Awesome!  Yes, it helps a lot and thank you for taking the time to write/share.  Much appreciated.  I'll definitely be going back to read closer later. 

Cost/savings is a consideration, but I def don't mind spending more.  Right now, I'm thinking it's a waste to get an top notch stock and still shoot a stock barrel.  That and I'll be shooting factory match ammo, at least for a while more.  Would a better stock help?  Probably, but one of those thing where I think the difference is wasted on me.  I did look more into the KRG that you mentioned and mentioned above as well.  I really am interested in the MPA and Manners though.  Still, if I could find an A5 in stock or lead time was less, I'd probably go with that. 

I was looking into Manners more, including their rifle stocks, as well. 

Then now I have to be on the lookout for ammo.  I have a decent amount, but would very much like to have more, especially when I start shooting more.  Will just have to bite the bullet and pay a bit of premium.  Sucks that I was starting to get into this almost 10 years ago and then took a break, which mostly coincided with all the steel being taken down at KHSC.   

The question of what to upgrade first is always vert subjective IMO. I think initially we all get caught up in getting the best glass or best barrel or best trigger or bipod. If i could go back to the start or if im teaching someone new ish to more of a "practical" shooting style (prone, kneeling, prs ish, real world hunting), i would say to upgrade your chassis or stock first.

The reason being that, as you shoot more and more varied options. You realize how compromised ur shooting technique can get when your interface to the rifle itself is compromised. For example, the manners t6a just didnt fit me well and i always had an uneasy tension when shooting prone vs my mcmillan a5. I always strugged to get consistent cheek weld, the grip was a little too thick for my small hands. But i bought it because its what is "most popular" in forums, etc.

Bottom line, unless your interface with the rifle allows consistenty and comfort, there is absolutely nothing a new barrel or optic or trigger will do for you. Once you compromise your positioning and comfort, its game over imo. And its not a buy once cry once, its a try everything thing lol. Or get a chassis that as enuff modularity to give you those options. Or hopefully someone at the range is kind enough to let you lay behind their rifle and practice a few dry fires.

The best kind of rifle to test a stock or chassis is usually a 22lr or 223 bolt gun. Gives you more time to gather info (unless your rich and pop off 100+ rds of standard cartridges a day lol).

And make sure you test it prone, kneeling and from tripod if applicable. Testing from a bench does not count imo, unless thats the purpose of the rifle.

Sorry last part of rant. If you wanna give a chassis or stock a fair shake. Please do it justice and have a bipod and decent rear bag (armageddon, precision underground, tab. Etc)
 Too many people i see saying their stocks or chassis "dont work" well  and are shooting with no rear support or how to properly build a foundation shooting prone.

Let us know what you get! The beauty and curse of this time is there are so many great options, but with too many options can cause frustration and bankruptcy lol

And its not a buy once cry once, its a try everything thing lol. Or get a chassis that as enuff modularity to give you those options.

Will go back and read that closer later. But I wanted to reply that the “try everything” is VERY much me. I did that with ARs and handguns. Would love to do that with bolt gun(s), but bad timing and put it off for a while.

They modularity was one consideration of looking for the ability to tweak LOP, comb, etc. I don’t know what I don’t know. I think my current stock is ok, but haven’t tried much. I think I am still very much in the process of learning that I like and don’t like. It was an expensive road with ARs, which I did the try everything. Haha

Appreciate your feedback on the scope/glass thread when you have a chance.

MPA comp chassis is currently in the lead.  I am trying to hold out to see if they have a Black Friday sale.  Seems like they had decent offerings in 2018.  I just dunno if I can hold out that long.  The more I research MPA, the more I'm impressed with their offerings, not just their chassis. 

Manners, McMillan, KRG, and MDT still in the running.

Found the chassis that I wanted in stock, so I pulled the trigger and ordered.  It wasn't the color that was tops on my list, but I'm not that particular on color.  Especially it if saves me the 6-8 week lead time, which will probably be more due to the holidays coming. 

 

Now the wait begins. . . also the search for the rest of the components for the "Rem 700 Refresh project". 

Chassis are the future, no ifs ands or buts due to modularity. There are options from manners and foundations that have a traditional stock feel and do not require bedding, and offer aftermarket accessories such as weights/arca rails.

Most modern chassis can easily add intetnal and external weights to the front and rear to balance the gun to your preference for positional shooting and recoil mitigation.

I run an MDT ACC (fully loaded internal weights, 2 pair of external weights), with a 24" m24 barrel, and atacr and the rigs about 21 lbs. Shoots real nice 

Chassis are the future, no ifs ands or buts due to modularity. There are options from manners and foundations that have a traditional stock feel and do not require bedding, and offer aftermarket accessories such as weights/arca rails.

