Daniel Horowitz with Stanford's Dr. Scott Atlas. Podcast: 58 minutes.


America Is Headed Down a Dark Path with Irrational COVID Control

The fix is in – both with the election fraud and with corona science fraud. No matter the evidence, neither party will recognize alternative views and courses of action. Today, I’m joined by Dr. Scott Atlas, former special adviser to President Trump on the coronavirus, to give us a sobering view of where our nation is headed. Dr. Atlas warns that the media is permanently altering the American psyche with irrational thoughts about this virus in a way that we are not seeing even in Europe.

https://www.stitcher.com/show/the-conservative-conscience-with-daniel-horowitz/episode/ep-778-america-is-headed-down-a-dark-path-with-irrational-covid-control-80174464

And of course a Novel virus has to be treated with expensive dangerous vaccines that have been shielded from liability, even though veterinary drugs like ivermectin show way more promise and are a whole lot safer

You're a fucking lying asshole. I asked you to quote and link to one article I've ever posted that verifies the claim you made. You ignore that because you are a deceptive diverting ignoramus lying piece of shit, and, I never posted any such thing. You fail to mention that (that you are a lying piece of shit who can't back up your claims). On top that failure to support your bullshit you post a bunch of ignorant lies about topics that you obviously have no knowledge of whatsoever. Including you making more absurdly ludicrous remarks about "scientists" and "experts" without apparently having the basic knowledge that there are many highly prestigious peer-review published physicians and professors who directly contradict what you claim. (Who you gonna believe Fauci (who hasn't published any actual research papers in forever) or Harvey Risch a professor of epidemiology at Yale School of Public Health with over 300 peer-reviewed publications over 40 years?) Yeah, you'll choose Fauci because you don't even know anything at all about Risch. Fucking moron. Par for the course. I couldn't care less if you bow down, kneel, bend over, or suck whatever the government tells you to because you're a moronic retard sheeple who couldn't think your way out of a wet paper syllogism, but when you support agents of the state imposing your gullible stupidity on others... fuck you.

And those are his/her/its GOOD points!  

 

mean while....

Here's another example of what the Safety Cultists have created... and I bet they're really proud of it. It should be in the realm of the fantasist surrealist... but no, it's fucking real. Throw a family off a plane because their 2-year-old has the sense to refuse to wear a mask.

And to add insult to injury the leftist Democrat also demented irrational censors of "social media" don't want you to know about it (not sure how long the link on youtube will survive). Now why would they not want people to be informed about airline policy? That seems rather peculiar. Or is it just me?

Social Media Bans Video Of United Airlines Kicking Off Toddler Crying Over Mask

United owes its clients compassionate treatment and an evidence-based approach to COVID-19 that doesn’t turn hard situations into impossible ones.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/12/15/social-media-bans-video-of-united-airlines-kicking-off-toddler-crying-over-mask/

Families with toddlers who plan to travel over the holidays may want to avoid booking flights with United Airlines. That is, unless they can be sure any child under two years old can keep a mask on their face for an entire flight. As shown in a recent viral video, United is booting families from their aircraft for toddlers’ “non-compliance” with their mask policy — a policy unfortunately in place, at least in writing, with most other airlines as well.

A young family of three say they were heading to New York to see the Rockefeller Center Christmas tree and to visit family in New Jersey last week when United Airlines forced them off the plane before takeoff because, despite their best efforts, their two-year-old daughter refused to wear a mask.

In a two-minute video posted on Dec. 11, since removed for no apparent reason by Instagram and Twitter, mother and Colorado resident Eliz Orban tearfully describes the experience then inserts footage of her masked husband attempting to put a surgical mask on the little girl while seated in the plane. The girl holds her hands up to her face, cries, and buries her head in his arm to avoid the mask.

[One of the ironies here is that United would not remove the family's checked luggage from the plane, which included the child car seat, thus forcing the family to drive home putting the child's life at greater risk in the event of an accident. You can't make this shit up. smh.]




EDIT: typo... they were thrown off a plane, not a plant... 

And those are his/her/its GOOD points!  

 

I know, I was attempting to be as kind as possible and accentuate the positive.

Damn PunaP.
That shit was well written.
Express yourself much?
Glad you used restraint.

