry about maintenance, security, even sometimes programming.  That is all taken care of you.  Amazon, Microsoft and Google spend billions on infrastructure and security.  No small or midsized company could come close to that.  Costs more but costs are balanced over time instead of upfront.  Centralization has other benefits with latency and efficiency not only laziness.  With services located closer there's less communication lag.  You can have higher bandwidth.  Its also far easier to scale.  Redundancy is also greatly improved. My job is mostly management and conversion to cloud resources.  AKA moving and living the cloud.

As we know from Snowden the big social media companies are tied in with the intelligence agencies. It is the next phase of MKULTRA to develop behavior modification software. They reward you for thinking a certain way and punish you for going off script. How do you think we got the army of irrational liberals to believe total nonsense that is easily disprovable? They were programmed. The next step is a social credit system like China, and you can see them already rolling it out. Notice how the subject of microchips is being brought up again?

Imagine how wonderful it will be to take your social media account everywhere. Just watch what you say...

https://www.hourdetroit.com/technology-topics/why-some-tech-enthusiasts-are-getting-microchips-implanted-in-their-bodies/