The COVID Cult (Read 1797606 times)

macsak

changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3461 on: April 18, 2021, 07:55:24 PM »
Bullshit!

Hey, Genius.  Wake up!

You say you are vaccinated.  If so, then why do you care who else is vaccinated?  If the vaccine is effective as advertised, then you can run naked in a crowd of homeless people and not care about being infected -- by COVID at least!

But, that's NOT the message the political leaders (Fauci and Biden) are spreading, is it?

Both have been vaccinated, and both are wearing masks and distancing?  Why?  Are they not confident the vaccine is going to prevent infection?
Some people didnt know that even if both are vaxxed, mask and 6ft is still needed.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3462 on: April 18, 2021, 07:58:46 PM »
Trust the vaccine,  don't trust the people saying they got it.  Without you know proof....just like how people don't trust people on how old they are when they buy alcohol....

Why do YOU need to trust that I have had the vaccine?  Are you not vaccinated?  Are you one of the liars you were mentioning?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3463 on: April 18, 2021, 09:04:23 PM »
another video omnigun won't watch

ren

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3464 on: April 18, 2021, 10:03:17 PM »
Bullshit!

Hey, Genius.  Wake up!

You say you are vaccinated.  If so, then why do you care who else is vaccinated?  If the vaccine is effective as advertised, then you can run naked in a crowd of homeless people and not care about being infected -- by COVID at least!

But, that's NOT the message the political leaders (Fauci and Biden) are spreading, is it?

Both have been vaccinated, and both are wearing masks and distancing?  Why?  Are they not confident the vaccine is going to prevent infection?

On Point! I'm vaxed - the only thing I worry about is stupid people...so why do I have to wear a face diaper? It's been over a month now. It's not about flattening the curve anymore because when I checked the IHME model it still shows a flat curve.
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punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3465 on: April 19, 2021, 07:04:37 AM »
The SAFETY CULT can't allow actual science to be made public... because real data from quality real-world randomized controlled trials (RCTs... Fauci's gold standard) belies their lies. Again and again and again. But the sheeple keep their heads down (and shut down) and go along. Again and again and again. smh.

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/steve-cortes-suspended-for-mentioning-stanford-nih-study-on-masks/

Steve Cortes suspended for mentioning Stanford NIH study on masks…

Twitter has suspended @CortesSteve for citing a Stanford NIH study about masks. pic.twitter.com/2y460zkN0Z

— Raheem Kassam (@RaheemKassam) April 17, 2021




Here's an excerpt from an article (a systematic review of TEN RCTs) that appeared on the CDC website the day prior to the AMA article above.



And a reminder of the Dutch RCT published in March 2021:

https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/pdf/10.7326/M20-6817





omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3466 on: April 19, 2021, 07:12:50 AM »

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3467 on: April 19, 2021, 07:14:50 AM »
Why do YOU need to trust that I have had the vaccine?  Are you not vaccinated?  Are you one of the liars you were mentioning?

Why do YOU need to trust that the person buying booze is 21?  Why do YOU need to trust that the driver of a vehicle has a license?  I am vaxxed, I got proof.   But its not about only me.  Its about public safety.

Still haven't answered how you intend to prove without a passport that someone is vaxxed.  Or are we now operation on pure "trust". 

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3468 on: April 19, 2021, 07:16:44 AM »
so you state "99.7%" as if it's a fact, then when challenged you say it's a number you remember from "middle school"
in your world, that's "a mistake"
in our world, that's "making shit up"

No.  99% effective rate + 9X effective rate = higher than 99%.  I don't know the fancy math to figure out the exact number.   But 99.7 sounds very plausible.  Some people had sex education class in middle school.

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3469 on: April 19, 2021, 07:24:52 AM »
Here's an article on the Stanford study that got Steve Cortes banned...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/stanford-study-results-facemasks-ineffective-block-transmission-covid-19-actually-can-cause-health-deterioration-premature-death/

Stanford Study Results: Facemasks are Ineffective to Block Transmission of COVID-19 and Actually Can Cause Health Deterioration and Premature Death

A recent Stanford study released by the NCBI, which is under the National Institutes of Health, showed that masks do absolutely nothing to help prevent the spread of COVID-19 and their use is even harmful.

NOQ Report uncovered the study:

Did you hear about the peer-reviewed study done by Stanford University that demonstrates beyond a reasonable doubt that face masks have absolutely zero chance of preventing the spread of Covid-19? No? It was posted on the the National Center for Biotechnological Information government website. The NCBI is a branch of the National Institute for Health, so one would think such a study would be widely reported by mainstream media and embraced by the “science-loving” folks in Big Tech.

Instead, a DuckDuckGo search reveals it was picked up by ZERO mainstream media outlets and Big Tech tyrants will suspend people who post it, as political strategist Steve Cortes learned the hard way when he posted a Tweet that went against the face mask narrative. The Tweet itself featured a quote and a link that prompted Twitter to suspend his account, potentially indefinitely.

The NCBI study begins with the following abstract:

Many countries across the globe utilized medical and non-medical facemasks as non-pharmaceutical intervention for reducing the transmission and infectivity of coronavirus disease-2019 (COVID-19). Although, scientific evidence supporting facemasks’ efficacy is lacking, adverse physiological, psychological and health effects are established. Is has been hypothesized that facemasks have compromised safety and efficacy profile and should be avoided from use. The current article comprehensively summarizes scientific evidences with respect to wearing facemasks in the COVID-19 era, providing prosper information for public health and decisions making.

The study concludes (emphasis added):

The existing scientific evidence challenges the safety and efficacy of wearing facemask as preventive intervention for COVID-19. The data suggest that both medical and non-medical facemasks are ineffective to block human-to-human transmission of viral and infectious disease such SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19, supporting against the usage of facemasks. Wearing facemasks has been demonstrated to have substantial adverse physiological and psychological effects. These include hypoxia, hypercapnia, shortness of breath, increased acidity and toxicity, activation of fear and stress response, rise in stress hormones, immunosuppression, fatigue, headaches, decline in cognitive performance, predisposition for viral and infectious illnesses, chronic stress, anxiety and depression. Long-term consequences of wearing facemask can cause health deterioration, developing and progression of chronic diseases and premature death. Governments, policy makers and health organizations should utilize proper and scientific evidence-based approach with respect to wearing facemasks, when the latter is considered as preventive intervention for public health.

Here is the table for physiological and psychological effects of wearing a facemask:



Here is the full study [appears in scribd in the actual article url above]:

Facemasks in the COVID-19 era: A health hypothesis by Baruch Vainshelboim by Jim Hoft on Scribd

What an absolute joke.  American has been led down an insane path of wearing masks that don’t prevent the transmission of COVID-19 and cause more health risk than ever imagined.

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3470 on: April 19, 2021, 07:27:31 AM »
No.  99% effective rate + 9X effective rate = higher than 99%.  I don't know the fancy math to figure out the exact number.   But 99.7 sounds very plausible.  Some people had sex education class in middle school.

so you challenge my numbers when i am not giving a range of dates for the SVT/J&J, yet it's ok for you to site an exact number and then admit you "don't know the fancy math"?
but you still aren't wrong...

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3471 on: April 19, 2021, 07:31:14 AM »
This could be us....if only....

https://nypost.com/2021/04/18/israel-ends-outdoor-mask-mandate/

you realize that israel is less than 55% covered by the vaxx, and the rate is going up at only 0.1-0.2% a day?
must be the republicans that are resistant to masks...

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3472 on: April 19, 2021, 07:37:54 AM »
Here's a brief article on the Stanford study concluding that face masks are virtually useless to prevent viral transmission (everyone has known this forever), AND have negative physical and psychological health consequences. This article includes a full copy of the study itself because the study is currently published on a .gov website, and there is a possibility that it could be censored since it conflicts with the current government propaganda about masks.

Stanford study quietly published at NIH.gov proves face masks are absolutely worthless against Covid

The diapers most of us are wearing on our face most of the time apparently have no effect at stopping Covid-19. This explains a lot.


https://noqreport.com/2021/04/17/stanford-study-quietly-published-at-nih-gov-proves-face-masks-are-absolutely-worthless-against-covid/?utm_source=econ

Here is the link to the actual study as published on the .gov website.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3473 on: April 19, 2021, 07:40:28 AM »
you realize that israel is less than 55% covered by the vaxx, and the rate is going up at only 0.1-0.2% a day?
must be the republicans that are resistant to masks...
Pretty sure it is that substantial percentage of the Israeli population that are Proud Boys and Oath Keepers that account for the low vaxxer turnout.

QUIETShooter

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3474 on: April 19, 2021, 07:46:09 AM »
I was watching news on the vaccination centers. 

What a social clusterfuck, lol!  Well, they did say 6 ft. can now be 3 ft.  Who knows, maybe now it's 18 inches.

Gotta check with "dr." fauci and his CDC friends.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Glasser

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3475 on: April 19, 2021, 07:55:20 AM »
The irony of masks is that OSHA regs say a company cannot issue respiratory PPE to employees without a health clearance verifying the PPE will not affect their breathing. Also you cannot issue no name random PPE, it all has to be certified for compliance. Canada recently found out that a bunch of the masks they got from China, that they issued to school children, had carbon fibers in the fabric that were not properly encapsulated. Kids where getting those fibers into their lungs. Enjoy the next wave of Asbestos type lawsuits from those kids in 30 yrs.

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3476 on: April 19, 2021, 08:00:31 AM »
"Good job. Keep it up folks. Just 14 more years. Keep watching CNN. Never question anything. Believe the government. One mask doesn't work, but two masks work. Thanks for not killing grandma."  :rofl:

aletheuo137

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3477 on: April 19, 2021, 08:40:41 AM »
New Rule: Give It to Me Straight, Doc | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)



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omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3478 on: April 19, 2021, 08:43:21 AM »
so you challenge my numbers when i am not giving a range of dates for the SVT/J&J, yet it's ok for you to site an exact number and then admit you "don't know the fancy math"?
but you still aren't wrong...

I literally said I was wrong citing the exact 99.7% chance but I am not wrong with it being over 99.X chance.

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3479 on: April 19, 2021, 08:44:54 AM »
you realize that israel is less than 55% covered by the vaxx, and the rate is going up at only 0.1-0.2% a day?
must be the republicans that are resistant to masks...

Did you even read the article? Come on its the first paragraph...

"Israel ended its outdoor mask mandate Sunday, now that about 80 percent of its adult population has received both doses of Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine, reports said. "