So I was looking more into it and couldn't find my answers below, if anyone can chime in.

1) Who selects our 4 electoral votes, I don't recall me voting for them
2) In 2016, 3 of our votes went to Clinton and 1 went to Bernie.  Is there a penalty if our electoral do not go for who the people vote for.  Clinton won with 62% of HI's vote, so all 4 should have gone toward her.

A FYI, even if 1 candidate wins the popular vote tally in the next few days, the electoral votes for states are not cast until Dec 24th deadline.  The voters must meet by Dec 14th to discuss who they will cast their vote for.  So it's pretty much not a shoe in for the next few days, which determines the popular vote.  Although most electoral's do cast their vote for who ever wins their districts popular vote, with the exception of 2 states (CO and X).

Feel free to correct anything I got wrong.

I don't think there is a penalty.   We do have 4 and they are "supposed" to vote how the population decides.  But like in 2016 when it doesn't really matter I think sometimes they have some leeway.

So I was looking more into it and couldn't find my answers below, if anyone can chime in.

1) Who selects our 4 electoral votes, I don't recall me voting for them
2) In 2016, 3 of our votes went to Clinton and 1 went to Bernie.  Is there a penalty if our electoral do not go for who the people vote for.  Clinton won with 62% of HI's vote, so all 4 should have gone toward her.

A FYI, even if 1 candidate wins the popular vote tally in the next few days, the electoral votes for states are not cast until Dec 24th deadline.  The voters must meet by Dec 14th to discuss who they will cast their vote for.  So it's pretty much not a shoe in for the next few days, which determines the popular vote.  Although most electoral's do cast their vote for who ever wins their districts popular vote, with the exception of 2 states (CO and X).

Feel free to correct anything I got wrong.

one of the 3 for clinton said she would've voted for bernie if she knew she could...

If you went strictly by the preference of Hawaii's libtards Democrat voters, Bernie should have gotten at least 3 of the 4 electors.

So I was looking more into it and couldn't find my answers below, if anyone can chime in.

1) Who selects our 4 electoral votes, I don't recall me voting for them
2) In 2016, 3 of our votes went to Clinton and 1 went to Bernie.  Is there a penalty if our electoral do not go for who the people vote for.  Clinton won with 62% of HI's vote, so all 4 should have gone toward her.

A FYI, even if 1 candidate wins the popular vote tally in the next few days, the electoral votes for states are not cast until Dec 24th deadline.  The voters must meet by Dec 14th to discuss who they will cast their vote for.  So it's pretty much not a shoe in for the next few days, which determines the popular vote.  Although most electoral's do cast their vote for who ever wins their districts popular vote, with the exception of 2 states (CO and X).

Feel free to correct anything I got wrong.

That's exactly who you voted for when you voted in the 2016 General Election and cast a vote for President (assuming you voted).

When you cast a vote for President, you are not voting for the candidate. 

1)  A slate of electors is named by each party. 

2)  The public votes for whichever party's candidates they wish

3)  Whichever party's candidates (Pres & VP) get the most votes wins the state election for those offices

4)  The slate of electors for the winning party now have the authority to cast their votes in the electoral college

5)  In Hawaii, electors are allowed to vote any way they wish.  In other states, the electors may be required to vote for the state election winners, or the electors may be apportioned according to the election results -- e.g. if Clinton received 75% of the votes, and Trump got 25%, then the electors would be split 3-1.

In 2016, Hawaii experienced one "faithless elector".  That is, an electoral vote was cast for someone other than the Hawaii Presidential race winner.  It would have been evenly split between Clinton and Sanders had one of the electors understood the rules.

As it stood, Clinton experienced the most faithless electors in the past 100 years of any US general election.  Some faithless electors, like Hawaii, were permitted to vote their conscience.  Some states laws mandated that the faithless electors be replaced with people who would vote as the election results required them to vote.  This situation I think was caused by the DNC and Clinton rigging the primaries for her using the Super Delegate process.  Many felt Bernie deserved the nomination, and they voted against Clinton by casting a voter for Sanders in the electoral college.

Since the electoral college was overwhelmingly in Trump's favor, faithless electors can't be blamed for swinging the election to him.  But, if it had been that close, I'm sure many faithless electors would have voted for Clinton to prevent Trump from winning.  In reality, they were able to cast a "protest" vote for Bernie without causing the election to go to the Republican nominee.

That's exactly who you voted for when you voted in the 2016 General Election and cast a vote for President (assuming you voted).



1)  A slate of electors is named by each party. 

So the HI DNC get 2 and the HI GOP get 2?  Or 1 each and green party gets 1 and so on.

So the HI DNC get 2 and the HI GOP get 2?  Or 1 each and green party gets 1 and so on.

Nope.

Each party selects 4 electors.  The party that wins, their electors get to  vote in the electoral college.

Electors are normally selected because of their past support for the party (normally donations or funds raised).  It's a symbolic reward for being generous/hard working.  They get a trip to DC out of it to cast their votes, although this year with COVID, that might change.

If Hawaii law required a proportional split of electoral votes, then it would be possible for 2 DNC, 1 GOP and 1 Libertarian if they accounted for more than a set percentage of total votes.  How that gets split and what the cut-off percentages would be depends on the lawmakers.  Right now, as I said, 100% are INTENDED to go to the winner, but electors have total discretion as to who they vote for.

How is it that the Hawai’i Electoral votes are already in for Biden when no official results have been released yet?

Where is the news coverage for our local election?

How is it that the Hawai’i Electoral votes are already in for Biden when no official results have been released yet?

Where is the news coverage for our local election?

Every local news station should have election news and results.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/politics/results-2020/


The AP has an article that explains every state that's been called for a candidate and what factored into the call.  Whether a race is called is up to the news agency you're watching/reading.  FOX might call a state for Trump, but CNN could wait hours before they call it -- hoping to avoid the painful task of awarding a state to Trump by waiting for Biden to catch up if he can  .

https://apnews.com/article/ap-explains-race-calls-0b1988605f9101f4b799fc63b01e0090

WHY AP CALLED HAWAII FOR BIDEN:

The AP declared Democrat Joe Biden the winner of Hawaii as soon as polls closed
in the state, even though election officials there had yet to release any results from
Tuesday’s presidential contest.

The news agency did so after results from AP VoteCast and an analysis of early
voting statistics confirmed expectations that the state’s longstanding political trends
in favor of Democratic presidential candidates will hold.

VoteCast, the AP’s wide-ranging survey of the American electorate, captures voters’
choices and why they made them.

A Republican presidential candidate hasn’t won Hawaii since Ronald Reagan in 1984.
Trump lost Hawaii by 32 points in 2016.

I clicked on the link for how the AP tallys votes and it says they do not guess, but wait till they get solid numbers.  But HI hasn't released anything yet because people were still in line.  Total BS from the AP.  They even called WA when only a total of 100K voted.

I clicked on the link for how the AP tallys votes and it says they do not guess, but wait till they get solid numbers.  But HI hasn't released anything yet because people were still in line.  Total BS from the AP.  They even called WA when only a total of 100K voted.

You say BS but its 100% correct lol.  Hawaii went biden hard.  Like usual.

I clicked on the link for how the AP tallys votes and it says they do not guess, but wait till they get solid numbers.  But HI hasn't released anything yet because people were still in line.  Total BS from the AP.  They even called WA when only a total of 100K voted.

Can you post the exact quote for that? 

What I read is they won't call the RACE until someone hits 270.  Each individual state has its own criteria.  Several, including Hawaii, were called the moment the polls closed in those states, because their polling indicated traditionally red or blue states in presidential races would remain so.