Omni, I don’t rag on you too much, but you’re way in over your head with PunaP and Inspector.
We appreciate the other point of view but you’re gonna need to be at their level.
Right now you’re in the G-league.

not possible that these videos are being deleted since there is no bias on social media sites...

Here's another example of what the Safety Cultists have created... and I bet they're really proud of it. It should be in the realm of the fantasist surrealist... but no, it's fucking real. Throw a family off a plant because their 2-year-old has the sense to refuse to wear a mask.

And to add insult to injury the leftist Democrat also demented irrational censors of "social media" don't want you to know about it (not sure how long the link on youtube will survive). Now why would they not want people to be informed about airline policy? That seems rather peculiar. Or is it just me?

Social Media Bans Video Of United Airlines Kicking Off Toddler Crying Over Mask

United owes its clients compassionate treatment and an evidence-based approach to COVID-19 that doesn’t turn hard situations into impossible ones.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/12/15/social-media-bans-video-of-united-airlines-kicking-off-toddler-crying-over-mask/

Families with toddlers who plan to travel over the holidays may want to avoid booking flights with United Airlines. That is, unless they can be sure any child under two years old can keep a mask on their face for an entire flight. As shown in a recent viral video, United is booting families from their aircraft for toddlers’ “non-compliance” with their mask policy — a policy unfortunately in place, at least in writing, with most other airlines as well.

A young family of three say they were heading to New York to see the Rockefeller Center Christmas tree and to visit family in New Jersey last week when United Airlines forced them off the plane before takeoff because, despite their best efforts, their two-year-old daughter refused to wear a mask.

In a two-minute video posted on Dec. 11, since removed for no apparent reason by Instagram and Twitter, mother and Colorado resident Eliz Orban tearfully describes the experience then inserts footage of her masked husband attempting to put a surgical mask on the little girl while seated in the plane. The girl holds her hands up to her face, cries, and buries her head in his arm to avoid the mask.

[One of the ironies here is that United would not remove the family's checked luggage from the plane, which included the child car seat, thus forcing the family to drive home putting the child's life at greater risk in the event of an accident. You can't make this shit up. smh.]

not a covid cult member, but i have to ask
if you had an anaphylactic reaction to say, eating rice, would you eat it again?

If rice could give me a x% chance less to die yes.   Also if the reaction was a lower chance to die than the protection it offers. 

You're a fucking lying asshole. I asked you to quote and link to one article I've ever posted that verifies the claim you made. You ignore that because you are a deceptive diverting ignoramus lying piece of shit, and, I never posted any such thing. You fail to mention that (that you are a lying piece of shit who can't back up your claims). On top that failure to support your bullshit you post a bunch of ignorant lies about topics that you obviously have no knowledge of whatsoever. Including you making more absurdly ludicrous remarks about "scientists" and "experts" without apparently having the basic knowledge that there are many highly prestigious peer-review published physicians and professors who directly contradict what you claim. (Who you gonna believe Fauci (who hasn't published any actual research papers in forever) or Harvey Risch a professor of epidemiology at Yale School of Public Health with over 300 peer-reviewed publications over 40 years?) Yeah, you'll choose Fauci because you don't even know anything at all about Risch. Fucking moron. Par for the course. I couldn't care less if you bow down, kneel, bend over, or suck whatever the government tells you to because you're a moronic retard sheeple who couldn't think your way out of a wet paper syllogism, but when you support agents of the state imposing your gullible stupidity on others... fuck you.

Now, about that "6 foot (3 feet in parts of Europe)" "social distancing" "following the science" Safety Cult bullshit... and that "gathering size" bullshit...

https://amgreatness.com/2020/04/13/six-feet-under/

Excerpt:

Six Feet Under

There will be plenty of soul searching after this crisis abates: demanding to know the scientific rationale for keeping us six feet apart when people needed each other most should be at the top of the list.

So, precisely what is the science driving this mad world of shuttered public beaches, stormtrooper cops ticketing churchgoers sitting in their own cars, and duct-taped boxes in checkout lines to instruct shoppers where to stand?

