The COVID Cult (Read 1790778 times)

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1500 on: January 14, 2021, 12:59:57 PM »
https://www.healthdigest.com/307112/the-truth-about-mrna-vaccines/

I'm probably wrong but I like to error on the side of caution

from your link
It is critical to understand that the mRNA does not enter your cell's nucleus and thus doesn't affect or alter your unique DNA.

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1501 on: January 14, 2021, 01:03:06 PM »
https://www.newswars.com/mrna-vaccines-might-prove-catastrophic-in-a-rushed-coronavirus-response/

I might be aware of all the technology, I'm just saying be cautious.

from your link
"Five risks of mRNA vaccines"
none of which are mRNA combine with your DNA...

hvybarrels

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1502 on: January 14, 2021, 01:32:51 PM »
and please site a source more reputable than humansarefree.com next time...

The problem with modern science is that so much of the data is manipulated for profit that even the reputable journals have just as much credibility as the crackpot nature sites.

Also I think you are splitting hairs here with your definitions. This is an experimental drug that messes with your genetic code
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1503 on: January 14, 2021, 01:34:51 PM »
what people do not realize that the federal government is responsible for the vaccine being produced and distributed
the states are responsible for the vaccination procedure itself
the states were told over the summer and in the fall to have their plans ready, and they were not ready when the time came
the holidays and the surge did not help either

the vaccination rate has already increased to over 1 million a day nationwide
so biden's plan to give 100 million doses in 100 days will not be a result of his doing
but TDS/MSM will give all credit to sleepy joe...

He did say one thing, instead of holding back the 2nd dose to give that out and pressure the manufactures to make enough in 30 days time to cover.   The federal government can also procure more vaccine doses.  But you are correct its largely a state effort other than that.

aletheuo137

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1504 on: January 14, 2021, 01:35:53 PM »
Sorry to panic anyone but I came from a time of gene splicing and mapping was prominent. I'm just saying be cautious. I apologize once again.

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aletheuo137

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1505 on: January 14, 2021, 01:37:09 PM »
Further reading on the subject.

https://biologydictionary.net/mrna/

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macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1506 on: January 14, 2021, 01:39:27 PM »
The problem with modern science is that so much of the data is manipulated for profit that even the reputable journals have just as much credibility as the crackpot nature sites.

Also I think you are splitting hairs here with your definitions. This is an experimental drug that messes with your genetic code

not splitting hairs
mRNA does not enter the nucleus, it works in the ribosomes, which are in the cytoplasm
that's basic science...

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1507 on: January 14, 2021, 01:44:16 PM »
He did say one thing, instead of holding back the 2nd dose to give that out and pressure the manufactures to make enough in 30 days time to cover.   The federal government can also procure more vaccine doses.  But you are correct its largely a state effort other than that.

false
all vaccine doses are already presold through summer at least...

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1508 on: January 14, 2021, 01:45:36 PM »
He did say one thing, instead of holding back the 2nd dose to give that out and pressure the manufactures to make enough in 30 days time to cover.   The federal government can also procure more vaccine doses.  But you are correct its largely a state effort other than that.

you don't think that manufacturers aren't already making it as fast as they can?
i guess you are an "economist at heart" too...

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1509 on: January 14, 2021, 01:47:31 PM »
false
all vaccine doses are already presold through summer at least...

Even the other vaccines around the world?  Not sure if any companies can increase production either. 

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1510 on: January 14, 2021, 01:50:28 PM »
Even the other vaccines around the world?  Not sure if any companies can increase production either.

so you made a claim without actually knowing any facts at all?
typical...

changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1511 on: January 14, 2021, 02:01:09 PM »
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1512 on: January 14, 2021, 02:03:09 PM »
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I don't think the dot thing is having its intended effect.

Just ignore him.  He's not even worth the 3 seconds it takes to reply with a single dot.

PERIOD!   :geekdanc:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1513 on: January 14, 2021, 02:05:10 PM »
not splitting hairs
mRNA does not enter the nucleus, it works in the ribosomes, which are in the cytoplasm
that's basic science...

The real issue of concern is unwanted consequence of reprogramming your body to produce proteins in order to stimulate an immune reaction with an experimental drug. What will those new proteins do after a few months? What other effects will the fake RNA have? Nobody has the slightest clue.
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1514 on: January 14, 2021, 02:06:29 PM »
so you made a claim without actually knowing any facts at all?
typical...

Not really...Knowing the final details vs knowing whats possible are 2 different things.  They can build more factories etc,  approve other vaccines.   The possibilities are there.

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1515 on: January 14, 2021, 02:07:54 PM »
The real issue of concern is unwanted consequence of reprogramming your body to produce proteins in order to stimulate an immune reaction with an experimental drug. What will those new proteins do after a few months? What other effects will the fake RNA have? Nobody has the slightest clue.

nobody is questioning that we don't know the long term effects, i even said that earlier
the claim is that mRNA alters your DNA, and it does not
you are not "reprogramming your body"

hvybarrels

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1516 on: January 14, 2021, 02:15:26 PM »
nobody is questioning that we don't know the long term effects, i even said that earlier
the claim is that mRNA alters your DNA, and it does not
you are not "reprogramming your body"

M in mRNA stands for Messenger, and when you side-load a new genetic code it counts as a reprogramming.This is far different from the traditional vaccine approach of introducing an inert pathogen in order to stimulate a natural immune response.
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

drck1000

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1517 on: January 14, 2021, 02:16:31 PM »
I don't think the dot thing is having its intended effect.

Just I resolve to ignore him.  He's not even worth the 3 seconds it takes to reply with a single dot.

PERIOD!   :geekdanc:
FIFY

deyago

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1518 on: January 14, 2021, 02:24:36 PM »
M in mRNA stands for Messenger, and when you side-load a new genetic code it counts as a reprogramming.This is far different from the traditional vaccine approach of introducing an inert pathogen in order to stimulate a natural immune response.

in your body, mRNA is a messenger FROM your DNA to the ribosomes
it reprograms NOTHING
it is not genetic code...

omnigun