Most modern chassis can easily add intetnal and external weights to the front and rear to balance the gun to your preference for positional shooting and recoil mitigation.

I run an MDT ACC (fully loaded internal weights, 2 pair of external weights), with a 24" m24 barrel, and atacr and the rigs about 21 lbs. Shoots real nice 

I looked quite hard at MDT.  Not the ACC, but the LSS-XL Gen 2.  Many of their selection had very good reviews as well as seemingly pretty good CS support online. 

I also found some McMillan and Manners molded stocks available online in stock and I was very tempted.  But I went for more modularity and ability to tweak things as I refine my shooting with the 700.  I'll post my progress along the way, but sounds like it won't be too far from your setup (with the M24 barrel). 

What ATACR do you have? 

7-35 in mil xt, its my fav scope ive used so far. Ive heard that the 7-35 has better glass clarity than thr 5-25, but have yet to confirm it. I also posted in the optics thread.

It really depends on what you want to do with the rifle. Mines a hardcore PRS rig cause im going to compete so arca rails and modularity is a clear winner. I kinda wanna tinker with the MDT XRS.

XLR also makes a comperable chassis to the ACC, its almost a carbon copy. More companies have similar systems like the American rifle company, magpuls got a chassis, JP, MPA, KRG (theres probably more). It doesnt really matter what you choose in the end, but newer systems will have their advantages and save you $$$ on upgrades.

7-35 in mil xt, its my fav scope ive used so far. Ive heard that the 7-35 has better glass clarity than thr 5-25, but have yet to confirm it. I also posted in the optics thread.

It really depends on what you want to do with the rifle. Mines a hardcore PRS rig cause im going to compete so arca rails and modularity is a clear winner. I kinda wanna tinker with the MDT XRS.

XLR also makes a comperable chassis to the ACC, its almost a carbon copy. More companies have similar systems like the American rifle company, magpuls got a chassis, JP, MPA, KRG (theres probably more). It doesnt really matter what you choose in the end, but newer systems will have their advantages and save you $$$ on upgrades.

Thanks!  Looked up the glass clarity thing quite a bit, including feedback from those who have shot with both.  Overall, what will likely say me is the mag range. 

Not interested in PRS.  Maybe if I was 10-15 younger and still living in WA, I would surely be in.  Now, mostly just more precision that my current rig and ringing steel at distance.  Though I really do like the modularity of chassis. I researched XLR as well (among others) and I think the features and grip/trigger area wasn't quite what I was looking for.  But I freely admit I don't know what I don't know when it comes to rifle stocks and chassis. 

Found the chassis that I wanted in stock, so I pulled the trigger and ordered.  It wasn't the color that was tops on my list, but I'm not that particular on color.  Especially it if saves me the 6-8 week lead time, which will probably be more due to the holidays coming. 

 

Now the wait begins. . . also the search for the rest of the components for the "Rem 700 Refresh project".

Congrats on the upgrade brother. What chassis did u end up with?? Sorry if i missed it somewhere uptop.

No doubt once u get more modularity and more comfortable laying behind a rifle with this new system youll see improvements in your shooting regardless of ammo choices.

If you need cerakote in the future. Take a good look at LRI or blown deadline. Both have diff "styles" but both top notch

Congrats on the upgrade brother. What chassis did u end up with?? Sorry if i missed it somewhere uptop.

No doubt once u get more modularity and more comfortable laying behind a rifle with this new system youll see improvements in your shooting regardless of ammo choices.

If you need cerakote in the future. Take a good look at LRI or blown deadline. Both have diff "styles" but both top notch

MPA Comp side folder.  Their vert grip feels quite nice.  Seems to put my trigger finger in a good spot.  Will see what I think after I start shooting with it.  Def LOTS of modularity with this one though. 

Doing cerakote for my barrel, but already have a local guy lined up. 

MPA Comp side folder.  Their vert grip feels quite nice.  Seems to put my trigger finger in a good spot.  Will see what I think after I start shooting with it.  Def LOTS of modularity with this one though. 

Doing cerakote for my barrel, but already have a local guy lined up.

I think you'll definitely be happy with that purchase. Ive laid behind my brothers MPA and its pretty legit. Theyre def on the top for the grip modularity aspect. Let us know how it works out!

I think you'll definitely be happy with that purchase. Ive laid behind my brothers MPA and its pretty legit. Theyre def on the top for the grip modularity aspect. Let us know how it works out!