It turns out, there is little verifiable evidence to support this government-imposed safe space: The CDC’s COVID-19 guidance portal is disturbingly vague about a policy now fueling the destruction of the U.S. economy and forcing Americans to live under house arrest for the foreseeable future.

And the commonly held fear that a random passerby will infect a stranger? Here’s more grade-school level talk from the CDC: “COVID-19 is thought to spread mainly through close contact from person-to-person in respiratory droplets from someone who is infected. People who are infected often have symptoms of illness. Some people without symptoms may be able to spread the virus.”

Not only would that sort of conclusion warrant a failing grade in any post-doctoral program, I am pretty sure the average eighth-grade science teacher would take a big red pen to that passage. “Thought.” “Some?” “May?” Keep in mind, there are no links to any scientific studies or papers for the average thinking person to review to decide whether those claims are legitimate.

The CDC also can’t quite make up its mind about the safety of large gatherings in the COVID-era. In mid-March, the agency asked Americans to limit gatherings of 250 people or more. A few weeks later, the White House, at the behest of the CDC, urged Americans to avoid gatherings of more than 10 people. There is no science, however, to support either number. (What is so fateful about 250 people? Why not 175? And why 10 people? Why not 16 or 17?)

Even that fuzzy advice has been bastardized by the petty tyrant lurking inside every big state governor, small-town mayor, and homeowners’ association president. Over the weekend, Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer banned people from going to a neighbor’s house. “All public and private gatherings of any size are prohibited,” Whitmer announced. “People can still leave the house for outdoor activities . . . recreational activities are still permitted as long as they’re taking place outside of six feet from anyone else.”

So, from where did the “six-feet” rule originate? Apparently, according to a report in the New York Times, the strategy “saved thousands of lives both during the Spanish flu pandemic of 1918 and, more recently, in Mexico City during the 2009 flu pandemic.”

Ah. Good to know the freest people living in the most technologically advanced period in human history are relying on primitive tools employed more than a century ago to try to stop a virus we still know little about.

No doubt scientists are scrambling to justify the rule. A few early studies suggest that contaminated droplets could stay airborne for a few hours and pose a risk. But that research comes with a caveat: “While this research indicates that viral particles can be spread via bioaerosols, the authors stated that finding infectious virus has proven elusive and experiments are ongoing to determine viral activity in collected samples,” wrote Dr. Harvey Fineberg from the National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine earlier this month.

So it’s unclear why Americans are being instructed to heed the six-foot space. But there is something ironic about the distance: Our economy, our rights, our freedoms, and our sense of security are being buried amid this panic. Government decrees make up a figurative graveyard of stolen futures and livelihoods.

And sadly, because of this reckless policy, even those who have succumbed to this painful disease cannot be properly mourned since funerals have been banned. Some died alone without the comfort of a loved one due to the cruelty of the “social distancing” policy.

There will be plenty of soul-searching after this crisis abates: demanding to know the scientific rationale for keeping us six feet apart when people needed each other most should be at the top of the list.

Both can play at this game. I got plenty of studies too,  just happen to have more people on my side. 

https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1003244

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0239025

https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3223

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7310657/

If rice could give me a x% chance less to die yes.   Also if the reaction was a lower chance to die than the protection it offers.

first of all, i wasn't asking you, this forum, like life, is not all about you

second, you have no concept of what anaphylactic reactions are if you would make that second statement

first of all, i wasn't asking you, this forum, like life, is not all about you

second, you have no concept of what anaphylactic reactions are if you would make that second statement

Not a doctor. I don't know the % risks.  Hence my entire statement of i would go with the lower risk. Would rely on the experts. I know people who have reactions is why the epi pen etc exist.  Also it's was a open ended question so this was my response isn't that exactly the point...

Damn PunaP.
That shit was well written.
Express yourself much?
Glad you used restraint.

Omni, I don’t rag on you too much, but you’re way in over your head with PunaP and Inspector.
We appreciate the other point of view but you’re gonna need to be at their level.
Right now you’re in the G-league.

I don't have the time to write essays and search for millions of articles.   My arguments are not so well worded or expressed. Only got like a minute to make a post many times.  That shouldn't discount my opinions, which many others believe.   Puna sites studies so I'll give him that.  Got more respect for him.  As for inspector I'll just not comment.  I wish to retain civility here.   

