Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread (Read 108391 times)

ren

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #260 on: November 07, 2020, 10:08:35 AM »
Yes,  not to this extent but yes they did.  I voted by mail.

my point
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punaperson

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #261 on: November 07, 2020, 10:11:10 AM »
Yes,  not to this extent but yes they did.  I voted by mail.
Let's make the question more explicit, since you ignored the intent of the question:

In 2016 how many states, compared to 2020, had ballots that were mailed to everyone on the voter registration list, independent of an actual request from a voter as per the previously existing "absentee ballot" rules and requirements?

punaperson

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #262 on: November 07, 2020, 10:12:36 AM »
Nothing to see here.



PS: Everything Joe Biden and Kamala Harris said in the past year has been "misleading about a civic process".

omnigun

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #263 on: November 07, 2020, 10:18:41 AM »
Let's make the question more explicit, since you ignored the intent of the question:

In 2016 how many states, compared to 2020, had ballots that were mailed to everyone on the voter registration list, independent of an actual request from a voter as per the previously existing "absentee ballot" rules and requirements?

Not sure on the exact states but not all of them.  And not many that he lost.   

omnigun

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #264 on: November 07, 2020, 10:20:05 AM »
Nothing to see here.



PS: Everything Joe Biden and Kamala Harris said in the past year has been "misleading about a civic process".

Post fakenews get censored.  Posting things without evidence.  Let's see some courtcases to prove fraud.

drck1000

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #265 on: November 07, 2020, 10:22:06 AM »
Post fakenews get censored.  Posting things without evidence.  Let's see some courtcases to prove fraud.
Oh. But HRV could throw out a bunch of stuff in 2015-2016.

Ya, nothing to see there.

omnigun

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #266 on: November 07, 2020, 10:23:52 AM »
Oh. But HRV could throw out a bunch of stuff in 2015-2016.

Ya, nothing to see there.

New rules are not retroactive.   If there's bias to something stupid the liberals post now I will be against that to.  I'm anti fake news regardless of sides.

drck1000

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #267 on: November 07, 2020, 10:29:16 AM »
New rules are not retroactive.   If there's bias to something stupid the liberals post now I will be against that to.  I'm anti fake news regardless of sides.
“You know nothing” - Ygritte

hvybarrels

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #268 on: November 07, 2020, 10:41:36 AM »
The media does not control the courts. We still have a ways to go before this gets sorted out. No matter what happens the credibility in our electoral system is broken and people who do not want to get to the bottom of what happened and are shouting for us to "Move On" are not being honest about their intentions.
The F in Communism stands for Food

omnigun

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #269 on: November 07, 2020, 11:10:57 AM »
The media does not control the courts. We still have a ways to go before this gets sorted out. No matter what happens the credibility in our electoral system is broken and people who do not want to get to the bottom of what happened and are shouting for us to "Move On" are not being honest about their intentions.

Is just switching sides. Instead of democrat witch hunt for Russia.  It's Republicans witch hunt for corruption.

Time will see if this witch hunt provides any fruit. 

ren

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #270 on: November 07, 2020, 11:28:08 AM »
Joseph Stalin: “the people who cast the vote decide nothing, the people who count the vote decide everything”
Deeds Not Words

hvybarrels

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #271 on: November 07, 2020, 11:44:01 AM »
The media just destroyed the integrity of our elections and has a lot to answer for. No matter what happens after this point 50% of the population will consider the winner illegitimate. The idea of winning at any costs only appeals to those who are too incompetent to consider what those costs really mean.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #272 on: November 07, 2020, 11:49:51 AM »
The media just destroyed the integrity of our elections and has a lot to answer for. No matter what happens after this point 50% of the population will consider the winner illegitimate. The idea of winning at any costs only appeals to those who are too incompetent to consider what those costs really mean.

My entire life, I've heard and seen one undeniable truth:  The Left believes in "Win at all cost."  They rationalize it by their comments, "We can't do the great things we intend unless we're in power.  So, getting elected has to be our #1 goal."

When they say they are working for the American people, they are lying.  They are working the American people for votes, just so they can implement their agenda.  Most times, we don't really see their agenda in plain sight until they have that power.  Like Hildabeast said, they have one policy position for the public, and one position in private. 

Translation:  We have to lie to the voters, because if we tried to win on the merits of our positions, we would lose every time.

After Obama passed ACA with a House and Senate majority, the next midterm, he lost the House for the Dems.  Next election, he lost the Senate for the Dems.  Next, he lost the Presidency for the Dems.

