“The Social Dilemma” documentary (Read 12688 times)

omnigun

Re: “The Social Dilemma” documentary
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2020, 11:12:04 AM »
I am waiting for VR to the point indistinguable from reality. Always wanted a life of a video game.  Embrace the tech lol

Flapp_Jackson

Re: “The Social Dilemma” documentary
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2020, 11:16:42 AM »
I am waiting for VR to the point indistinguable from reality. Always wanted a life of a video game.  Embrace the tech lol

You're already more than halfway there....You think the fantasyland you live in is reality.   :crazy:

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indistinguable ??
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: “The Social Dilemma” documentary
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2020, 11:41:40 AM »
You're already more than halfway there....You think the fantasyland you live in is reality.   :crazy:

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indistinguable ??

Indistinguishable*

The pot calling the kettle black if that's the case

Flapp_Jackson

Re: “The Social Dilemma” documentary
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2020, 11:49:42 AM »
Indistinguishable*

The pot calling the kettle black if that's the case

You're learning bad habits from A**Hole.

My life is 100% grounded in reality.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: “The Social Dilemma” documentary
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2020, 01:37:02 PM »
You're learning bad habits from A**Hole.

My life is 100% grounded in reality.

Some things sure, but you yourself can't see it because of your views.  The way you hate the left, the left hates you just as much.  Neither of you are ground in reality.  Your positons are all too extreme and clouds your judgment. 

hvybarrels

Re: “The Social Dilemma” documentary
« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2020, 02:18:36 PM »
Some things sure, but you yourself can't see it because of your views.  The way you hate the left, the left hates you just as much.  Neither of you are ground in reality.  Your positons are all too extreme and clouds your judgment.

Only one side is looting, burning down cities, and attacking people because they support a different candidate.
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: “The Social Dilemma” documentary
« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2020, 02:19:26 PM »
Some things sure, but you yourself can't see it because of your views.  The way you hate the left, the left hates you just as much.  Neither of you are ground in reality.  Your positons are all too extreme and clouds your judgment.

When did I ever say I hate the left?

Please be specific, as in a quote.

My positions are extreme?  LOL!  Like unlimited, unrestricted abortion on demand is "moderate?"
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: “The Social Dilemma” documentary
« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2020, 02:50:04 PM »
Only one side is looting, burning down cities, and attacking people because they support a different candidate.

Are we going to ignore the fact that one side tried to kidnap an governor?  Both sides have bad people...

omnigun

Re: “The Social Dilemma” documentary
« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2020, 02:53:08 PM »
When did I ever say I hate the left?

Please be specific, as in a quote.

My positions are extreme?  LOL!  Like unlimited, unrestricted abortion on demand is "moderate?"

Not sure if you literally said those words, but if link millions of reasons why Biden and the left did X wrong clearly you don't approve...
You are a huge Trump supporter thats right wing,  you believe so far most right wing ideas.  Are you saying you are an independent moderate?

I have some "extreme" views on both sides. I admit it.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: “The Social Dilemma” documentary
« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2020, 03:06:42 PM »
Are we going to ignore the fact that one side tried to kidnap an governor?  Both sides have bad people...

That was the other "side?"  Since when?

That group's stated purpose was to kidnap the governor, overthrow the state's government, and replace it with one under martial law.

Please tell us all ... where on the Conservative Right's "side" have there been calls for overthrowing the government?  If anything, the LEFT is doing that with calls to defund the police, Leftist prosecutors refusing to press charges for riots, assaults and property damage, etc, etc.

Do you have any evidence the kidnappers were even right wing at all?

Maybe this?

Guy Who Tried To KIDNAP Democrat Governor Was BLM Supporter,
Left And Right Are MEANINGLESS Now





The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: “The Social Dilemma” documentary
« Reply #30 on: October 17, 2020, 03:11:20 PM »
Are we going to ignore the fact that one side tried to kidnap an governor?  Both sides have bad people...

which side tried to kidnap a governor?

omnigun

Re: “The Social Dilemma” documentary
« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2020, 03:13:19 PM »
which side tried to kidnap a governor?

From the news I gathered most had right wing views.  So right?
Both sides have their bad apples, proud boys picking fights.  BLM burning shit down.  etc etc etc

Flapp_Jackson

Re: “The Social Dilemma” documentary
« Reply #32 on: October 17, 2020, 03:18:53 PM »
From the news I gathered most had right wing views.  So right?
Both sides have their bad apples, proud boys picking fights.  BLM burning shit down.  etc etc etc

WRONG WRONG WRONG


Guy Who Tried To KIDNAP Democrat Governor Was BLM Supporter,
Left And Right Are MEANINGLESS Now

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: “The Social Dilemma” documentary
« Reply #33 on: October 17, 2020, 03:26:05 PM »
From the news I gathered most had right wing views.  So right?
Both sides have their bad apples, proud boys picking fights.  BLM burning shit down.  etc etc etc

holy shit, you believed the original MSM stories?
you are a dumbass
the (democratic) governor said they were white supremacists inspired by trump, and everyone ran with it

in actuality, they were anarchists
they are antigovernment LEFTISTS

Flapp_Jackson

Re: “The Social Dilemma” documentary
« Reply #34 on: October 17, 2020, 03:27:38 PM »
holy shit, you believed the original MSM stories?
you are a dumbass
the (democratic) governor said they were white supremacists inspired by trump, and everyone ran with it

in actuality, they were anarchists
they are antigovernment LEFTISTS

Facts over what he believes will never fly.

