The COVID Cult (Read 1798051 times)

Glasser

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3640 on: April 22, 2021, 08:03:45 PM »
straws are banned...because for the honu

On a related note I was at the NOAA facility on Ford Island where they rehab injured marine critters (mostly Monk Seals and Sea Turtles), and I asked the Scientists 'You ever find a turtle with a straw stuck in its nose?'. Answers was a lot of laughing and 'No. Not once, Ever."

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3641 on: April 22, 2021, 08:12:22 PM »
On a related note I was at the NOAA facility on Ford Island where they rehab injured marine critters (mostly Monk Seals and Sea Turtles), and I asked the Scientists 'You ever find a turtle with a straw stuck in its nose?'. Answers was a lot of laughing and 'No. Not once, Ever."
Yeah, BUT... since Fauci, Gore, Kerry, Greta, et al., all the liars and fascist propagandists, on a variety of subjects all subscribe to extreme interpretations of The Precautionary Principle... there doesn't need to be a single case of anything actually having happened to justify any kind of draconian suppression, the only criteria is: "Can they imagine it?"

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3642 on: April 22, 2021, 08:21:53 PM »
Coming soon to a city, county and/or state near you!

Only fully "vaccinated" people are allowed in the building. The number of people allowed in the building at one time is four. They must wear masks and social distance. That's the same idiotic rules as for all people, including the un"vaccinated" in nearly all the Democrat-controlled states, counties and cities. That means there is no difference in the "restrictions" imposed, except now they've moved the goalposts so that those restrictions are no longer adequate (after a year of imposing them for "SAFETY" reasons...LOL), and those people are now banned from in person shopping. Yeah, that makes sense. Since they know that the "vaccinated" can still become infected AND transmit the virus, they have to wear masks and social distance. But why ban the non-"vaccinated", who pose a similar risk... and have all the past year? smh. "Follow the science." Yeah, right...

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/alaskan-village-bans-unvaccinated-people-from-in-person-shopping

Alaskan village bans unvaccinated people from in-person shopping
People who have not received experimental coronavirus shots, however, 'can still make phone orders and their orders are delivered to their home.'


BETHEL, Alaska, April 22, 2021, (LifeSiteNews) – Kongiganak, a village of fewer than 500 people in Alaska, is requiring inhabitants, the vast majority of whom are Native Americans, to be fully vaccinated to be eligible for any in-person shopping.

According to the AP, over a third of Kongiganak residents have contracted the Wuhan coronavirus and two have died from (or with) it. But it is unclear how many of those who supposedly contracted the virus had symptoms or if they were severe.         

Sheila Phillip, the Kongiganak Traditional Council secretary, said, “people who are fully vaccinated can go inside the village's two stores if they wear masks and follow social distancing guidelines.”

People who have not received experimental coronavirus shots, however, “can still make phone orders and their orders are delivered to their home,” Phillip said.

Harvey Paul, general manager for Qemirtalek Coast Corporation, which sells groceries, allows only four people at a time into his store. Paul explained that a list is provided by the tribe with names of vaccinated people. Those entering the store need to be on the list to be allowed to shop.

“Every couple of days, they’ll give us a new list,” Paul said. “The list keeps getting bigger and bigger. That is a good sign, you know?” Paul believes forcing people to be vaccinated in order to buy food and other goods in-person is a good thing.

“It gives them the incentive, ‘Hey look, I better get vaccinated too so I can go to the store,’” Paul said. “The best way to curb this virus is to get vaccinated.”

Nearby stores in the Bethel and other Yukon-Kuskokwim Delta villages allow non-vaccinated shoppers to enter the store. However, the Yukon-Kuskokwim Fitness Center is also practicing segregation. It reopened on March 1, but only to fully vaccinated individuals.

Fitness Center Facility Director Stacey Reardon explained in an interview with KYUK Public Media the plans for verifying vaccinated individuals: “At check in, everybody needs to show their CDC vaccination card and a photo ID [RACIST!!!].”

However, a building full of vaccinated-only people does not mean masks are optional. Reardon said, “Everybody needs to wear masks all the time. And there [are] only two exceptions to that: while swimming and while showering.”

It is unclear if any exceptions will be made for pregnant women or people who are allergic to ingredients in the coronavirus vaccines, which are not approved by the Food and Drug Administration but have only been granted Emergency Use Authorization (EUA). It is also unclear if people who went into anaphylactic shock right after receiving the vaccine or had another severe reaction to it and thus did not receive a second dose will ever be permitted in the “vaccinated-only” stores.

