Some dems are calling for truth and reconciliation commissions in order to make sure a phenomenon like Trump never happens again by going after his supporters. I wonder what happens to those who refuse to put on the mask, bend the knee, and surrender their weapons?

https://www.salon.com/2020/10/19/dont-let-trump-and-his-minions-get-away-with-this--or-it-will-happen-all-over-again/

https://thepostmillennial.com/former-labour-secretary-calls-for-truth-and-reconciliation-commission-to-punish-trump-supporters/

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/trump-truth-reconciliation/

The far left is pretty wacko.  Re-education camps sound like what the Chinese are doing with the Xinjiang re-education camps.  While they are also opposing them T_T friggen hypocrites.

The far left is pretty wacko.  Re-education camps sound like what the Chinese are doing with the Xinjiang re-education camps.  While they are also opposing them T_T friggen hypocrites.

Those are mainstream left voices. The far left is attacking cops and burning cities.

Those are mainstream left voices. The far left is attacking cops and burning cities.

When moderate Liberals come out against far left agendas and actions, they are vilified by the Left as far right, white supremacists, etc.

The Left has moved further left, leaving the moderate left behind.  They are so far removed from today's Left, they are actually close to moderate right.

This is a major reason the #WalkAway project began, and why so many former Democrats say, "I didn't leave the Democrat Party.  The Party left me."

When moderate Liberals come out against far left agendas and actions, they are vilified by the Left as far right, white supremacists, etc.

The Left has moved further left, leaving the moderate left behind.  They are so far removed from today's Left, they are actually close to moderate right.

This is a major reason the #WalkAway project began, and why so many former Democrats say, "I didn't leave the Democrat Party.  The Party left me."

Agreed, but the exact same is happening to the republicans.  Both sides are deteriorating.   

Agreed, but the exact same is happening to the republicans.  Both sides are deteriorating.

TBH, I don't know personally 1 GOP who left and went to the DNC.  But I know a whole bunch of DNC who left and became GOPs.  But this is just me.

Candace Owens had the perfect post.  If you side with Hollywood, millionaires, billion dollar oligarchs, and the media, you are not the resistance.

TBH, I don't know personally 1 GOP who left and went to the DNC.  But I know a whole bunch of DNC who left and became GOPs.  But this is just me.

Candace Owens had the perfect post.  If you side with Hollywood, millionaires, billion dollar oligarchs, and the media, you are not the resistance.

I know some republicans that now don't call themselves republicans but independent.  I think as both sides go extremes either you go extreme also or you go to the middle. 

Agreed, but the exact same is happening to the republicans.  Both sides are deteriorating.

Unless you have some sort of evidence of the possibility of Republican commissions with similar goals I am just going to file this under "not really" and move on. If anything Republicans have seen the evidence of Democratic delusion/self-destruction and have easily outmaneuvered them by shifting towards populism.

Agreed, but the exact same is happening to the republicans.  Both sides are deteriorating.

Based on what evidence?

Hint:  you're WRONG again.

Pew asks, for example, whether poor people have it easy because they can get
government benefits without doing anything in return. In 1994, 63% of Republicans
agreed with this sentiment, as did 44% of Democrats.

This year, 65% of Republicans agreed — a 2-point increase — while just 18% of
Democrats did — a 26-point drop.

Nearly two-thirds (65%) of Democrats used to believe that most people who want
to get ahead can do so if they work hard. Today, just 45% of Democrats believe this.
Among Republicans, the change was negligible — it went from 73% in 1994 to 77%
today.

These questions are part a PEW research poll to see where the left and right are on a spectrum, and where the median is.  What the trends show between 1994 and 2017, Democrats have moved further Left than Republicans have moved right.  The amount of shift in the right is almost negligible -- about 2%.  Democrats seem to have moved 20-30% further to the Left.

Do some research before making claims that are FALSE, Mr. Fake News Man.

Look at this graph.  Pay attention to where the top graph's MEDIAN lines are for left and right, and compare those 2 lines with their locations in the bottom graph.  That shows the shift of which you spoke.



https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/pew-research-center-study-shows-that-democrats-have-shifted-to-the-extreme-left/

Unless you have some sort of evidence of the possibility of Republican commissions with similar goals I am just going to file this under "not really" and move on. If anything Republicans have seen the evidence of Democratic delusion/self-destruction and have easily outmaneuvered them by shifting towards populism.

You have good instincts/facts guiding your opinions.

Much better than "Feelings ...... nothing more than Feelings....."   

I too can post fancy graphs


https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-republican-party-has-changed-dramatically-since-george-h-w-bush-ran-it/

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-there-are-so-few-moderate-republicans-left/

I too can post fancy graphs

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-republican-party-has-changed-dramatically-since-george-h-w-bush-ran-it/

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-there-are-so-few-moderate-republicans-left/

Maybe you can Google a graph that actually uses the same definitions as mine?  That might even be close to having some relevance.   

Do you realize that "Conservative" and "Right Wing" are NOT the same?  (not synonyms)

The trend I posted was about Right vs. Left shift. 

Conservative?   LOL!!

Definition of conservative (Entry 1 of 2)
   1a: of or relating to a philosophy of conservatism
     b
Conservative
       :of or constituting a political party professing the principles of conservatism: such as
           (1): of or constituting a party of the United Kingdom advocating support of established institutions
           (2): PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVE

Maybe you can Google a graph that actually uses the same definitions as mine?  That might even be close to having some relevance.   

Do you realize that "Conservative" and "Right Wing" are NOT the same?  (not synonyms)

The trend I posted was about Right vs. Left shift. 

Conservative?   LOL!!

Perhaps I wasn't arguing that from the beginning?  I was saying liberals (left) are getting more liberal and conservatives (right) are getting more conservatives.  Both alienating the middle/independents.  And going to extremes.  Hence graph....
America as a whole yes is going more liberal. 

Wait what?  Since when is conservatives not the "right" party?  Are democrats no longer left in your world too?

Perhaps I wasn't arguing that from the beginning?  I was saying liberals (left) are getting more liberal and conservatives (right) are getting more conservatives.  Both alienating the middle/independents.  And going to extremes.  Hence graph....
America as a whole yes is going more liberal. 

Wait what?  Since when is conservatives not the "right" party?  Are democrats no longer left in your world too?

Are there stats on how many middles are starting to choose a side?

Are there stats on how many middles are starting to choose a side?

Not sure haven't researched that.

Not sure haven't researched that.

I only know of 1 guy who was GOP and went libertarian due to Jo's stance on the 2a. It isn't you.

Perhaps I wasn't arguing that from the beginning?  I was saying liberals (left) are getting more liberal and conservatives (right) are getting more conservatives.  Both alienating the middle/independents.  And going to extremes.  Hence graph....
America as a whole yes is going more liberal. 

Wait what?  Since when is conservatives not the "right" party?  Are democrats no longer left in your world too?

Do some research -- REAL research.

The Left is sliding so far left, the LIBERALS are no longer part of them. if you think "Liberals are becoming more Liberal" is valid, it would mean people on the Left are sliding more to the center, since the center is where most mainstream, traditional Liberals reside.  Leftists are becoming LESS Liberal as they shift to the extreme Left, because the Democrats are adopting the extreme views and ideologies of the far left.

Trying to say Conservative vs. Liberal to any degree is like defining shades of blue and red.  What's happening is the Reds of all shades are staying Red, while the blues are trending toward green -- a new shade that has drifted away from the blues.

You have only to look at Bernie Sanders, a lifelong, self-proclaimed Socialist who ran TWICE as a Democrat.  He's about as radical as any Liberal can be, yet listen to the so-called moderate Liberals promising the SAME THING he started promising:  free college, free healthcare, a massive wealth tax, guaranteed income, and all available to citizens and non-citizens alike.  Of course, they all have to add more gun control, because these policies are what cause revolts in many countries.  Can't have the means to defend the country and a shift to Socialism at the same time!

Trump rallies look like Americana personified
Biden rallies are empty
Far left rallies are highly coordinated and violent
Far right rallies are few and far between, but generally well behaved unless the violent left shows up

Trump rallies look like Americana personified
Biden rallies are empty
Far left rallies are highly coordinated and violent
Far right rallies are few and far between, but generally well behaved unless the violent left shows up

That's okay.  If Biden wins, he'll simply mandate people must attend his/Democrats' rallies in large numbers.

It's how all the cool authoritarians do it.

Do some research -- REAL research.

The Left is sliding so far left, the LIBERALS are no longer part of them. if you think "Liberals are becoming more Liberal" is valid, it would mean people on the Left are sliding more to the center, since the center is where most mainstream, traditional Liberals reside.  Leftists are becoming LESS Liberal as they shift to the extreme Left, because the Democrats are adopting the extreme views and ideologies of the far left.

Trying to say Conservative vs. Liberal to any degree is like defining shades of blue and red.  What's happening is the Reds of all shades are staying Red, while the blues are trending toward green -- a new shade that has drifted away from the blues.

You have only to look at Bernie Sanders, a lifelong, self-proclaimed Socialist who ran TWICE as a Democrat.  He's about as radical as any Liberal can be, yet listen to the so-called moderate Liberals promising the SAME THING he started promising:  free college, free healthcare, a massive wealth tax, guaranteed income, and all available to citizens and non-citizens alike.  Of course, they all have to add more gun control, because these policies are what cause revolts in many countries.  Can't have the means to defend the country and a shift to Socialism at the same time!

In that analogy I would say some of the "liberals" are shifting to the left (green) and some of the "conservatives" are shifting to the right (purple) then.  How's that?   Cause some on the far right are waving nazi flags and I would say the ones banning lbgt marriage, abortion and adding "god" back to government.  And the far left is going full socialism, reparations, antifa.   That doesn't discount both sides are going to according to you the new "colors".