Keltec KSG Shotgun (Read 4725 times)

seraphedward

Keltec KSG Shotgun
« on: October 19, 2020, 02:33:05 AM »
Anyone have any feedback on the Keltec KSG shotgun? I know in the beginning the had issues...but what about lately?

Good weapon for home defense?

Thank you for any feedback?

RSN172

Re: Keltec KSG Shotgun
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2020, 06:26:54 AM »
I was at one time, very interested in getting one.  But now I think a semiauto would be better and I see a
IWI Tavor TS12 in my future.  I have no experience shooting a KSG, only handled it at Tokunaga’s in Hilo.
Their price was $100 cheaper than what I saw it selling for at a LGS on OAHU.
Happily living in Puna

Antithesis

Re: Keltec KSG Shotgun
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2020, 09:50:26 AM »
I've been fascinated with this firearm for quite some time. I've never handled one myself, but the short bullpup design plus the 14+1 capacity and the option to shoot two different types of shotgun rounds is super appealing. The only issue I've seen with the KSG in reviews is short-stroking, which has largely been attributed to people who are accustomed to traditional shotguns trying to use the same muscle memory on the KSG.

This is on my wish list of future purchases for sure.
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changemyoil66

Re: Keltec KSG Shotgun
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2020, 11:50:44 AM »
The pumping takes some getting used to.  And it can fit almost 1 mag (30rds) worth of mini shot shells.

Overall, I personally would not buy one.

RSN172

Re: Keltec KSG Shotgun
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2020, 12:04:30 PM »
Short stroking any pump shotgun in a high stress situation is the reason I would get a semi-auto.
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macsak

Re: Keltec KSG Shotgun
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2020, 12:07:02 PM »
The pumping takes some getting used to. And it can fit almost 1 mag (30rds) worth of mini shot shells.

Overall, I personally would not buy one.

that's what she said

changemyoil66

Re: Keltec KSG Shotgun
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2020, 12:12:09 PM »
Short stroking any pump shotgun in a high stress situation is the reason I would get a semi-auto.

The IWI one looks badass. I forgot the name. But has 3 tubes of 5rds that rotates to reload.

drck1000

Re: Keltec KSG Shotgun
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2020, 12:20:19 PM »
The IWI one looks badass. I forgot the name. But has 3 tubes of 5rds that rotates to reload.
I shot the IWI one. It was a solid meh. Maybe the one I tried needed to be broken in or lubed, but it didn’t impress me.

macsak

Re: Keltec KSG Shotgun
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2020, 12:28:07 PM »
I shot the IWI one. It was a solid meh. Maybe the one I tried needed to be broken in or lubed, but it didn’t impress me.

any port in a storm...

changemyoil66

Re: Keltec KSG Shotgun
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2020, 12:31:46 PM »
I shot the IWI one. It was a solid meh. Maybe the one I tried needed to be broken in or lubed, but it didn’t impress me.

Dry stroking is never good.

macsak

Re: Keltec KSG Shotgun
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2020, 12:34:58 PM »
Dry stroking is never good.

i heard you are very experienced in short stroking...

drck1000

Re: Keltec KSG Shotgun
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2020, 12:41:24 PM »

changemyoil66

Re: Keltec KSG Shotgun
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2020, 12:45:39 PM »
OP, even seen a guy with a pistol grip on the KSG and he still had a difficult time. The pistol grip looked like it was making it harder to rack.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Keltec KSG Shotgun
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2020, 02:01:45 PM »
I have the original KSG-12 (6+6+1).  I keep slugs in one tube, 00-Buck in the other, and 00-Buck chambered.

Racking it is no different than any other pump action shotty.  The fact that it's a bullpup creates a mental issue in how the user sees what needs to happen.  The #1 mistake is trying to be gentle.  You have to rack it like a man!!   O0   As with any pump shotgun, if you don't give it enough force, it doesn't cycle completely.  That includes BOTH the rearward and forward strokes.  Worst case, you eject and waste an unfired round that leaves the magazine but doesn't make it into the breech. 

Another issue with the user might be they are grabbing the forend too far back (toward themselves).  That reduces leverage needed to get a nice, solid racking motion. 

You may also tend to grab the forend too far forward.  That's a major problem, because your hand is at risk of being in front of the muzzle. I added a flash hider/door breach muzzle device, mostly because it increases the length of the barrel another inch or more to help avoid reaching in front of the muzzle.  The bullpup design is fantastic, but it also comes with the risk of blowing your fingers or hand off if you're not aware of where your forward hand is on the firearm.

I mounted a set of flip-up sights (no sights came with the shotgun), a Viridian green laser/light combo (super-small), a short vertical grip as far forward on the forgrip as possible, and a Kydex cheek rest.

The vertical grip allows me to choose if I need the pistol grip to rack it, or if I want to grab the forend itself.  The grip acts in part as an index & safety feature, so my hand never extends too far down the barrel to the muzzle. 

There was a design issue with the forend.  The plastic rail on bottom can break if you have too much leverage and are puling at a backward-and-upward direction.  I chose a short pistol grip to reduce the potential amount of leverage.  I also bought a metal reinforcement kit that attaches to the lower rail.  The grip attaches to the reinforcement.  No fragile rail issues now that I can see.

I don't think anyone who practices a few times a year with the KSG -- or any other pump shotgun -- should have a problem properly racking it every time.

Be rough with your KSG.  It likes it!   :wave:
« Last Edit: October 19, 2020, 02:49:01 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Keltec KSG Shotgun
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2020, 02:17:04 PM »
OP, even seen a guy with a pistol grip on the KSG and he still had a difficult time. The pistol grip looked like it was making it harder to rack.

I tried the Magpul angled fore grip that many KSG owners install.   I didn't like that it provided almost no protection against reaching too far forward, risking having your hand in front of the muzzle.

I use a very short vertical grip mounted as far forward as possible on the lower rail.  That acts as a positive stop so my hand doesn't sit near the muzzle, and it gives me the option to rack using the grip or by grabbing the shotgun's forend far enough forward to have the leverage to rack it.

A long pistol grip creates its own problems re: the plastic lower rail.  I recommend a short-ish pistol grip installed as I did.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

bonertyme

Re: Keltec KSG Shotgun
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2020, 09:38:33 AM »
Anyone have any feedback on the Keltec KSG shotgun? I know in the beginning the had issues...but what about lately?

Good weapon for home defense?

Thank you for any feedback?

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toku58

Re: Keltec KSG Shotgun
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2020, 11:57:37 AM »
I’ve had zero issues with mine.  Works as it should.

aaronc5362

Re: Keltec KSG Shotgun
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2020, 08:26:56 AM »
The IWI one looks badass. I forgot the name. But has 3 tubes of 5rds that rotates to reload.

Srm 1216. I was also interested in that as well. It was super hard to find years ago. Probably even worse now. I dont even know if they even still make them.

But as another have said.. rack it like a man. It aint no keiki. With a mentality of.. "make noise so everyone can hear" ive never short stroked it.