What does he expect to happen with vote recounts and going to the Supreme Court?

From the democrats perspective they seem to believe that the votes being counted now are legit mail in ballots that were received on Election Day but because there’s so many they are taking longer to count. If this is the case then the election is over.

What I don’t understand is Trumps argument. Is he saying that these late counted votes are still being submitted after Election Day? Is he saying these ballots are not legit? Let’s say for a second that he’s completely right, how will he prove ballots came in after November 3rd?

The only way I can see these being overturned is if they can prove that a lot of these ballots were arriving after November 3rd. Or that dead registered voter ballots were being submitted by the 10s of thousands.

This is a cluster fuck of an election and the Democrats are to blame with these bullshit mail in ballot rules.

I think it depends on which state. I THINK (because I haven’t spent the time to verify) is in some states, the rules were changed (made up) by election officials, not the state legislature. Or other “officials” that didn’t have the authority to make the changes per the particular state’s constitution, laws, etc.

Will see if the “proof” of fraud comes out. Videos of election officials stuffing ballot boxes, USPS whistle blowers, etc.

Then again, media coverage of “course” will be totally unbiased. But if the roles were reversed...

What does he expect to happen with vote recounts and going to the Supreme Court?

From the democrats perspective they seem to believe that the votes being counted now are legit mail in ballots that were received on Election Day but because there’s so many they are taking longer to count. If this is the case then the election is over.

What I don’t understand is Trumps argument. Is he saying that these late counted votes are still being submitted after Election Day? Is he saying these ballots are not legit? Let’s say for a second that he’s completely right, how will he prove ballots came in after November 3rd?

The only way I can see these being overturned is if they can prove that a lot of these ballots were arriving after November 3rd. Or that dead registered voter ballots were being submitted by the 10s of thousands.

This is a cluster fuck of an election and the Democrats are to blame with these bullshit mail in ballot rules.

He's desperate not to lose.  This is why Republicans are distancing themselves from him.  He's going a bit nuts and screaming fake news. The Supreme Court won't be able to make him president.   I think he should admit defeat so the Republicans can save the senate. That's our real hope.  In 2024 we can get another Republican after the nation sees how bad Biden is. 

I don't see Trump winning this election based on votes, the totals are trending too far off.  You could make a case for hundreds, maybe a few thousand, are fraudulent.  But not 10k+ unless they have good evidence of government sponsored fraud.

I don't see Trump winning this election based on votes, the totals are trending too far off.  You could make a case for hundreds, maybe a few thousand, are fraudulent.  But not 10k+ unless they have good evidence of government sponsored fraud.

This exactly. 

The court cases helps the investigation to happen.  There is a calculated reason for everything,

PA counting kicked out the GOP observers.  They went to court and won and showed up again with the court order.  They were still not allowed in to observe (video proof on line for omni).  By law, observers from both parties have to be present while counting. 

The court cases helps the investigation to happen.  There is a calculated reason for everything,

PA counting kicked out the GOP observers.  They went to court and won and showed up again with the court order.  They were still not allowed in to observe (video proof on line for omni).  By law, observers from both parties have to be present while counting.

Yeah I agree with you guys that should be allowed.  Correct me if I'm wrong but I think are allowed to observe now.  They do have a camera and international election monitors.

Yeah I agree with you guys that should be allowed.  Correct me if I'm wrong but I think are allowed to observe now.  They do have a camera and international election monitors.

I meant that theres video of the GOP observeres showing up to the counting center with the court order and still being denied access.

He's desperate not to lose.  This is why Republicans are distancing themselves from him.  He's going a bit nuts and screaming fake news. The Supreme Court won't be able to make him president.   I think he should admit defeat so the Republicans can save the senate. That's our real hope.  In 2024 we can get another Republican after the nation sees how bad Biden is.