You need to explore others' feelings and accept THEIR truth.   :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: “The Social Dilemma” documentary
« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2020, 03:27:54 PM »
holy shit, you believed the original MSM stories?
you are a dumbass
the (democratic) governor said they were white supremacists inspired by trump, and everyone ran with it

in actuality, they were anarchists
they are antigovernment LEFTISTS

virginia's (democratic) governor had a press conference a few  days later, and even he didn't try and blame the right
he just implied it by saying "armed militia" were planning to kidnap him

drck1000

Re: “The Social Dilemma” documentary
« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2020, 04:03:07 PM »
Facts over what he believes will never fly.

You need to explore others' feelings and accept THEIR truth.   :rofl:

virginia's (democratic) governor had a press conference a few  days later, and even he didn't try and blame the right
he just implied it by saying "armed militia" were planning to kidnap him
Don’t confuse with fact

Heavies

Re: “The Social Dilemma” documentary
« Reply #37 on: October 18, 2020, 07:10:13 PM »
Consumers have a choice. No one is forcing anyone to have any social media account. Unfortunately all the mindless lemmings on FB, Twitter and the like are tying this to a First Amendment issue.

Everyone flocks to these social media websites.  If you want to put out a message, then this is where you need to put it.  It IS the 21st century public square, and the left has figured it out.  They are censoring any message that does not align with their message.

Facebook pisses me off every time I log in, but weather it, to attempt to get the message out, especially to public pages, such as local "news" outlets.  If you let them turn it into a echo chamber, ALL IS LOST.

"he who controls the mob, controls Rome" (fake movie quote, but is a reality)

If these social media outlets are going to be the new public square, then 1A should apply, doesn't matter if a private company owns it.   If they are going to censor and control, then they need to be held 100% accountable for what content in on there, including any calls for violence and mayhem from either side. 

I look at it like this forum.  We control and edit, to the best of our ability, to make sure there is no illegal or destructive content, purely out of responsibility for the furtherance of the 2A cause, as per the goals of 2A Hawaii.   We don't claim to be a "public square" in one breath, then censor possible other views on the other. 





And there lies that slippery slope, Say, if government starts to heavily regulate, this page and all like it would have to shut down, out of fear for lawsuit.  We make ZERO dollars here, we have no means to fight at that point.... 

omnigun

Re: “The Social Dilemma” documentary
« Reply #38 on: October 18, 2020, 08:10:03 PM »
Everyone flocks to these social media websites.  If you want to put out a message, then this is where you need to put it.  It IS the 21st century public square, and the left has figured it out.  They are censoring any message that does not align with their message.

Facebook pisses me off every time I log in, but weather it, to attempt to get the message out, especially to public pages, such as local "news" outlets.  If you let them turn it into a echo chamber, ALL IS LOST.

"he who controls the mob, controls Rome" (fake movie quote, but is a reality)

If these social media outlets are going to be the new public square, then 1A should apply, doesn't matter if a private company owns it.   If they are going to censor and control, then they need to be held 100% accountable for what content in on there, including any calls for violence and mayhem from either side. 

I look at it like this forum.  We control and edit, to the best of our ability, to make sure there is no illegal or destructive content, purely out of responsibility for the furtherance of the 2A cause, as per the goals of 2A Hawaii.   We don't claim to be a "public square" in one breath, then censor possible other views on the other. 

And there lies that slippery slope, Say, if government starts to heavily regulate, this page and all like it would have to shut down, out of fear for lawsuit.  We make ZERO dollars here, we have no means to fight at that point....

Facebook ain't as biased as you say.  But lets run with this.  Lets say you judge them as public square.  Stripping them of all their 1st amendment and corporations are people rights.  They are now liable for what people post.  They will let no one post.  If anyone posts anything bad they will get sued.  If trump says covid isn't that bad and someone dies they can now sue Facebook for lies.  If some Antifa guy posts that they going to do a gathering someone and it turns violent, Facebook gonna get sued.  Basically every "social media" company will go bankrupt. There will be NO free speech because citizens cant speak.  And 100% its a slippery slope and would doom this site.  We need to keep America free, even if it means people can say stupid shit online.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: “The Social Dilemma” documentary
« Reply #39 on: October 18, 2020, 09:45:05 PM »
Facebook ain't as biased as you say.  But lets run with this.  Lets say you judge them as public square.  Stripping them of all their 1st amendment and corporations are people rights.  They are now liable for what people post.  They will let no one post.  If anyone posts anything bad they will get sued.  If trump says covid isn't that bad and someone dies they can now sue Facebook for lies.  If some Antifa guy posts that they going to do a gathering someone and it turns violent, Facebook gonna get sued.  Basically every "social media" company will go bankrupt. There will be NO free speech because citizens cant speak.  And 100% its a slippery slope and would doom this site.  We need to keep America free, even if it means people can say stupid shit online.

First amendment means people are allowed to say stupid, false and ignorant things.  The whole idea of freedom and liberty is that we must tolerate people who say things we don't like.
 Only in certain exceptions is that speech breaking any laws, so it's allowed.

If you, or FB or anyone else thinks that kind of speech should be suppressed, then YOU are against the 1st Amendment's intent.

Yes, a private person or corporation can censor anyone using their resources for expressing their ideas.  However, the corporation has no 1st Amendment protections while doing that.  If, however, the corporate resources constitute a "platform" with a free and open exchange of ideas, then the 1st Amendment applies, as it does with Newspapers and other journalism outlets.

You can't violate the 1st Amendment's purpose on your site, then cry that the gov't is violating YOUR 1st Amendment rights.  That's a pathetic argument.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw