Millennials Are Leaving Religion And Not Coming Back (Read 17485 times)

omnigun

Millennials Are Leaving Religion And Not Coming Back
« on: October 24, 2020, 03:11:14 PM »
Four in ten millennials now say they are religiously unaffiliated, according to the Pew Research Center. In fact, millennials (those between the ages of 23 and 38) are now almost as likely to say they have no religion as they are to identify as Christian.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/millennials-are-leaving-religion-and-not-coming-back/

I wonder what this will do to the republican party in the long run.  I look forward to the changes in the political system in the future. . 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Millennials Are Leaving Religion And Not Coming Back
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2020, 03:27:39 PM »
Four in ten millennials now say they are religiously unaffiliated, according to the Pew Research Center. In fact, millennials (those between the ages of 23 and 38) are now almost as likely to say they have no religion as they are to identify as Christian.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/millennials-are-leaving-religion-and-not-coming-back/

I wonder what this will do to the republican party in the long run.  I look forward to the changes in the political system in the future. .

Good,

If they tried to change religion like they are trying to change the country, religion is better off.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Millennials Are Leaving Religion And Not Coming Back
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2020, 03:54:31 PM »
Good,

If they tried to change religion like they are trying to change the country, religion is better off.

If no one believes in religion does it still exist? LOL

On a serious note though, what would republicans do without religion?  If they don't change their party we are doomed to only democrats like Hawaii for life.

macsak

Re: Millennials Are Leaving Religion And Not Coming Back
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2020, 03:58:00 PM »
If they don't change their party we are doomed to only democrats like Hawaii for life.

once again, you forgot to add "in my opinion"...

omnigun

Re: Millennials Are Leaving Religion And Not Coming Back
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2020, 04:03:59 PM »
once again, you forgot to add "in my opinion"...

True, do you have a different opinion?  Republicans are largely made up of the religious, if there are less religious people and republicans continue to only cater to religious people.  Math says they lose voters and lose power...

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Millennials Are Leaving Religion And Not Coming Back
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2020, 04:13:37 PM »
If no one believes in religion does it still exist? LOL

On a serious note though, what would republicans do without religion?  If they don't change their party we are doomed to only democrats like Hawaii for life.

Republicans?

Democrats are cultists. 
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Millennials Are Leaving Religion And Not Coming Back
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2020, 04:27:47 PM »
If no one believes in religion does it still exist? LOL

On a serious note though, what would republicans do without religion?  If they don't change their party we are doomed to only democrats like Hawaii for life.

Please explain what you mean by that.  I read it as, "Republicans can't exist without members who also believe in religion because only religious people are Republicans."

Or is it, "The Republican Party only wants members who believe in religion, and as that number gets lower, so will the Republican voter roles."

None of that makes any sense, nor are they true.  The GOP is much more inclusive than the Left-leaning, progressive, Socialist. Identity politics pushing elitists.  If you don't believe that, look at who gets banned from Social Media first after being attacked incessantly from Democrat members.

When Nancy Pelosi says she's a faithful Catholic praying for Donald Trump every night, the Press and followers demand respect for her faith.  Contrast that with comments about Amy Coney Barrett's faith.  Polar opposites.

Tolerance of faith for Liberals ends where opposing political ideologies begin. 

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

robtmc

Re: Millennials Are Leaving Religion And Not Coming Back
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2020, 04:47:11 PM »
Really, who gives a shiite what a pack of airheaded millennials thinks about religion?

They helped elect Øbowel, no more needs to be mentioned of what they "think"

Religion is a private, individual matter.  Oh yeah, millennials must have group approval and affirmation for every detail of their shallow lives.

mrgaf

Re: Millennials Are Leaving Religion And Not Coming Back
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2020, 04:56:39 PM »
Millennials? Hah? This is their entire belief and outlook on life.......

To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.  Thomas Paine.