If Biden is going to become Obama 2.0 on Steroids, we already know what to expect.  No Socialist, Far Left Wing proposal will be too radical, too expensive, or too large. 

Their agenda is all that matters.
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

robtmc

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #273 on: November 07, 2020, 11:51:57 AM »
Their agenda is all that matters.
Bears repeating, it is very true.

drck1000

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #274 on: November 07, 2020, 11:55:24 AM »
My entire life, I've heard and seen one undeniable truth:  The Left believes in "Win at all cost."  They rationalize it by their comments, "We can't do the great things we intend unless we're in power.  So, getting elected has to be our #1 goal."

When they say they are working for the American people, they are lying.  They are working the American people for votes, just so they can implement their agenda/  Most times, we don't really see their agenda in plain sight until they have that power.  Like Hildabeast said, they have on policy position for the public, and one position in private. 

Translation:  We have to lie to the voters, because if we tried to win on the merits of our positions, we would lose every time.

After Obama passed ACA with a House and Senate majority, the next midterm, he lost the House for the Dems.  Next election, he lost the Senate for the Dems.  Next, he lost the Presidency for the Dems.

If Biden is going to become Obama 2.0 on Steroids, we already know what to expect.  No Socialist, Far Let Wing proposal will be too radical, too expensive, or too large.

Their agenda is all that matters.
Or stuff that we've all heard too many times, like "think of the children" and other emotional appeals.  What kills me more is that so many seemingly intelligent folks can't see past the media and other manipulation.  Well, because the news said so, so it HAS to be true.

The drive toward socialism is what I am concerned about most.  Folks like AOC seemingly ever more emboldened and more and more seeing her as a positive beacon for change.  Makes me :barf:  I used to think that Obama could only do so much damage on his own.  Boy I was wrong. 

punaperson

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #275 on: November 07, 2020, 12:18:08 PM »
JUST LIKE STALIN’S GREAT PURGE: AOC Leads Democrat Effort to Create ‘Trump Accountability Project’ Hit List to Pay Back Trump Supporters – Update: sitting judges added to the list



At the behest of ‘squad’ member and New York Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a blacklist of “Trump sycophants”—entitled “The Trump Accountability Project”—is archiving the names of individuals who “elected, served, funded, supported, and represented” President Donald Trump.

macsak

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #276 on: November 07, 2020, 12:24:44 PM »
Alright, you are correct, until next year he is not president.  Unless something major happens he is president-elect.  Not sure where you get your facts from but all major news called the race for him.

say something stupid, and then retract it to say something stupider
sounds like management material to me...

ren

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #277 on: November 07, 2020, 12:42:37 PM »
say something stupid, and then retract it to say something stupider
sounds like management material to me...

'I've done some dumb things, I'll do dumb things again:' - Joe Biden
Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #278 on: November 07, 2020, 12:59:49 PM »
My wish, assuming Trump is a lame duck president now, would be that he pardons every single person who was indicted and/or convicted as part of the Russia Gate hoax.  Not a single person was convicted of anything related to the stated purpose of the investigation.  Anyone indicted during that period was found out in the context of an illegal counter-intelligence investigation predicated on a bogus dossier paid for by Hillary Clinton and the DNC (others??), and the source of which was a suspected Russian spy.  Some were simply victims of a perjury trap, and in Flynn's case, he didn't even lie according the the FBI's own records.

Should the people caught up in the hoax be punished for any crimes they committed before they ever started working on the campaign or administration?  Not if the evidence was obtained with an illegal warrant.  The IG said the warrants had errors, omissions and lies.  Even Comey and others who signed off on the FISA warrants have testified that, knowing what they know now, they would not sign the warrants.  What he meant to say was, "Knowing that the public now knows what they know, I would not risk making false certifications on secret warrants to go after top officials, players and family members in the Trump campaign and administration." 

He should undo the damage the Russia hoax inflicted on its victims, and that goes triple for General Flynn.  He should not allow the deep state to benefit at all from that coup attempt.  If he can, he should also reimburse them for the financial burdens fighting government prosecution entailed.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #279 on: November 07, 2020, 01:48:08 PM »

At the behest of ‘squad’ member and New York Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a blacklist of “Trump sycophants”—entitled “The Trump Accountability Project”—is archiving the names of individuals who “elected, served, funded, supported, and represented” President Donald Trump.


At the moment it is quite concerning that AOC and the left are willing to walk so far out on thin ice. They are setting themselves up for a total mental breakdown if the final results come in differently than they want, and starting out by announcing this sort of Orwellian intimidation and harassment campaign has very serious legal and civil stability implications. It is like they expect everyone to just sit down and take it.
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