Glasser

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3643 on: April 22, 2021, 08:26:29 PM »
Yeah, BUT... since Fauci, Gore, Kerry, Greta, et al., all the liars and fascist propagandists, on a variety of subjects all subscribe to extreme interpretations of The Precautionary Principle... there doesn't need to be a single case of anything actually having happened to justify any kind of draconian suppression, the only criteria is: "Can they imagine it?"

Con Artists only ever target the gullible and the greedy, they give a very wide birth to everyone else. hence the reason Liberals refuse to debate their policies, instead claim 'Science' and call you a Racist for not believing them.

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3644 on: April 22, 2021, 09:40:27 PM »
The nazis in 1936 had studies also that showed jews are bad and stuff like that. Germany is not a 3rd world country either. Well educated people took part in it. Thats what some people dont understand and never learned what was done, nor paid attention during history class.

Many assume it will be exactlly the same as in 1936, only failing to realize the similarities. And they only look for 100% similarities (execution of 1 race).

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Do you think Israel doesn't know this?  And would think really hard before implementing measures?  Also people tend to forget we have done this before with no major issues with other pandemics. 

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3645 on: April 22, 2021, 09:41:54 PM »
Riiiiigggghhhhhtttt
"That being said so far antibody response looks to remain high even after 6+ months after the 3rd shot it may not need to be annual. "

Yeah the point being?  I am still not incorrect in my statements. 

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3646 on: April 22, 2021, 09:47:30 PM »
Yeah the point being?  I am still not incorrect in my statements.

please show me where anyone has gotten a third shot, much less "6+ months"
that's my point

are you still not incorrect?
or are you wrong?

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3647 on: April 22, 2021, 09:57:26 PM »
please show me where anyone has gotten a third shot, much less "6+ months"
that's my point

are you still not incorrect?
or are you wrong?

Those are not connected statements.  There should be a comma.  I was wrong for that misunderstanding. I was referring to the original shots showing antibodies for 6+ months.  So it would be safe to assume a 3rd shot will still be showing antibodies far out so you would be protected and may not need additional annual shots of any covid vaccine.

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3648 on: April 22, 2021, 10:07:55 PM »
Those are not connected statements.  There should be a comma.  I was wrong for that misunderstanding. I was referring to the original shots showing antibodies for 6+ months.  So it would be safe to assume a 3rd shot will still be showing antibodies far out so you would be protected and may not need additional annual shots of any covid vaccine.

please show me studies showing antibodies for "6+ months"

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3649 on: April 22, 2021, 10:09:09 PM »

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3650 on: April 22, 2021, 10:10:15 PM »
Those are not connected statements.  There should be a comma.  I was wrong for that misunderstanding. I was referring to the original shots showing antibodies for 6+ months.  So it would be safe to assume a 3rd shot will still be showing antibodies far out so you would be protected and may not need additional annual shots of any covid vaccine.

please show how "it would be safe to assume"...

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3651 on: April 22, 2021, 10:11:30 PM »
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2103916

your google-fu is weak...

i guess you not only didn't read the study, you didn't even read the title
"Antibody Persistence through 6 Months"

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3652 on: April 23, 2021, 06:10:15 AM »
your google-fu is weak...

i guess you not only didn't read the study, you didn't even read the title
"Antibody Persistence through 6 Months"

We since they can't predict the future and the study was for 6 months.  But as we have many people still immune we can safely say it lasts longer than 6 months.  It's not like after that study on the first day everyone's immunity magically disappeared....

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3653 on: April 23, 2021, 06:59:26 AM »
We since they can't predict the future and the study was for 6 months.  But as we have many people still immune we can safely say it lasts longer than 6 months.  It's not like after that study on the first day everyone's immunity magically disappeared....

i didn't ask for assumptions, i asked for a study
focus

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3654 on: April 23, 2021, 07:24:24 AM »
i didn't ask for assumptions, i asked for a study
focus

There is no exact study for 6months + X days study.   There is however statistics on how many are infected with covid while vaccinated and that number is within the predicted margins including the early beta testers vaccinated folk.  Other than that we can't predict the future there is not enough time to do longer studies as the vaccine is relatively new.

Glasser

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3655 on: April 23, 2021, 07:48:25 AM »
https://www.kark.com/news/local-news/arkansas-woman-says-she-was-fired-for-refusing-to-get-covid-19-vaccine/

Arkansas woman says she was fired for refusing to get COVID-19 vaccine

“I am always that one out of every 10 or so that has a bad reaction. I am that one– so I would just rather not,” said Wise. “I don’t have good reaction with a lot of medicine.”

Executive Director Robbin Rahman, did not comment directly on Wise’s termination, however, told us in a statement there were a number of factors that played a role. He also made clear as a condition of employment, everyone must receive the vaccine.




Sounds like a great way to get sued.

So much for the 'You should be able to put anything in your body you want" portion of Marijuana Advocacy.

