The COVID Cult (Read 1797835 times)

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3440 on: April 18, 2021, 03:59:03 PM »
Freedom: My body, my choice. (Abortion)

Balance: Your body, my choice. ("Vaccines", (useless) masks, (useless) "social distancing", (useless) limited gathering size, (useless) business closures and/or severe limits, etc.)

See how that works? Makes perfect sense.

If you're a fascist authoritarian statist.

You can't unwillingly catch or transmit an abortion/pregnancy's bro. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3441 on: April 18, 2021, 04:10:27 PM »
You can't unwillingly catch or transmit an abortion/pregnancy's bro.

Choice is choice.

Choose to have sex.

Choose to not wear a mask or get vaxxed.

You seem to be unable to make logical comparisons when the truth is staring you in the face.

You CAN willingly take a risk -- pregnancy, STD or COVID.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3442 on: April 18, 2021, 04:12:37 PM »
science is whatever I say it is
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3443 on: April 18, 2021, 04:14:33 PM »
science is whatever I say it is

I'm starting to think science has been displaced by a new version of Scientology.  Not so much Hubbard's psychological focus as the politically correct state-approved "science."
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3444 on: April 18, 2021, 04:14:38 PM »
Choice is choice.

Choose to have sex.

Choose to not wear a mask or get vaxxed.

You seem to be unable to make logical comparisons when the truth is staring you in the face.

You CAN willingly take a risk -- pregnancy, STD or COVID.

Your choice to not have sex will never get someone pregnant.  Your choice not to get vaxxed or mask might get someone infected.  Big difference dude.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3445 on: April 18, 2021, 04:17:01 PM »
Your choice to not have sex will never get someone pregnant.  Your choice not to get vaxxed or mask might get someone infected.  Big difference dude.

 :crazy: :crazy:  Do you even think before posting?

You said many times that sex is not a choice.  Abstinence doesn't work.   :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3446 on: April 18, 2021, 04:36:16 PM »
some people are risk averse and don't go to the range for fear of that .0099% of getting shot. And some people aren't grateful for the community that taught them how to get a permit...
Deeds Not Words

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3447 on: April 18, 2021, 04:51:26 PM »
:crazy: :crazy:  Do you even think before posting?

You said many times that sex is not a choice.  Abstinence doesn't work.   :rofl:

Abstinence education doesn't work, but sex is still a choice.  And there's this magical thing called condoms and birth control.  Just like there's a magical thing called vaccines.  You know mitigation of risks.  Kinda like how vaccines got rid of smallpox and polio, if only we had the same train of thought as those days.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3448 on: April 18, 2021, 05:11:31 PM »
Abstinence education doesn't work, but sex is still a choice.  And there's this magical thing called condoms and birth control.  Just like there's a magical thing called vaccines.  You know mitigation of risks.  Kinda like how vaccines got rid of smallpox and polio, if only we had the same train of thought as those days.

The chance of catching COVID without a vaccine is lower than the failure rate of ALL forms of contraception.

Not magic.  Science.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3449 on: April 18, 2021, 05:22:11 PM »
The chance of catching COVID without a vaccine is lower than the failure rate of ALL forms of contraception.

Not magic.  Science.

What?  Now that's just a lie. Contraception is 99.7% effective.  Catching covid is not a .3% chance. 

hvybarrels

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3450 on: April 18, 2021, 05:31:53 PM »
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3451 on: April 18, 2021, 05:40:15 PM »
What?  Now that's just a lie. Contraception is 99.7% effective.  Catching covid is not a .3% chance.

Facts are hard!   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Contraception methods -- tiers 1-3:
Tier 1:  1% failure rate
Tier 2:  4%-7% failure rate
Tier 3:  13% failure rate (includes your magical condoms)

Show me where you got a 99.7% effectiveness rate for contraception -- especially for condoms, which you keep posting as the #1 prevention for disease and pregnancy.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3452 on: April 18, 2021, 05:59:34 PM »
What?  Now that's just a lie. Contraception is 99.7% effective.  Catching covid is not a .3% chance.

I'll expect a full apology for calling me a liar....

... from anyone else but you -- Mr. "I'm Never Wrong."

Average failure rate of contraceptives is 12.5%, NOT 0.3% as you LIED.

The probability of catching COVID has many factors when not vaccinated (which is NOT 100% effective).  Social distancing, mask use, size of social and other public groups interacting with, number of actually infected people you come into contact with, etc., etc. 

If you think the vaccine is so effective, then why are vaccinated people still told to wear masks and socially distance?

Since the vaccines are new, there really are no numbers to compare to any other prophylactic for any other health issue.

But, it didn't stop you from arguing using fake facts (i.e. lies you made up).