No man can get rich in politics unless he is a crook.  It cannot be done. Harry Truman

Only good liberal is one taking a dirt nap.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Millennials Are Leaving Religion And Not Coming Back
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2020, 05:05:49 PM »
It's amazing people can actually come up with this kind of MALARKEY.

The SOUTH has historically been both a DEMOCRAT STRONGHOLD and predominately Christian to a higher percentage than any other region besides Utah itself. 

Based on pure history, Democrats and Religion were inescapably joined.

Now that the Left (mostly Democrats) have adopted intersectionality as their new path, the innermost facets of the party are tearing it apart.

If you don't think the Dem party is in turmoil, look at the Squad, the DNC fight over putting God back into the campaign platform after "accidentally" removing it, the attacks on ACB over her religion and all the "Handmaid's Tale" crap, etc.

When you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything.  Nature abhors a vacuum.  Where there is a void in one's life, one searches for something to fill it.

It all points to the need to not only nurish the body and mind, but also the soul, spirit, psyche -- pick a name.  It's  that part that gives our existence meaning.  It's how cults take advantage of broken and unguided youths.  It's how gangs recruit young members.  It's how political parties get you to vote for them.  Whatever is missing in your life, they offer to remove that emptiness.

It's arrogance that convinces us that it'll never happen to us.  Nobody is special when it comes to the human condition.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Millennials Are Leaving Religion And Not Coming Back
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2020, 07:25:16 PM »
Please explain what you mean by that.  I read it as, "Republicans can't exist without members who also believe in religion because only religious people are Republicans."

Or is it, "The Republican Party only wants members who believe in religion, and as that number gets lower, so will the Republican voter roles."

None of that makes any sense, nor are they true.  The GOP is much more inclusive than the Left-leaning, progressive, Socialist. Identity politics pushing elitists.  If you don't believe that, look at who gets banned from Social Media first after being attacked incessantly from Democrat members.

When Nancy Pelosi says she's a faithful Catholic praying for Donald Trump every night, the Press and followers demand respect for her faith.  Contrast that with comments about Amy Coney Barrett's faith.  Polar opposites.

Tolerance of faith for Liberals ends where opposing political ideologies begin.

This is going under the assumption based on what the republican party tends to stand for. Most republicans are religious and Christian or similar religion or similar beliefs.  (Anti abortion, God in government,  Christmas, etc)

Now in this country the person with "the move votes" wins. 

If less people believe in religion, they most likely will not be swayed by the more religious party.  (this is backed up by pew)
https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/religious-family/atheist/party-affiliation/

That means if they are non religious and don't vote for republicans because of that, that leave them to either not vote or vote democrat.  According to pew they tend to vote democrat in majority.

Thus the whole point of this,  is the republican party needs to walk away from being ultra religious and go back to its roots   Before they catered to the evangelicals.  Back to freedom and small government that minded its own business.
« Last Edit: October 24, 2020, 07:31:40 PM by omnigun »

macsak

Re: Millennials Are Leaving Religion And Not Coming Back
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2020, 07:48:16 PM »
This is going under the assumption based on what the republican party tends to stand for. Most republicans are religious and Christian or similar religion or similar beliefs.  (Anti abortion, God in government,  Christmas, etc)

Now in this country the person with "the move votes" wins. 

If less people believe in religion, they most likely will not be swayed by the more religious party.  (this is backed up by pew)
https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/religious-family/atheist/party-affiliation/

That means if they are non religious and don't vote for republicans because of that, that leave them to either not vote or vote democrat.  According to pew they tend to vote democrat in majority.

Thus the whole point of this,  is the republican party needs to walk away from being ultra religious and go back to its roots   Before they catered to the evangelicals.  Back to freedom and small government that minded its own business.

you forgot "in my opinion" again...

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Millennials Are Leaving Religion And Not Coming Back
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2020, 08:26:00 PM »
you forgot "in my opinion" again...

He also forgot the real point.  The party is not supposed to chase membership.  They identify their core values and platform issues, and the people who approve will become Republicans.

He's looking for the party to follow him.  Self-centered perspective.  I'm not expecting the Democrats to change their insane ideas to lure me in.  Even if they did, I would not believe them.  They have a long history of being whatever voters want up until the day of the election.  Afterward, they forget the voters exist.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Millennials Are Leaving Religion And Not Coming Back
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2020, 09:36:54 PM »
He also forgot the real point.  The party is not supposed to chase membership.  They identify their core values and platform issues, and the people who approve will become Republicans.

He's looking for the party to follow him.  Self-centered perspective.  I'm not expecting the Democrats to change their insane ideas to lure me in.  Even if they did, I would not believe them.  They have a long history of being whatever voters want up until the day of the election.  Afterward, they forget the voters exist.

You are missing my point.  If the core of the republican party and platform issue is religious in nature and people are trending to not be religious than the republican party will fail.  No one will become republicans.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Millennials Are Leaving Religion And Not Coming Back
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2020, 09:47:01 PM »
You are missing my point.  If the core of the republican party and platform issue is religious in nature and people are trending to not be religious than the republican party will fail.  No one will become republicans.

Show me in the RNC charter where what you just said is true.

The fundamental concept of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, especially the Bill of Rights, is that all men are endowed BY THEIR CREATOR with certain rights,  You can't have a United States unless you agree that the premise our values were founded on recognize a higher authority than man.

https://ballotpedia.org/The_Republican_Party_Platform,_2020
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Millennials Are Leaving Religion And Not Coming Back
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2020, 10:05:34 PM »
Show me in the RNC charter where what you just said is true.

The fundamental concept of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, especially the Bill of Rights, is that all men are endowed BY THEIR CREATOR with certain rights,  You can't have a United States unless you agree that the premise our values were founded on recognize a higher authority than man.

https://ballotpedia.org/The_Republican_Party_Platform,_2020

As I cant reasonably convince you that the republican party is religious lets go with your argument.  Since you want to argue literal terms. Their creator can mean your own mother and father, they technically "create" you.  If we start taking things literally, what about women what about their rights?  Now if we expand this, you do know there are many things in the constitution that call for separation of church and state.  Does this go against the bill of rights?

ren

Re: Millennials Are Leaving Religion And Not Coming Back
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2020, 10:14:03 PM »
you are free to come down to the Republican HQs and have a conversation
Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Millennials Are Leaving Religion And Not Coming Back
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2020, 10:20:27 PM »
As I cant reasonably convince you that the republican party is religious lets go with your argument.  Since you want to argue literal terms. Their creator can mean your own mother and father, they technically "create" you.  If we start taking things literally, what about women what about their rights?  Now if we expand this, you do know there are many things in the constitution that call for separation of church and state.  Does this go against the bill of rights?

Bullshit.

Creator has a specific meaning in this context.  Parents are not "Creators."  They can't endow anyone with rights.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Millennials Are Leaving Religion And Not Coming Back
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2020, 10:22:47 PM »
Bullshit.

Creator has a specific meaning in this context.  Parents are not "Creators."  They can't endow anyone with rights.

As you ignored everything else I wrote, hmm if someone doesn't believe in the "creator" do they get rights?  What creator in specific?  People believe in many different ones.  Do they all get different rights?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Millennials Are Leaving Religion And Not Coming Back
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2020, 10:26:39 PM »
As you ignored everything else I wrote, hmm if someone doesn't believe in the "creator" do they get rights?  What creator in specific?  People believe in many different ones.  Do they all get different rights?

I ignored everything else because it was all predicated on the first statement -- that your parents, by your definition, can be called your creator.

Everything after that was based on nonsense.

If I thought any of these new questions were serious, I'd engage you.  Since they are more obviously just trolling attempts, forget it.  "Do they all get different rights?"  If we went with your stupid definition that parents are your creator, then that would be the case.

"Creator".  Not "Creators."  Singular.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw