The COVID Cult (Read 1797945 times)

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3560 on: April 20, 2021, 06:06:32 AM »
I asked why YOU need to wear a mask?

You replied with, "They don't need to."

Oh.  My mistake.  "They" is your/their preferred pronoun.

THEY should have that listed in THEIR signature ... for clarity.

 ::)  I don't need to.  You know I am part of the larger vaccinated group.  Was trying to make it not all about me.  With your obsession and capitalisation of YOU. But I see that went over YOUR head.  :rofl: :rofl:

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3561 on: April 20, 2021, 07:15:02 AM »
All the "vaccinated" people better read the medical literature so they know that being vaccinated does NOT protect against getting infected and transmitting the disease to another person (i.e. a "vaccine passport/documentation" is useless in regard to the protection of other people surrounding the "vaccinated"). The Israeli study that included hundreds of thousands of people determined that the Pfizer-BioNTech drug ("vaccine") only prevented acquisition and transmission of SARS-CoV-2 by 50-60%. That means, if the "vaccinated" become infected, even asymptomatically, they have a 40-50% chance of transmitting it to surrounding humans.

Details people. Pay attention. After "vaccination", you still need to wear mask(s), "social distance", limit "gathering size", quarantine after travel, etc., etc., etc.

We ALL have the goal of SAFETY, correct?

Apparently Moron Ige has not read (or I guess more correctly, his staff hasn't told him) the literature, as his to-be-announced-today "vaccine passport" interisland travel program doesn't take the facts into account. But what else is new?

"Follow the science"... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

aletheuo137

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3562 on: April 20, 2021, 07:21:12 AM »
Back on track!

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6716J

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3563 on: April 20, 2021, 07:25:06 AM »
Masks..... f'n useless. Unless you plan to create more problems. Finally a study published by the government will be read by someone. But probably not Fauci. Too much money to make and power to give up.

Facemasks in the COVID-19 era: A health hypothesis

I'll just skip to the conclusion.

Conclusion
The existing scientific evidences challenge the safety and efficacy of wearing facemask as preventive intervention for COVID-19. The data suggest that both medical and non-medical facemasks are ineffective to block human-to-human transmission of viral and infectious disease such SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19, supporting against the usage of facemasks. Wearing facemasks has been demonstrated to have substantial adverse physiological and psychological effects. These include hypoxia, hypercapnia, shortness of breath, increased acidity and toxicity, activation of fear and stress response, rise in stress hormones, immunosuppression, fatigue, headaches, decline in cognitive performance, predisposition for viral and infectious illnesses, chronic stress, anxiety and depression. Long-term consequences of wearing facemask can cause health deterioration, developing and progression of chronic diseases and premature death. Governments, policy makers and health organizations should utilize prosper and scientific evidence-based approach with respect to wearing facemasks, when the latter is considered as preventive intervention for public health.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3564 on: April 20, 2021, 07:27:30 AM »
All the "vaccinated" people better read the medical literature so they know that being vaccinated does NOT protect against getting infected and transmitting the disease to another person (i.e. a "vaccine passport/documentation" is useless in regard to the protection of other people surrounding the "vaccinated"). The Israeli study that included hundreds of thousands of people determined that the Pfizer-BioNTech drug ("vaccine") only prevented acquisition and transmission of SARS-CoV-2 by 50-60%. That means, if the "vaccinated" become infected, even asymptomatically, they have a 40-50% chance of transmitting it to surrounding humans.

Details people. Pay attention. After "vaccination", you still need to wear mask(s), "social distance", limit "gathering size", quarantine after travel, etc., etc., etc.

We ALL have the goal of SAFETY, correct?

Apparently Moron Ige has not read (or I guess more correctly, his staff hasn't told him) the literature, as his to-be-announced-today "vaccine passport" interisland travel program doesn't take the facts into account. But what else is new?

"Follow the science"... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

The key part is to get everyone vaccinated.  Once that happens then it doesn't matter as much if you catch covid or spread as the vaccine prevents most major symptoms and hospitalizations. Which is the real goal.  To prevent deaths not infection. 

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3565 on: April 20, 2021, 07:38:42 AM »
16 and up vaccination slots only full through wednesday
must be all those republicans in hawaii...

Glasser

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3566 on: April 20, 2021, 07:39:14 AM »
Its pretty hilarious that everyone is focusing on the mask study and has completely ignored the CDC recently admitted that the China Virus cant be transmitted by surfaces. So all those bottles of bleach and lysol and millions of dollars in plexiglass were a huge waste of money. Do you see the CDC going out of its way to tell anyone about this? I bet all those plastic shields and sanitizing  stations at markets stay up another 2 year even tho they dont do anything.

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3567 on: April 20, 2021, 08:18:41 AM »
Masks..... f'n useless. Unless you plan to create more problems. Finally a study published by the government will be read by someone. But probably not Fauci. Too much money to make and power to give up.

Facemasks in the COVID-19 era: A health hypothesis

I'll just skip to the conclusion.

Conclusion
The existing scientific evidences challenge the safety and efficacy of wearing facemask as preventive intervention for COVID-19. The data suggest that both medical and non-medical facemasks are ineffective to block human-to-human transmission of viral and infectious disease such SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19, supporting against the usage of facemasks. Wearing facemasks has been demonstrated to have substantial adverse physiological and psychological effects. These include hypoxia, hypercapnia, shortness of breath, increased acidity and toxicity, activation of fear and stress response, rise in stress hormones, immunosuppression, fatigue, headaches, decline in cognitive performance, predisposition for viral and infectious illnesses, chronic stress, anxiety and depression. Long-term consequences of wearing facemask can cause health deterioration, developing and progression of chronic diseases and premature death. Governments, policy makers and health organizations should utilize prosper and scientific evidence-based approach with respect to wearing facemasks, when the latter is considered as preventive intervention for public health.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/
I posted that yesterday or the day before. Maybe if 4,000 or 5,000 more people post it here and everywhere else it can be posted some idiot in a position of responsibility will read it, and be able to comprehend it (chance of that? slim and none?) and do something sane, rational, and logical following the data and evidence and rescind the ridiculous "mandates" of the always known inefficacy of any kind of "mask" to prevent viral transmission. Maybe send it to all the state legislators, gov, lt. gov, AG, etc.? Why would they start to care about the facts at this point? smh.

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3568 on: April 20, 2021, 08:33:34 AM »
Its pretty hilarious that everyone is focusing on the mask study and has completely ignored the CDC recently admitted that the China Virus cant be transmitted by surfaces. So all those bottles of bleach and lysol and millions of dollars in plexiglass were a huge waste of money. Do you see the CDC going out of its way to tell anyone about this? I bet all those plastic shields and sanitizing  stations at markets stay up another 2 year even tho they dont do anything.
I've commented previously on the fact that the cashiers wearing gloves touching everyone's money and items as they scan them would only be useful if they changed gloves after every customer... but they wear the same gloves for long periods and touch money in the cash register from other customers when dealing with any particular customer (credit card payments the exception re drawer money). So... more useless "SAFETY theater".

In Hilo Target, Walmart, Safeway, Home Depot have all removed the store customer size limit... where there was someone at the only entrance counting those going in and out so that the population inside the store never went over a certain number (per square foot... love to know how they each came up with their "magic number that is SAFE"). They have also removed the "one way" aisle travel indicators. They have also removed the separation  tape from the checkout lines.

I have asked locally and at the corporate level what data these decisions to remove the previously necessary SAFETY measures were based upon. Not one single one of them has an answer, or at least they are unwilling to give me the answer.

The people making these decisions are all full of shit ignoramuses and liars. Including at the political, medical, and corporate levels. I've had enough forehead-slapping head-shaking eye-rolling conversations with all those categories of people to know that they are all ignorant. But... they're in control. This is what we get as a result.

Expect to see the hand sanitizer dispensers and shopping cart wipe downs fade away in due time, just like the hand sanitizer enforcers already have... just 14 more years! smh.

changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3569 on: April 20, 2021, 09:38:24 AM »
I've commented previously on the fact that the cashiers wearing gloves touching everyone's money and items as they scan them would only be useful if they changed gloves after every customer... but they wear the same gloves for long periods and touch money in the cash register from other customers when dealing with any particular customer (credit card payments the exception re drawer money). So... more useless "SAFETY theater".



Many people don't know how gloves work. I've seen many wearing gloves into a store then going out the store into their car and digging into their pockets or purse for their car keys with the same gloves on. "Gloves are so you don't touch your face by habbit", another BS told to the people.

changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3570 on: April 20, 2021, 09:39:13 AM »
Its pretty hilarious that everyone is focusing on the mask study and has completely ignored the CDC recently admitted that the China Virus cant be transmitted by surfaces. So all those bottles of bleach and lysol and millions of dollars in plexiglass were a huge waste of money. Do you see the CDC going out of its way to tell anyone about this? I bet all those plastic shields and sanitizing  stations at markets stay up another 2 year even tho they dont do anything.

I've been clorox wiping stuff for years prior to COVID.  Usually get weird looks on the plane, but often there is 1 other person doing the same and we give each other the nod.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3571 on: April 20, 2021, 11:00:05 AM »
::)  I don't need to.  You know I am part of the larger vaccinated group.  Was trying to make it not all about me.  With your obsession and capitalisation of YOU. But I see that went over YOUR head.  :rofl: :rofl:

YOU still did not answer the question.

I guess YOU just don't have an answer.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3572 on: April 20, 2021, 11:52:02 AM »
Excerpt from the Hawaii County Civil Defense VIRUS!!! Alert today:

County of Hawai'i COVID-19 Alert

Tue, Apr 20 at 9:41 AM

This is an important message from Hawaii County Alerts and Notifications:

This is a Civil Defense message.

This is a COVID-19 informational update for Tuesday, April 20th.

The Department of Health also reports that slots are available for anyone 18 years and older at the vaccination PODs and at local pharmacies. 

[Supply (even with the J&J taken away) outstrips demand. I guess all the Republicans (and/or what other "group?) must be refusing the "vaccinations"... they're intent on murdering grandma!]

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3573 on: April 20, 2021, 12:01:42 PM »
Only a few people... nothing to see here, move along. And be SAFE!!!

https://nypost.com/2021/04/20/herpes-infection-possibly-linked-to-covid-19-vaccine/

Herpes infection possibly linked to COVID-19 vaccine, study says

Herpes infection possibly linked to COVID-19 vaccine, study says

Herpes infections may be a side effect of a COVID-19 vaccine, experts have revealed.

Scientists in Israel identified six cases in a new study of patients developing a skin rash known as herpes zoster — or shingles — after receiving the Pfizer vaccine, according to a study in the Rheumatology journal.

Herpes zoster starts off as a small, itchy skin rash, but if left untreated, it could cause nerve damage and pain, the Jerusalem Post reported.

This can include a prolonged burning sensation on the skin even after the rash disappears.

Researchers from Tel Aviv Sourasky Medical Center and Carmel Medical Center in Haifa found those with autoimmune inflammatory rheumatic diseases had a higher risk of developing the herpes infection.

Glasser

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3574 on: April 20, 2021, 12:05:08 PM »
I've been clorox wiping stuff for years prior to COVID.  Usually get weird looks on the plane, but often there is 1 other person doing the same and we give each other the nod.

I think it's great that people are proactive about their own health. But no peanuts in schools or planes, lying and saying 2nd Hand smoke kills and forcing people to take an experimental medicine to be able to move around are all a bunch of bullshit. If you have health problems that make you more fragile than 98% of the population that is between you and your doctor to manage, not a matter of public or institutional policy.

Don't forget these are the same MFers who say you have a medical right to take your pet everywhere because you'll get sad if you dont.

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3575 on: April 20, 2021, 12:35:55 PM »
Unfortunately no amount of actual scientific data and evidence will dissuade the SAFETY CULT from their obsessive maniacal mission to promote tyranny in the form of fascist authoritarian statism. NO AMOUNT! Since there's been a huge amount of evidence and data from the very beginning about some of these questions...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/stanford-study-noting-ineffectiveness-harm-masks-censored-twitter-now-second-study-published-cdcs-website-confirms-masks-cause-serious-side-effects/

SECOND STUDY This Time From CDC WEBSITE Confirms Stanford Study on Face Masks Being Harmful – Cause Serious Side Effects

More support for health concerns with wearing masks has been uncovered.  This report was published and presented at the CDC website in June 2020. 
It was brought to our attention today, that a report was published at the Hayride in March that is similar to our report from yesterday noted below:

In March, the Hayride reported [https://thehayride.com/2021/03/rand-paul-criticizes-dr-fauci-over-mask-mandate-newly-uncovered-cdc-document-shows-adverse-effects/] on the results of another mask study posted on June 10, 2020, at the CDC website.  This study [https://blogs.cdc.gov/niosh-science-blog/2020/06/10/ppe-burden/] confirms our reporting from yesterday that masks aren’t just a nuisance but can cause serious health problems. The article recently uncovered was published by the CDC and it states in black and white the side-effects of wearing a mask, specifically related to the masks trapping carbon dioxide or CO2.  The article states the masks cause breathing resistance that could result in a reduction in the frequency and depth of breathing, known as hypoventilation, in as little as an hour of wearing a mask.  The article further went on to elaborate on the side-effects of increased CO2 concentrations in the mask wearer that include:

Headache;
Increased pressure inside the skull;
Nervous system changes (e.g., increased pain threshold, reduction in cognition – altered judgement, decreased situational awareness, difficulty coordinating sensory or cognitive, abilities and motor activity, decreased visual acuity, widespread activation of the sympathetic nervous system that can oppose the direct effects of CO2 on the heart and blood vessels);
Increased breathing frequency;
Increased “work of breathing”, which is result of breathing through a filter medium;
Cardiovascular effects (e.g., diminished cardiac contractility, vasodilation of peripheral blood vessels);
Reduced tolerance to lighter workloads.

The Hayride reports:

The Hayride has covered this in the past specifically regarding the cognitive loss caused by COVID masks trapping CO2 where according to a Harvard Study breathing in as little as 945 PPM of CO2 lowers cognitive ability 15% and at 1400 PPM of CO2 cognitive ability reduces by 50%… What is also disturbing is not only the brain damage that is caused by the masks, but the adverse cardiovascular effects on the heart and lungs along with the reduction of blood sugar and dehydration.

We also discovered that the Stanford report from our article yesterday was censored by Twitter last week when former Trump campaign staffer, Steve Cortes, tweeted out the results of this study.

Why are US medical experts not telling Americans of the dangers of wearing masks?   Why is Big Tech censoring this message?

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3576 on: April 20, 2021, 12:42:31 PM »
From Tom Woods today:

If for some reason you've been trying to keep track of the craziest things said this year, well, I've got one that belongs at least in the top five.

MSNBC's Joe Scarborough was not happy with Congressman Jim Jordan (R-OH), who recently grilled Dr. Fauci and demanded specific answers as to when Americans could lead normal lives again.

Congressman Jordan described the various interventions as assaults on American liberties.

But according to Scarborough, this is all nonsense.

No liberties were taken away!

You think I must be joking. Woods, you say, surely you have misunderstood Joe Scarborough!

Here are his words:

"No personal liberties were taken away. The Supreme Court has reviewed the cases. The courts have reviewed cases. It's sheer idiocy playing for the lowest common denominator."

It almost takes your breath away, the sheer stupidity, does it not?

The Supreme Court has reviewed the cases?

So I can't tell if my liberties have been violated or not until the Supreme Court graciously informs me?

And what a surprise: a branch of government that tells us whether the government has violated our rights has decided that it hasn't! Well, then, that's all I need to hear!

Scarborough went on: "Jim Jordan peddles the suggestion that Anthony Fauci somehow is the problem instead of a coronavirus that's spread across America and killed 550,000 people."

Of course, like his fellow lizard people, Scarborough acts as if it's simply obvious that the so-called mitigation measures did any good. Yes, Joe, Fauci "somehow" is the problem, since the states whose policies he recommended did no better than states he castigated, and he has spent virtually the entirely of the past 13 months acting as if lockdowns and restrictions cause no damage worth noticing.

Oh, and speaking of which, why don't we check in with Texas, over two weeks since that Texas Rangers game that had everyone up in arms. Surely a "superspreader" event, right? (And for fun, let's put the California/Florida rivalry in there as well.)



(Source: nytimes .com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html)

I'm sure everyone who predicted the apocalypse in Texas will promptly apologize.

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3577 on: April 20, 2021, 05:39:24 PM »
I can't wait to hear Fauci's commentary rebuking these people for not wearing masks (except one) and no social distancing, and gathering larger than 10 indoors. Man is he going to rip them a new one!

Oh, wait... nevermind.

ren

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3578 on: April 20, 2021, 06:15:38 PM »
I can't wait to hear Fauci's commentary rebuking these people for not wearing masks (except one) and no social distancing, and gathering larger than 10 indoors. Man is he going to rip them a new one!

Oh, wait... nevermind.



they all got vaxed...well except that one guy...there's always that ONE guy
Deeds Not Words

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3579 on: April 20, 2021, 06:29:41 PM »
they all got vaxed...well except that one guy...there's always that ONE guy
The vaccinated still have a substantial probability of both becoming infected and transmitting THE VIRUS! (see above including Yale School of Public Health professor of epidemiology Harvey Risch). That's why Fauci says you still have to wear masks, social distance, limit gathering size even if you've been vaccinated.

But some people are SPECIAL... I guess. (e.g. all the Black Lies Matter/Antifa peaceful protests where social justice outweighs the public health mandates).