The COVID Cult (Read 1798328 times)

Glasser

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3760 on: April 28, 2021, 07:38:43 AM »
Horses mouth



And we know those numbers are cooked because of the CDC rigged what doctors could put as cause of death.

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3761 on: April 28, 2021, 08:12:02 AM »
Horses mouth



And we know those numbers are cooked because of the CDC rigged what doctors could put as cause of death.
  So it's far worse than the flu
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2019-2020.html

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3762 on: April 28, 2021, 08:36:18 AM »

Was done before,  was done in other countries.  Had successes.  Worked here.   Social Distancing and quarantines work,  science knows that.  It doesn't work when a few idiots don't follow the rules.

please explain how it "worked" in india, where they have  poor conditions, low economic status, horrible medical facilities (some a good/great, but the availability to the masses is non-existent)

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3763 on: April 28, 2021, 08:58:57 AM »
please explain how it "worked" in india, where they have  poor conditions, low economic status, horrible medical facilities (some a good/great, but the availability to the masses is non-existent)

Obviously it didn't work, and plenty rule breakers.  It "worked" in china in the extreme when everyone was forced to obey.  The concept of a quarantine is sound and will work 100% of the time if done 100% properly.  The less proper you do it then less chance of success.

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3764 on: April 28, 2021, 08:59:26 AM »
please explain how it "worked" in india, where they have  poor conditions, low economic status, horrible medical facilities (some a good/great, but the availability to the masses is non-existent)
And just to debunk any claim that "they didn't follow the rules", here I'll repost re India from Tom Woods the other day... India "followed the rules" as well as or better than most other nations...



macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3765 on: April 28, 2021, 12:19:58 PM »
Obviously it didn't work, and plenty rule breakers.  It "worked" in china in the extreme when everyone was forced to obey.  The concept of a quarantine is sound and will work 100% of the time if done 100% properly.  The less proper you do it then less chance of success.

ah, but look at the chart puna provided
the two charts do not coincide...

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3766 on: April 28, 2021, 12:37:33 PM »
Obviously it didn't work, and plenty rule breakers.  It "worked" in china in the extreme when everyone was forced to obey.  The concept of a quarantine is sound and will work 100% of the time if done 100% properly.  The less proper you do it then less chance of success.
ah, but look at the chart puna provided
the two charts do not coincide...
Anyone who claims that any data coming from China re any aspect of SARS-CoV-2 is valid is a moron and/or CCP sympathizer if not advocate. Remember when WHO AND Fauci BOTH claimed they had been assured by their Chinese contacts in the medical scientific community dealing with the issue that SARS-CoV-2 was NOT TRANSMISSIBLE BETWEEN HUMANS. And they both assured the public that those contacts were reliable. Lying sacks of shit. The Chinese and WHO and Fauci.

Where did the shift from "social distancing" to "quarantine" take place? Nice try moron. Well, not really. Nothing you do in the area of rational logical "argument" is near competent.

All the charts from all the countries, states, and counties with differing "mitigation measures" and differing time frames of imposing and removing them, and with differing levels of "compliance", all show that the mitigation measures, no matter how well adhered to did not, and do not, change the rate of infection or hospitalization or deaths.

Go ahead, give the citations for three peer reviewed randomized controlled trials that conclude that "social distancing" (I don't care if you choose the European "distance(s)" of 3 feet or 1 1/2 feet or the American 6 feet. Three citations.

changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3767 on: April 28, 2021, 01:32:36 PM »
ah, but look at the chart puna provided
the two charts do not coincide...

You're making too much sense.  How do I embed the Jackie Chan meme of mind blown?

#feelingsoverstats
#howamiacommunist

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3768 on: April 28, 2021, 02:58:26 PM »
Anyone who claims that any data coming from China re any aspect of SARS-CoV-2 is valid is a moron and/or CCP sympathizer if not advocate. Remember when WHO AND Fauci BOTH claimed they had been assured by their Chinese contacts in the medical scientific community dealing with the issue that SARS-CoV-2 was NOT TRANSMISSIBLE BETWEEN HUMANS. And they both assured the public that those contacts were reliable. Lying sacks of shit. The Chinese and WHO and Fauci.

Where did the shift from "social distancing" to "quarantine" take place? Nice try moron. Well, not really. Nothing you do in the area of rational logical "argument" is near competent.

All the charts from all the countries, states, and counties with differing "mitigation measures" and differing time frames of imposing and removing them, and with differing levels of "compliance", all show that the mitigation measures, no matter how well adhered to did not, and do not, change the rate of infection or hospitalization or deaths.

Go ahead, give the citations for three peer reviewed randomized controlled trials that conclude that "social distancing" (I don't care if you choose the European "distance(s)" of 3 feet or 1 1/2 feet or the American 6 feet. Three citations.

