Election Fraud Evidence Thread (Read 530578 times)

omnigun

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #2140 on: May 29, 2021, 07:35:10 AM »
Sorry buddy but you are part of the problem, interacting at all with that POS just encourages xhim to keep going. I am guilty of it as well. But I am gonna quit, it would be nice if you would as well. There is only a fire if we give it oxygen. Xhe only makes this place dumber and even entertaining dialog with that level of moron gives the 2A community a bad look.

Yeah and you totally give the 2a community a great look 🙄

With all those conspiracies and fakenews. News flash most Americans don't share your train of thought.   Another news flash the majority wins in democracy.   If everyone was like you we would have no 2a. 

I don't post for you.  I post for those who are too afraid to speak up or don't want to fight the echo chamber.   The 2a community isn't just a bunch of thumping trumpets.
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omnigun

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #2141 on: May 29, 2021, 07:41:08 AM »
In COURT (that place that's the only legitimate means of determining the truth), if the police can't demonstrate that the chain of custody was documented and maintained, that evidence will be excluded, because you can't trust evidence that was not 100% controlled by the investigators from collection to presentation.

Given that is the standard, and the chain of custody for these ballots are in question, it's logical that all those ballots are no longer able to be trusted and must be excluded from the tally.

That's the only remedy that makes sense unless chain of custody can be proven through existing documentation.

If you excluded every single questionable ballot because of that you would have no fair elections,  ever.  Unless you video shoot every single ballot 100% of the time.   No election is perfect.  Mail in voting is legitimate even without perfect tracing because there are other ways to prove authenticity. Once received its subject to the same rules of custody.  There has been no major poof otherwise of mass fraud or them being illegitimate.

ren

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #2142 on: May 29, 2021, 07:46:09 AM »
Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #2143 on: May 29, 2021, 10:33:06 AM »
If you excluded every single questionable ballot because of that you would have no fair elections,  ever.  Unless you video shoot every single ballot 100% of the time.   No election is perfect.  Mail in voting is legitimate even without perfect tracing because there are other ways to prove authenticity. Once received its subject to the same rules of custody.  There has been no major poof otherwise of mass fraud or them being illegitimate.

Bullshit.

All the safeguards already built into mail-in and in-person vote casting are negated by the illegal processes during the count.

Stop pretending we are all talking about CASTING BALLOTS.  The problem is with controlling the counting process.

Get a clue.

The rules of custody you cite are being ignored.  We already know that, because the state's in question are refusing to present the evidence they followed chain of custody procedures. 
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Glasser

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #2144 on: May 29, 2021, 03:31:02 PM »
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/arizona-senate-reportedly-considering-additional-audit-maricopa-county-time-including-2020-election-results/

Arizona Senate is Reportedly Considering An Additional Audit of Maricopa County – This Time Including All the 2020 Election Results




changemyoil66

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #2145 on: May 30, 2021, 08:40:52 AM »
The old tale of "human error" being blamed. Like "algorhythum" being blamed.

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omnigun

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #2146 on: May 30, 2021, 10:47:56 AM »
Bullshit.

All the safeguards already built into mail-in and in-person vote casting are negated by the illegal processes during the count.

Stop pretending we are all talking about CASTING BALLOTS.  The problem is with controlling the counting process.

Get a clue.

The rules of custody you cite are being ignored.  We already know that, because the state's in question are refusing to present the evidence they followed chain of custody procedures.

The counting process had rules of custody.  I saw no egregious mistakes.

changemyoil66

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #2147 on: May 30, 2021, 11:08:43 AM »
Didnt know u were there.

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omnigun

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #2148 on: May 30, 2021, 12:50:11 PM »
Didnt know u were there.

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Didn't need to they have logs, cameras etc.  Qualified people.  Passed an audit and I trust the process.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #2149 on: May 30, 2021, 03:30:04 PM »
Didn't need to they have logs, cameras etc.  Qualified people.  Passed an audit and I trust the process.

Cameras are not part of any state's chain of custody evidence.

There are forms required to be completed and attached to every box of ballots. 