Based on the Dem Progressive agenda, we may be shooting our way back. Between his visible plan and what Harris and the progressive left want to do..... we're fucked

His plan direct from his website https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/#
Hold gun manufacturers accountable.
Ban the manufacture and sale of assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. No more AR or AK or any magazines with more than 10 rounds
Regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act. -That nasty $200 fee per gun and national registration
Buy back the assault weapons and high-capacity magazines already in our communities. Forced confiscation
Reduce stockpiling of weapons. In order to reduce the stockpiling of firearms, Biden supports legislation restricting the number of firearms an individual may purchase per month to one.
Require background checks for all gun sales.
End the online sale of firearms and ammunitions.

And the list goes on

Based on the Dem Progressive agenda, we may be shooting our way back. Between his visible plan and what Harris and the progressive left want to do..... we're fucked

His plan direct from his website https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/#
Hold gun manufacturers accountable.
Ban the manufacture and sale of assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. No more AR or AK or any magazines with more than 10 rounds
Regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act. -That nasty $200 fee per gun and national registration
Buy back the assault weapons and high-capacity magazines already in our communities. Forced confiscation
Reduce stockpiling of weapons. In order to reduce the stockpiling of firearms, Biden supports legislation restricting the number of firearms an individual may purchase per month to one.
Require background checks for all gun sales.
End the online sale of firearms and ammunitions.

And the list goes on

I will not comply. 

Hell, at my age, just a matter of time until something or other kills me.

Based on the Dem Progressive agenda, we may be shooting our way back. Between his visible plan and what Harris and the progressive left want to do..... we're fucked

His plan direct from his website https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/#
Hold gun manufacturers accountable.
Ban the manufacture and sale of assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. No more AR or AK or any magazines with more than 10 rounds
Regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act. -That nasty $200 fee per gun and national registration
Buy back the assault weapons and high-capacity magazines already in our communities. Forced confiscation
Reduce stockpiling of weapons. In order to reduce the stockpiling of firearms, Biden supports legislation restricting the number of firearms an individual may purchase per month to one.
Require background checks for all gun sales.
End the online sale of firearms and ammunitions.

And the list goes on

You're also forgetting the tax per magazine you own.

Based on the Dem Progressive agenda, we may be shooting our way back. Between his visible plan and what Harris and the progressive left want to do..... we're fucked

His plan direct from his website https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/#
Hold gun manufacturers accountable.
Ban the manufacture and sale of assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. No more AR or AK or any magazines with more than 10 rounds
Regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act. -That nasty $200 fee per gun and national registration
Buy back the assault weapons and high-capacity magazines already in our communities. Forced confiscation
Reduce stockpiling of weapons. In order to reduce the stockpiling of firearms, Biden supports legislation restricting the number of firearms an individual may purchase per month to one.
Require background checks for all gun sales.
End the online sale of firearms and ammunitions.

And the list goes on

I agree, but without congress there is only so much he can do.  And if he does executive without laws, the next president on day one can get rid of all executive orders.  So the major fight right now is Georgia and keeping congress red.  Also the supreme court is now very conservative can rule that everything he does anti-gun is against the 2nd amendment.  Without congress he cant pack the courts to change that.  I am currently seeing if there is anything I can do to make sure liberals don't control congress. 

I agree, but without congress there is only so much he can do.  And if he does executive without laws, the next president on day one can get rid of all executive orders.  So the major fight right now is Georgia and keeping congress red.  Also the supreme court is now very conservative can rule that everything he does anti-gun is against the 2nd amendment.  Without congress he cant pack the courts to change that.

You're forgetting, until the XO is deleted, by either new president or court, you still have to abide by it.  Clinton passsed the assault weapons ban that lasted 10 years.  No court over turned it.  So for 10 years it was in effect.  Luckily, I wasn't old enough to own a firearm so it didn't affect me, but I don't want that happening a 2nd time.

I will not comply. 

Hell, at my age, just a matter of time until something or other kills me.

Agreed.
I'm tired of all this Government loving, Progressive
Liberal BS.

I will not comply. 

Hell, at my age, just a matter of time until something or other kills me.

You can also walk around with your balls hanging out and no one really would be mad.  I can't wait until I'm old enough to do that.  But the big questions is will I be aware I'm doing it by choice? 

6,000 trump votes given to democrats due to “software glitch” that was also used in 40+ counties in michigan.

 

Trump is not as worried about winning as he is exposing the corruption that is the Deep State/Democrat Party.

If he files lawsuits, he can depose leaders of the various states.  Under Oath.

If he can get enough evidence that there were irregularities and fraud, regardless of the number of votes proven to be fraudulent, it throws the election result into doubt.  If enough doubt is generated, the Supreme Court could very possibly decide that the election was not held in a proper way.  If they invalidate the results, then the election is given to Congress to decide.  if that happens, Trump wins (House selects President, Senate selects VP).

Example:  If I find a rat in my can of food, and the packing company argues there's no evidence showing a rat getting into that specific can of beans, then it's up to me to prove that it's POSSIBLE that the rat was put in the can at that plant.

I only need to show that the PROCESS on the canning machine line offers the OPPORTUNITY for a rat to make its way into the canning machine.  I could be trying to scam the company for a payday, so they are not going to settle if they think there's no way the animal made it there.

Just like that scenario, Trump doesn't have to prove that X number of ballots that he lost by were fraudulent.  He just has to place enough doubt on the process to prove it was POSSIBLE for fraud to occur.  There are stories of thousands of fraudulent acts at all levels of the process as well as improper security and deliberate lack of transparency across several states.  These proven instances of fraud prove there was an OPPORTUNITY for someone to commit fraud -- POSSIBLY to the degree that it could have changed the outcome.

If Trump is 10K ballots behind, that does NOT prove there were 10K+ extra Biden ballots.  But if the process was not controlled, it does prove that there could have been 5K illegal ballots for Biden, and another 5K+ Trump ballots that might have gone missing.  When you add ballots without tossing a similar number, the vote totals become red flags.  If you get 10K ballots from a precinct of 8K registered voters -- that MIGHT be a problem!

Trump is not as worried about winning as he is exposing the corruption that is the Deep State/Democrat Party.

If he files lawsuits, he can depose leaders of the various states.  Under Oath.

If he can get enough evidence that there were irregularities and fraud, regardless of the number of votes proven to be fraudulent, it throws the election result into doubt.  If enough doubt is generated, the Supreme Court could very possibly decide that the election was not held in a proper way.  If they invalidate the results, then the election is given to Congress to decide.  if that happens, Trump wins (House selects President, Senate selects VP).

Example:  If I find a rat in my can of food, and the packing company argues there's no evidence showing a rat getting into that specific can of beans, then it's up to me to prove that it's POSSIBLE that the rat was put in the can at that plant.

I only need to show that the PROCESS on the canning machine line offers the OPPORTUNITY for a rat to make its way into the canning machine.  I could be trying to scam the company for a payday, so they are not going to settle if they think there's no way the animal made it there.

Just like that scenario, Trump doesn't have to prove that X number of ballots that he lost by were fraudulent.  He just has to place enough doubt on the process to prove it was POSSIBLE for fraud to occur.  There are stories of thousands of fraudulent acts at all levels of the process as well as improper security and deliberate lack of transparency across several states.  These proven instances of fraud prove there was an OPPORTUNITY for someone to commit fraud -- POSSIBLY to the degree that it could have changed the outcome.

If Trump is 10K ballots behind, that does NOT prove there were 10K+ extra Biden ballots.  But if the process was not controlled, it does prove that there could have been 5K illegal ballots for Biden, and another 5K+ Trump ballots that might have gone missing.  When you add ballots without tossing a similar number, the vote totals become red flags.  If you get 10K ballots from a precinct of 8K registered voters -- that MIGHT be a problem!

How would Trump win if Congress was to decide? The house is controlled be democrats.

6,000 trump votes given to democrats due to “software glitch” that was also used in 40+ counties in michigan.

 

How many Republican-run States have these kinds of "glitches?"

Why are these issues always AGAINST the GOP and in FAVOR OF the Dems?

After so many "coincidences", it becomes apparent that these conspiracy theories are not just theories.

How would Trump win if Congress was to decide? The house is controlled be democrats.

the house votes by state...