New Zealand.  We can trust them.   Quarantines and isolation work, that's how labs work.  We have proof of that.   Don't ignore that and emphasize the foot distance.  Quarantines aka lockdowns aka social distancing. Quarantines are just the extreme end of the various tools to stop spread. 

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3769 on: April 28, 2021, 03:07:10 PM »
New Zealand.  We can trust them.   Quarantines and isolation work, that's how labs work.  We have proof of that.   Don't ignore that and emphasize the foot distance.  Quarantines aka lockdowns aka social distancing. Quarantines are just the extreme end of the various tools to stop spread.

quarantines and lockdowns are not the same as social distancing...

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3770 on: April 28, 2021, 03:08:11 PM »
New Zealand.  We can trust them.   Quarantines and isolation work, that's how labs work.  We have proof of that.   Don't ignore that and emphasize the foot distance.  Quarantines aka lockdowns aka social distancing. Quarantines are just the extreme end of the various tools to stop spread.

you said china
not you are changing to new zealand?
focus

and you still haven't explained india...

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3771 on: April 28, 2021, 03:14:51 PM »
you said china
not you are changing to new zealand?
focus

and you still haven't explained india...

Both countries implemented quarantines.  I was not exclusively bringing up either or.

India did not do proper mass quarantines, there is multiple examples of many not following covid restrictions.

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3772 on: April 28, 2021, 03:37:39 PM »
Both countries implemented quarantines.  I was not exclusively bringing up either or.

India did not do proper mass quarantines, there is multiple examples of many not following covid restrictions.

so how come the numbers in india were so low throughout the spring?
and why did they go down so much in the fall?
and why are the numbers only going up so far now???

Glasser

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3773 on: April 28, 2021, 04:52:42 PM »
Moron doesn't know that the words Quarantine, Medical Isolation and 'Lock Downs' aren't synonyms.  He also doesn't understand the first 2 are legitimate Medical techniques, the 3rd is a political weapon.

He also  doesn't know India is famous for fertilizing
their crops with raw sewage and deficating in and burning their dead next to their sources of drinking water. Wearing BVDs on the face while staying home from work for a year isn't going to fix their health care.

ren

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3774 on: April 28, 2021, 05:12:28 PM »
some people don't know what they don't know - dumb and naive
Deeds Not Words

hvybarrels

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3775 on: April 28, 2021, 05:20:16 PM »
Obey your totalitarian overlords. They will keep you safe from all harm.
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3776 on: April 28, 2021, 05:27:07 PM »
some people don't know what they don't know - dumb and naive

but it is never wrong...

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3777 on: April 28, 2021, 05:45:54 PM »
https://babylonbee.com/news/progressive-church-unveils-stained-glass-window-of-dr-fauci

Local Progressive Church Unveils Stained Glass Window Of Dr. Fauci



SAN FRANSISCO, CA—Locals are applauding after the unveiling of a brand new stained glass window at Gender Justice Cathedral, a local Episcopal church. The elaborate new window depicts Dr. Anthony Fauci, the new patron saint of virus protection, vaccinations, and all science.

"We are proud to show this gorgeous new masterpiece to the world," said Bishop Txm Castrx at the unveiling ceremony. "We hope you can all come next Sunday for our vaccination celebration event and bask in the warm light of its glory."

The upcoming event will feature a traditional indigenous moon alignment dance and a 30-minute hot yoga session before "vaccine communion" is distributed to women and people of color. The faithful will then be allowed to kiss a sacred relic: a face mask that was actually worn by Fauci himself.

"We are excited about this event, but we ask that white men please refrain from attending so they do not invade the sacred and protected space we have created," said Bishop Castrx.

According to sources, some people laughed at the new Fauci stained glass window-- likely because they hate science.

Glasser

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3778 on: April 28, 2021, 06:47:36 PM »
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/angry-parents-take-arizona-school-district-board-meeting-protest-mask-mandate-children-cowardly-board-members-take-off-video/

Angry Parents Take Over Arizona School District Board Meeting to Protest Mask Mandate for Children – Cowardly Board Members Take Off!





ren

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #3779 on: April 28, 2021, 07:02:09 PM »
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/angry-parents-take-arizona-school-district-board-meeting-protest-mask-mandate-children-cowardly-board-members-take-off-video/

Angry Parents Take Over Arizona School District Board Meeting to Protest Mask Mandate for Children – Cowardly Board Members Take Off!




that would never happen here...from what I gather in my observations, parents like having their kids wear masks in school; most parents believe masks are 1000000% effective against that 10% chance the vax doesn't work. They are clearly afraid.
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