AZ already cited pallets of ballot boxes missing boxes that were on the manifests, boxes that were present and not on the manifests, boxes listed on one pallet manifest but packed on another, etc.

Basically, they can't count boxes of ballots with any accuracy, so how can we trust them to count the ballots they contain?

The documentation attached to the ballot boxes are the OFFICIAL custody records.  If they were not properly and accurately updated and managed, then chain of custody was broken.  There's no way to remedy something like that after the fact, no matter how many cameras you BELIEVE exist.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #2150 on: May 30, 2021, 03:31:33 PM »
Didn't need to they have logs, cameras etc.  Qualified people.  Passed an audit and I trust the process.

The last 2 audits didn't count a single ballot.  They tore apart a couple of machines and declared them functional. 

And you trust that?   :crazy: :wtf: :wacko:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #2151 on: May 30, 2021, 04:15:17 PM »
Cameras are not part of any state's chain of custody evidence.

There are forms required to be completed and attached to every box of ballots. 

AZ already cited pallets of ballot boxes missing boxes that were on the manifests, boxes that were present and not on the manifests, boxes listed on one pallet manifest but packed on another, etc.

Basically, they can't count boxes of ballots with any accuracy, so how can we trust them to count the ballots they contain?

The documentation attached to the ballot boxes are the OFFICIAL custody records.  If they were not properly and accurately updated and managed, then chain of custody was broken.  There's no way to remedy something like that after the fact, no matter how many cameras you BELIEVE exist.
He saw no irregularities. Or didnt see amything in AZ.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #2152 on: May 30, 2021, 04:20:56 PM »
He saw no irregularities. Or didnt see amything in AZ.

No one is as blind as he who will not see.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #2153 on: May 30, 2021, 05:23:37 PM »
The last 2 audits didn't count a single ballot.  They tore apart a couple of machines and declared them functional. 

And you trust that?   :crazy: :wtf: :wacko:

If there was mass fraud Georgia did a hand recount.   That's about as good as an audit you can get after the fact.   

Also you sure expect much from people to have an election without any mistakes is impossible.  People make mistakes they are human.  There are millions of ballots, boxes etc. 

You keep pointing minor errors that even if overturned wouldn't change the results.   

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #2154 on: May 30, 2021, 05:43:31 PM »
If there was mass fraud Georgia did a hand recount.   That's about as good as an audit you can get after the fact.   

Also you sure expect much from people to have an election without any mistakes is impossible.  People make mistakes they are human.  There are millions of ballots, boxes etc. 

You keep pointing minor errors that even if overturned wouldn't change the results.

Broken chain of custody = no election integrity.

To you, that's "minor?"
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Glasser

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #2155 on: May 30, 2021, 06:16:28 PM »
Broken chain of custody = no election integrity.

To you, that's "minor?"

Even if you ignore chain of custody, zero explanation of how more ballots were returned than were sent out. Even the scam rule changes where they could claim they gave ballots out at the polls to people registering on the day of the election, each of those would have to be recorded and tied to a person and their personal info, they have no paper work showing that 10s of thousands of people requested one in person at the poll. That alone should be thousands of pounds of paper, also no logs of where the surplus ballots they had on stand by in case of same day registration ended up going.

'handcounting is as good as an audit' is laughable when you cant prove what you are counting were legally cast.

Glasser

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #2156 on: May 31, 2021, 09:05:58 PM »

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #2157 on: May 31, 2021, 09:48:36 PM »
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/alarm-said-have-gone-and-door-left-open-building-holding-georgia-ballots

Alarm went off and door left open at building holding Georgia ballots

But, they have cameras and stuff.

No problem!   :wacko:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aletheuo137

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #2158 on: June 01, 2021, 06:15:54 AM »
But, they have cameras and stuff.

No problem!   :wacko:
Not proven in a court of law!

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Glasser

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #2159 on: June 01, 2021, 07:00:40 AM »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9637813/Texas-Republican-Gov-Greg-Abbot-says-VETO-states-legislatures-budget.html

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott says he will STRIP state lawmakers of their pay and block their budget after Dems 'abandoned their duties' by walking out on the voting rights bill