Not a doctor. I don't know the % risks.  Hence my entire statement of i would go with the lower risk. Would rely on the experts. I know people who have reactions is why the epi pen etc exist.

focus
all three are not taking the second dose on md orders
i know it's not been adjudicated in a court of law,
but even not real doctors know that's called "a clue"
something you are very clearly lacking 24/7

focus
all three are not taking the second dose on md orders
i know it's not been adjudicated in a court of law,
but even not real doctors know that's called "a clue"
something you are very clearly lacking 24/7

Sigh nvm.... if you can't take what I said out of context. I can't reason with you.   Yes in those cases it was not recommended.   But that doesn't predict all cases.  You can have mild reactions.... Your question was generic.  Didn't say the doctor said not to.   Be specific if you want specific answers.

Both can play at this game. I got plenty of studies too,  just happen to have more people on my side. 

https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1003244

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0239025

https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3223

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7310657/

Turning into a pissing contest!

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Sigh nvm.... if you can't take what I said out of context. I can't reason with you.   Yes in those cases it was not recommended.   But that doesn't predict all cases.  You can have mild reactions.... Your question was generic.  Didn't say the doctor said not to.   Be specific if you want specific answers.

please show me where i asked you a question...

Here's another example of what the Safety Cultists have created... and I bet they're really proud of it. It should be in the realm of the fantasist surrealist... but no, it's fucking real. Throw a family off a plane because their 2-year-old has the sense to refuse to wear a mask.

And to add insult to injury the leftist Democrat also demented irrational censors of "social media" don't want you to know about it (not sure how long the link on youtube will survive). Now why would they not want people to be informed about airline policy? That seems rather peculiar. Or is it just me?

Social Media Bans Video Of United Airlines Kicking Off Toddler Crying Over Mask

United owes its clients compassionate treatment and an evidence-based approach to COVID-19 that doesn’t turn hard situations into impossible ones.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/12/15/social-media-bans-video-of-united-airlines-kicking-off-toddler-crying-over-mask/

Families with toddlers who plan to travel over the holidays may want to avoid booking flights with United Airlines. That is, unless they can be sure any child under two years old can keep a mask on their face for an entire flight. As shown in a recent viral video, United is booting families from their aircraft for toddlers’ “non-compliance” with their mask policy — a policy unfortunately in place, at least in writing, with most other airlines as well.

A young family of three say they were heading to New York to see the Rockefeller Center Christmas tree and to visit family in New Jersey last week when United Airlines forced them off the plane before takeoff because, despite their best efforts, their two-year-old daughter refused to wear a mask.

In a two-minute video posted on Dec. 11, since removed for no apparent reason by Instagram and Twitter, mother and Colorado resident Eliz Orban tearfully describes the experience then inserts footage of her masked husband attempting to put a surgical mask on the little girl while seated in the plane. The girl holds her hands up to her face, cries, and buries her head in his arm to avoid the mask.

[One of the ironies here is that United would not remove the family's checked luggage from the plane, which included the child car seat, thus forcing the family to drive home putting the child's life at greater risk in the event of an accident. You can't make this shit up. smh.]




EDIT: typo... they were thrown off a plane, not a plant... 

while they are talking about masks all of them are touching their faces trying to keep their mask in place....gee....

while they are talking about masks all of them are touching their faces trying to keep their mask in place....gee....

Yeah, it makes it even more of a mockery of absurdity.

I had a "conversation" with 3 members of "management" at a local store regarding their policies on "face coverings". Besides the two "locals" who threatened to kill me at their highest decibel screams, all three of these management experts on mask policy had their masks falling below their nose between one and four times per minute, and of course touching the mask itself, and sometimes their face, to put it back into the 'proper" position. It was very "distracting", because every time it happened I wanted to say "Are you fucking kidding me? Seriously?" One of them, apparently #2 in authority finally just left her mask down below her nose.

Watch Biden touch his mask constantly. When he takes it off he wads it up in his hand and then puts it back on. It's a joke.

How can anyone take these people seriously? I mean besides the fact that all the best quality evidence (randomized controlled trials) clearly demonstrates that masks don't work in preventing viral transmission. Yet this is what rules us. It's pathetic and disgusting.