Thanks!  I'm very much looking forward to shooting this chassis.  It's very well thought out, at least I think and from their explanation of the features.  I'll share the project to refresh my Rem 700.  I have the parts for the gun itself, with scope and rings soon. 

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And make sure you test it prone, kneeling and from tripod if applicable. Testing from a bench does not count imo, unless thats the purpose of the rifle.

Sorry last part of rant. If you wanna give a chassis or stock a fair shake. Please do it justice and have a bipod and decent rear bag (armageddon, precision underground, tab. Etc)
 Too many people i see saying their stocks or chassis "dont work" well  and are shooting with no rear support or how to properly build a foundation shooting prone.

I've been looking at tripods.  Very interesting applications.  I don't plan on hunting with this rifle, but still interesting.  Hog saddle 

I have some Rifle Gear rear bags from when I bought the Rem 700 maybe 8 years ago and I ordered a couple on Midway. 

For bipod, I have Harris on the gun now, but I'm looking at Atlas for this chassis.  It came with the spigot mount that has Atlas in mind.  They have Harris adapter as well though. 

Damn, this journey down the rabbit hole is expensive.   

A tripod was def one of the best investments for me and my bro. Both in hunting / real world applications. The ability to have a device that can go prone to kneeling to standing and level you off on a 45deg slope is priceless. Bipods have their uses but in an actual real world situation in an urban environment. itll prob be rare to use one effectively. Hence the ckye pod lol. Another expensive rabbit hole i jumped thru. Cant find them rn tho cuz they coming out with a gen 2 real soon.

One cheaper upgrade to a harris is to get the RRS arca adapter for it. So you can use em on the arca rail on the mpa.

RRS anvil 30 with TL24L body. Locks up near prone solid while standing on a loose dirt slope.

A tripod was def one of the best investments for me and my bro. Both in hunting / real world applications. The ability to have a device that can go prone to kneeling to standing and level you off on a 45deg slope is priceless. Bipods have their uses but in an actual real world situation in an urban environment. itll prob be rare to use one effectively. Hence the ckye pod lol. Another expensive rabbit hole i jumped thru. Cant find them rn tho cuz they coming out with a gen 2 real soon.

One cheaper upgrade to a harris is to get the RRS arca adapter for it. So you can use em on the arca rail on the mpa.

It's on my long (and getting longer) of items to buy.  I get what you mean about the different shooting positions.  One of the places I've shot at has a few elevated targets.  I was shooting them from a seated position on a table and was able to get enough inclination.  One of my buddies was insisting on shooting it prone, but then he had to put his bipod on top of a case, which wasn't that stable.  I think in that case, a tripod would have helped with the shots as well as spotting for me when I was using my scope to spot. 

Don't need more rabbit holes. . . haha.   I just ordered my scope today.  Now just the rings left for the "main" part of the project.  It's down to Arc and Spuhr.  I eventually want to travel with this setup, so the one piece mount seems to be more conducive to taking the glass off and having that in my backpack when the gun is in the Pelican down below. 

Next up also are chronos. . . and torque wrench.  My current torque wrench doesn't get to high enough for the Arc M10.  So I can get away with one 55 in-lb limiter.  I have a 68 in-lb for my Geissele scope mount.  Otherwise I think my wrench is 10-40 or 45 in-lb. 

Revisiting this thread.

I really like my MPA Comp BA chassis.  So much I went with a MPA ESR for the new .308.  That said, I am always looking for other options to try.  Unfortunately, bolt action chassis are expensive and many with long lead times. 

I decided to try a KRG X Ray as a test for the KRG line.  It's more budget than their Whiskey 3, but still all of the functionality that I am looking for.  Considered MDT and XLR, as well as a few others.  I came close to going with the Whiskey 3 for the new .308, but wanted to stick with what I knew for that one.  When I was planning the .308, that was supposed to be the only precision rifle build for a LONG time.  Obviously that didn't go as planned. . . :facepalm:

Revisiting this thread.
Obviously that didn't go as planned. . . :facepalm:

Does it ever?

Does it ever?

Sometimes. . . 

I have a manners EH5, McMillan game scout, woox exactus, McMillan game warden and a KMW Sentinel if u wanna feel it. I also have other manners and McMillan A5 n A3-5 and T5 also if you want to feel it.

I sold my KRG and XLR chassis so no longer have them. But only because a friend wanted them and l prefer stocks. Just feels more natural to me when l get behind them.

I'm a hunter so that's my background of usage. I'm liking the woox so far but still have a hunt or 2 to get a good feel of it in hunting contains. I know it's hard when you see so many things you want to try but you can't lol

Wish u all the best in your quest to build your new rifles.

Aloha