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omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2440 on: March 13, 2021, 10:02:38 PM »
Quote from: drck1000 on March 13, 2021, 09:57:19 PM
Interesting to see how things change or more to the point people’s position changes if it’s for others or for them. It’s spring break and seeing lots of people who were the “stay at home”, “everyone needs to isolate”, “why can’t people be considerate” crowd, many are out traveling. Some to areas considered pretty hot COVID wise. I mean if you wanna travel, go for it. Up to you. But interesting to see how folks’ perspectives changes when they are the ones who now want to travel.

Yeah hypocrites are everywhere.   

I still wear a mask and try avoid going out needlessly. Will wait for herd immunity to resume social life.   Vacations on hold till I can be assured my vaccinated self is not a danger to others. 
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Inspector

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2441 on: March 14, 2021, 01:10:09 AM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on March 13, 2021, 05:51:51 PM
Funny how the other factors are never mentioned alongside social distancing, mask mandates, shutdowns of schools and businesses and maximum gathering sizes.  If they did, maybe we could better DECIDE FOR OURSELVES how to best live our lives and still be just as safe.
I have a feeling we are going to see the same thing happen again to CA once (or if) they ever decide to open back up again. My guess is they are going to see another big spike in people getting infected. I just can’t predict what they will do. Will they lockdown again? Which we all know the real science shows it is doing nothing more than kicking that can down the road and prolonging the inevitable. Or will they follow the real science and open back up and allow the virus to take its course? We have enough real evidence to show allowing the virus to run its course is the best policy.

My guess would be if the current governor is still in place he will probably lock them down again. If there is a new one, who knows?
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Inspector

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2442 on: March 14, 2021, 03:22:38 AM »
The COVID Protocol Fauci Credited Trump For Enacting Which (Again) Shreds Another Liberal Media Narrative

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2021/03/13/the-covid-protocol-fauci-credited-trump-for-enacting-which-again-shreds-another-n2586193
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2443 on: March 14, 2021, 01:54:48 PM »
One "other factor" people (Omni) seem to overlook is that laws don't stop behavior.  You can only fine someone if you catch them, often after the "perp" has possibly spread the virus.

If CA passed tons of restrictions, and FL did not, yet the results are similar, it's VERY POSSIBLE the two states were behaving similarly in spite of the restrictions.  Enforcement of laws is always the weakest link when laws are intended to limit behavior.

It's why most gun laws don't stop crimes.  Criminals won't obey, and police won't be able to stop them.  Cops can only make an arrest AFTER the law was broken.  Hence, there was no "deterrence" of the behavior.

Bottom line, people will do what they choose to do.  80% or more already VOLUNTARILY wear masks in public and/or socially distance and wash their hands.  More restrictions simply make life harder on the law abiding.  The others don't follow the rules.  Just like gun laws.
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
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ren

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2444 on: March 14, 2021, 09:43:21 PM »
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2021/03/10/hawaii-news/some-vaccine-recipients-finding-ways-to-jump-line/

Tulonghari and other staff members, who are part of the essential workforce currently eligible for the vaccine, used their ingenuity to find ways to sign up even before the DOE established its own vaccination hub.

But others whose turn have not yet come up are also finding ways to get a shot.

“I know people who are signing up, and they’re finding loopholes. To me I would have a hard time because that’s like, ethically, how could you do that?” she said. “It’s pretty sad when you hear this kind of stuff. It’s not hidden. We all know that people are jumping the line.”

Tulonghari registered over the phone for the vaccination hub at Pier 2 run by Hawaii Pacific Health, but she said she did not have to verify her job when she got there.

”It’s pretty much on the honor system,” she said.

The state Department of Health said it relies on employers to identify who in their companies are front-line essential workers eligible for the shot, and also on vaccinators to verify the people getting inoculated.
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QUIETShooter

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2445 on: March 15, 2021, 07:32:07 AM »
Virus spikes so they lockdown.  Then they open up and virus spikes then they lock down.  Again.  Spike, lockdown.  Spike, lockdown.  On and on.

The economy tanks, people are on edge, jobs are lost, businesses are gone.  Children uneducated, staying at home playing computer games and looking at porn.

Open up with sensible safety protocols in place and stay open. We should have done this a long time ago.