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3656 on: April 23, 2021, 07:50:22 AM »
There is no exact study for 6months + X days study.   There is however statistics on how many are infected with covid while vaccinated and that number is within the predicted margins including the early beta testers vaccinated folk.  Other than that we can't predict the future there is not enough time to do longer studies as the vaccine is relatively new.

you made the statement as if it were truth
i asked you to prove it with a study
you didn't
you didn't equivocate until proven wrong
as per usual...

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3657 on: April 23, 2021, 08:33:51 AM »
https://www.kark.com/news/local-news/arkansas-woman-says-she-was-fired-for-refusing-to-get-covid-19-vaccine/

Arkansas woman says she was fired for refusing to get COVID-19 vaccine

“I am always that one out of every 10 or so that has a bad reaction. I am that one– so I would just rather not,” said Wise. “I don’t have good reaction with a lot of medicine.”

Executive Director Robbin Rahman, did not comment directly on Wise’s termination, however, told us in a statement there were a number of factors that played a role. He also made clear as a condition of employment, everyone must receive the vaccine.




Sounds like a great way to get sued.

So much for the 'You should be able to put anything in your body you want" portion of Marijuana Advocacy.

I doubt they will get sued.  There is precedent that you must have certain vaccines to work or go to school.  So it appears its within his rights as an employer to do so.  Only gray area is that the vaccine does not have full FDA approval.

Not sure how you are equating Pot to the vaccine.  One is recreational and should be allowed on off work time and doesn't effect work.  The other decreases the risk of other employees.

changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3658 on: April 23, 2021, 09:06:34 AM »
https://www.kark.com/news/local-news/arkansas-woman-says-she-was-fired-for-refusing-to-get-covid-19-vaccine/

Arkansas woman says she was fired for refusing to get COVID-19 vaccine

“I am always that one out of every 10 or so that has a bad reaction. I am that one– so I would just rather not,” said Wise. “I don’t have good reaction with a lot of medicine.”

Executive Director Robbin Rahman, did not comment directly on Wise’s termination, however, told us in a statement there were a number of factors that played a role. He also made clear as a condition of employment, everyone must receive the vaccine.


Since it's under emergency use, she should have a good case to win.  But if it were not under emergency use, then she would have no chance. 



Sounds like a great way to get sued.

So much for the 'You should be able to put anything in your body you want" portion of Marijuana Advocacy.


Since it's under emergency use, she should have a good case to win.  But if it were not under emergency use, then she would have no chance. 

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3659 on: April 23, 2021, 09:13:18 AM »
How can anyone with a scintilla of rational logical reasoning capacity take any of this seriously? smh. If the masks "work", and are "necessary", why would people be allowed to remove them when seated within inches of other people while they eat and drink? How does that logically follow from the premises? Sounds like a SUPERSPREADER event to me... well, except for the Texas Rangers game many weeks ago where the stadium was full, every seat filled, and no one required to wear a mask, and from the photos of the event, almost no one wearing a mask, and.... nothing happened. The Dodgers: Gathering size limit? Throw that out, not needed, because, whatever. "Social distance" requirement? Throw that out, not needed, because, whatever. Sanitizing requirement? Throw that out, because, whatever. Masks? Hell yes, keep that mitigation measure, because, whatever. Yeah, I know, I have a fetish for rationality and logic and deriving conclusions based upon those criteria and the provable facts/data/evidence... so sue me. In the meantime... smh. Again.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/los-angeles-dodgers-offering-special-seats-fully-vaccinated-fan-section-face-mask-still-required/

Los Angeles Dodgers Offering Special Seats in ‘Fully Vaccinated Fan Section’ – Face Mask Still Required

California officials recently announced that venues can create a caste system and make special sections for vaccinated people so they don’t have to sit near dirty lepers.

The Los Angeles Dodgers are offering special seats in a ‘fully vaccinated fan section’ for Saturday’s game against the Padres.

Fully vaccinated people attending Saturday’s game still have to wear face masks, but they won’t be required to social distance.

KTLA reported:

If you’re fully inoculated against COVID-19 and you can prove it, you are eligible to sit in a special section at Dodger Stadium designated for ticket holders who have received vaccines.

The tickets in the Loge level’s “fully vaccinated fan section” are currently only available for Saturday’s game against the San Diego Padres, according to the Los Angeles Dodgers website. Before entry into the vaccinated section, fans must show proof that at least two weeks have passed since their final dose of a COVID-19 vaccine.

Once inside the designated section, those who are fully vaccinated will not be required to social distance. Instead, people who are seated in the section will be seated right next to other parties. Face coverings are required to be worn in the fully vaccinated-only sections, but they can be removed for eating and drinking if a person is in their designated seat.