Just stop trying to argue.  Your M.O. is obvious:  if Google can't help you, you'll make shit up.

 
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3453 on: April 18, 2021, 06:35:54 PM »
I'll expect a full apology for calling me a liar....

... from anyone else but you -- Mr. "I'm Never Wrong."

Average failure rate of contraceptives is 12.5%, NOT 0.3% as you LIED.

The probability of catching COVID has many factors when not vaccinated (which is NOT 100% effective).  Social distancing, mask use, size of social and other public groups interacting with, number of actually infected people you come into contact with, etc., etc. 

If you think the vaccine is so effective, then why are vaccinated people still told to wear masks and socially distance?

Since the vaccines are new, there really are no numbers to compare to any other prophylactic for any other health issue.

But, it didn't stop you from arguing using fake facts (i.e. lies you made up).

Just stop trying to argue.  Your M.O. is obvious:  if Google can't help you, you'll make shit up.

Obviously as I previously mentioned the two main types, condoms and birth control.  We will be using those as a baseline. Combined its over 99%.  You are correct I can't find that exact number anymore, maybe it changed since I was in middle school. 

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/contraception/how-effective-contraception/

I would stand to say masks and other means are still employed because you don't know who has the vaccine and who doesnt, with all that hate on passports.  If everyone is vaccinated masks etc are not needed, as recently proven with science.  But since you are not psychic you must enforce the protocols on everyone.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3454 on: April 18, 2021, 06:42:11 PM »
Obviously as I previously mentioned the two main types, condoms and birth control.  We will be using those as a baseline. Combined its over 99%.  You are correct I can't find that exact number anymore, maybe it changed since I was in middle school. 

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/contraception/how-effective-contraception/

I would stand to say masks and other means are still employed because you don't know who has the vaccine and who doesnt, with all that hate on passports.  If everyone is vaccinated masks etc are not needed, as recently proven with science.  But since you are not psychic you must enforce the protocols on everyone.

Bullshit!

Hey, Genius.  Wake up!

You say you are vaccinated.  If so, then why do you care who else is vaccinated?  If the vaccine is effective as advertised, then you can run naked in a crowd of homeless people and not care about being infected -- by COVID at least!

But, that's NOT the message the political leaders (Fauci and Biden) are spreading, is it?

Both have been vaccinated, and both are wearing masks and distancing?  Why?  Are they not confident the vaccine is going to prevent infection?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3455 on: April 18, 2021, 06:48:08 PM »
Bullshit!

Hey, Genius.  Wake up!

You say you are vaccinated.  If so, then why do you care who else is vaccinated?  If the vaccine is effective as advertised, then you can run naked in a crowd of homeless people and not care about being infected -- by COVID at least!

But, that's NOT the message the political leaders (Fauci and Biden) are spreading, is it?

Both have been vaccinated, and both are wearing masks and distancing?  Why?  Are they not confident the vaccine is going to prevent infection?


People lie,  just like some here on this forum.  You are against passports so how do you prove?  If everyone takes safety measures than you don't have to "ask for proof".  Since you and others are against passports that prolongs the mask and distancing mandates.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3456 on: April 18, 2021, 06:54:27 PM »

People lie,  just like some here on this forum.  You are against passports so how do you prove?  If everyone takes safety measures than you don't have to "ask for proof".  Since you and others are against passports that prolongs the mask and distancing mandates.

Not talking about anyone else but YOU.

"People lying" is now a reason to not trust the vaccine YOU said YOU received?

Passports is a whole other topic.  This is about how effective the vaccine is/should be/is not.  Nothing else.

FOCUS.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3457 on: April 18, 2021, 06:58:10 PM »
Not talking about anyone else but YOU.

"People lying" is now a reason to not trust the vaccine YOU said YOU received?

Passports is a whole other topic.  This is about how effective the vaccine is/should be/is not.  Nothing else.

FOCUS.

Trust the vaccine,  don't trust the people saying they got it.  Without you know proof....just like how people don't trust people on how old they are when they buy alcohol....

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3458 on: April 18, 2021, 07:12:03 PM »
Obviously as I previously mentioned the two main types, condoms and birth control.  We will be using those as a baseline. Combined its over 99%.  You are correct I can't find that exact number anymore, maybe it changed since I was in middle school. 

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/contraception/how-effective-contraception/

I would stand to say masks and other means are still employed because you don't know who has the vaccine and who doesnt, with all that hate on passports.  If everyone is vaccinated masks etc are not needed, as recently proven with science.  But since you are not psychic you must enforce the protocols on everyone.

so you state "99.7%" as if it's a fact, then when challenged you say it's a number you remember from "middle school"
in your world, that's "a mistake"
in our world, that's "making shit up"

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3459 on: April 18, 2021, 07:25:46 PM »