We cannot do the lockdown merry-go round forever.  If the vaccines are what they claim them to be then open the fuck up.
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changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2446 on: March 15, 2021, 08:51:03 AM »
DId Fauci just mention that it's possible that 3 feet is good enough?
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ren

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2447 on: March 15, 2021, 09:51:44 AM »
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robtmc

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2448 on: March 15, 2021, 10:24:33 AM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on March 15, 2021, 08:51:03 AM
DId Fauci just mention that it's possible that 3 feet is good enough?
Wait a day or two and the little attention whore will say something different.
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macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2449 on: March 15, 2021, 10:51:15 AM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on March 15, 2021, 08:51:03 AM
DId Fauci just mention that it's possible that 3 feet is good enough?

it may have been 3 feet all along...
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changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2450 on: March 15, 2021, 01:43:21 PM »
So DOE was right when asking for student desk to be 3 feet instead of the 6 feet that was CDC guideline at the time.  #mindblown
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omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2451 on: March 15, 2021, 02:19:58 PM »
Quote from: ren on March 15, 2021, 09:51:44 AM
We (US taxayers) will vax the world

https://rumble.com/veiq63-biden-asked-when-hell-hold-press-conference-pretends-it-didnt-happen.html?mref=22lbp&mc=56yab&fbclid=IwAR34br959BURjF2dtm3Diu2dgiIUzWn_7g4rP_-tcSlVJ9yhPL1vcqhocdA

That's fine.   Last thing we want is to leave other countries open to mutations that we all know will eventually make it back to us. 
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robtmc

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2452 on: March 15, 2021, 03:50:46 PM »
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punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2453 on: March 15, 2021, 06:20:57 PM »
Tucker's 22 minute open tonight calls out the lying sack of shit Fauci, et al on their bullshit about the "SAFE" "social distance" being 6 feet (based upon 1890s German tuberculosis "research"), except now (another, new) study says it's really 3 feet (which it had always been in some European countries and as Dr. Battacharya points out, was always the distance advocated by WHO). What a steaming pile of bullshit from the asshole fascist authoritarians who wouldn't know science if it bit them in the ass.

This link is for the whole show, but is removed in a few hours... perhaps there will be a link to just the open at that point...

EDIT: here is a link to just the 20 minute open, which may remain available longer than the whole show posted earlier (bottom):




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ren

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2454 on: March 15, 2021, 06:31:58 PM »
so HIDOE was wrong...
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omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2455 on: March 15, 2021, 08:17:13 PM »
Quote from: punaperson on March 15, 2021, 06:20:57 PM
Tucker's 22 minute open tonight calls out the lying sack of shit Fauci, et al on their bullshit about the "SAFE" "social distance" being 6 feet (based upon 1890s German tuberculosis "research"), except now (another, new) study says it's really 3 feet (which it had always been in some European countries and as Dr. Battacharya points out, was always the distance advocated by WHO). What a steaming pile of bullshit from the asshole fascist authoritarians who wouldn't know science if it bit them in the ass.

This link is for the whole show, but is removed in a few hours... perhaps there will be a link to just the open at that point...



Better safe than sorry.  The whole point was there wasn't enough data to make a 100% conclusion, so a reasonable one was taken from past studies. 
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2456 on: March 15, 2021, 08:48:33 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on March 15, 2021, 08:17:13 PM
Better safe than sorry.  The whole point was there wasn't enough data to make a 100% conclusion, so a reasonable one was taken from past studies.

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I must have missed that day when they taught the Theory of "Better Safe Than Sorry" in all my biology and chemistry classes!

 :crazy:

They told us to NOT wear N95 masks at the very beginning when almost NOTHING was known about the virus.  How, EXACTLY did that fall under your theory of BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY? 

They would have told us to wear as much PPE as we had access to until they got a handle on what the real risks are.

But, HEY!  You keep spewing the Bullshit, and we'll be here to tell you just how much it smells!
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2457 on: March 15, 2021, 09:11:27 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on March 15, 2021, 08:48:33 PM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I must have missed that day when they taught the Theory of "Better Safe Than Sorry" in all my biology and chemistry classes!

 :crazy:

They told us to NOT wear N95 masks at the very beginning when almost NOTHING was known about the virus.  How, EXACTLY did that fall under your theory of BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY? 

They would have told us to wear as much PPE as we had access to until they got a handle on what the real risks are.

But, HEY!  You keep spewing the Bullshit, and we'll be here to tell you just how much it smells!


Come on even you has memory still.  They didn't have enough PPE in the beginning.  The medical staff needed it.   That's why they discouraged public use....
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macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2458 on: March 15, 2021, 09:22:33 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on March 15, 2021, 09:11:27 PM

Common even you has memory still.  They didn't have enough PPE in the beginning.  The medical staff needed it.   That's why they discouraged public use....

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ren

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2459 on: March 15, 2021, 09:25:30 PM »
word salads...we've seen this before



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