The COVID Cult (Read 1799512 times)

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #4800 on: June 07, 2021, 12:07:12 PM »
please show me where i said vaccines don't work...

Refer to your post,  when I said vaccines work and you replied about lottos "not working".

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #4801 on: June 07, 2021, 12:07:55 PM »
"that idiot" posted a graph from CDC showing how much the numbers are dropping despite the "successful lotteries"

You are aware that no matter what numbers will be dropping, its about how fast....

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #4802 on: June 07, 2021, 12:08:54 PM »
This is why vaccine lottery prizes may work for some, according to psychology experts

That's just a theory.  No evidence they are correct.

People who buy lottery tickets hoping to be lucky enough to win are accepting the minimal risk of losing a couple of bucks.

People who are willing to risk their health on a vaccine that may cause permanent health problems or which hasn't been proven as effective as advertised is not going to be as willing to take the chance of winning a one-in-a-million lottery prize.  The majority will be taking the vaccine with no actual reward.

The uptick in vaccinations can be explained by many variables, such as people wishing to travel this Summer.  Others may have waited to see if there are any widespread reports of bad side effects.  Claiming "Lotteries" is the sole factor is stupid.  Only an idiot would believe that.

Please show where I said a sole factor. 

I said they do work,  not that they are the only thing that works...

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #4803 on: June 07, 2021, 12:10:39 PM »
Please show where I said a sole factor. 

I said they do work,  not that they are the only thing that works...

So, you are admitting there's no evidence lotteries work. 

If that's not the case, then provide EVIDENCE.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #4804 on: June 07, 2021, 12:11:50 PM »
Deeds Not Words

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #4807 on: June 07, 2021, 12:22:43 PM »
You are aware that no matter what numbers will be dropping, its about how fast....

i thought increasing eligibility was going to make demand go up
oh wait, the lottery will make demand go up
so now you claim that you think that the numbers will drop no matter what
goalposts------->moved even further

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #4808 on: June 07, 2021, 12:24:07 PM »
Refer to your post,  when I said vaccines work and you replied about lottos "not working".

focus
if i replied about lottos "not working", how did you interpret that to mean i was implying that the vaccine is not working
#doneverywellcareerwise

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #4809 on: June 07, 2021, 12:25:11 PM »
i thought increasing eligibility was going to make demand go up
oh wait, the lottery will make demand go up
so now you claim that you think that the numbers will drop no matter what
goalposts------->moved even further

Both those increase demand,  it did not make it go up, but decreased the fall.  Hard to prove a negative.  Without benchmark to see how it would be without those implemented.  Neither program can cause negative effects to overall vaxx rates.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #4810 on: June 07, 2021, 12:25:22 PM »
I've linked many before....

https://www.wired.com/story/wait-vaccine-lotteries-actually-work/

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/vaccine-lotteries-are-working-experts-explain-why-222901456.html

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/vaccinate-with-confidence/rca-guide/downloads/CDC_RCA_Guide_2021_Tools_AppendixG_InterventionTables-508.pdf

So, instead of facts and studies on the effectiveness and safety of the vaccines, you believe people will be more motivated by greed?

Maybe that's because the facts and studies are not as positive as you think they are.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #4811 on: June 07, 2021, 12:26:31 PM »
Both those increase demand,  it did not make it go up, but decreased the fall.  Hard to prove a negative.  Without benchmark to see how it would be without those implemented.  Neither program can cause negative effects to overall vaxx rates.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #4812 on: June 07, 2021, 12:28:08 PM »
So, instead of facts and studies on the effectiveness and safety of the vaccines, you believe people will be more motivated by greed?

Maybe that's because the facts and studies are not as positive as you think they are.

Facts and studies prove its safe and effective.  Idiots and the lazy, can be motivated by greed.  The rest are borderline lost hope and must be convinced by necessity.

changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #4813 on: June 07, 2021, 12:28:11 PM »
I'm still waiting on the post where I said lotto's don't work or that I was skeptical about lotto's working. 

Where's the goal post?  It got lost due to not being able to find the info that I said.

changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #4814 on: June 07, 2021, 12:33:43 PM »
Facts and studies prove its safe and effective.  Idiots and the lazy, can be motivated by greed.  The rest are borderline lost hope and must be convinced by necessity.

Convinced by what other means?  Facts and studies didn't work. Greed also didn't work.  Do you mean forced to take a vaxx if they want to do X, Y, or Z?  So cops show up and hold said person down while they get the vaxx?

4% of Korea is vaxxed as of last month. 0.005 of Taiwan as of last month.  Japan was 2% as of last month. Compared to 40% of the USA and about 50% of the UK as of last month.  What's wrong with Asia?

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #4815 on: June 07, 2021, 12:33:51 PM »
focus
if i replied about lottos "not working", how did you interpret that to mean i was implying that the vaccine is not working
#doneverywellcareerwise

You are well educated, do I have to spell it out?

The vaccine works.... :rofl:  they should say that.

like the lotteries did?
https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1401608551467032580

How would you take this response?  The implication being that the previous post was incorrect.  As you linked to a website claiming lottos "didnt" work.  And having a question on your response.

changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #4816 on: June 07, 2021, 12:34:27 PM »


Either he had a stroke or moving the goal post.

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #4817 on: June 07, 2021, 12:34:57 PM »
I'm still waiting on the post where I said lotto's don't work or that I was skeptical about lotto's working. 

Where's the goal post?  It got lost due to not being able to find the info that I said.

I already said I was incorrect on that instance.

#focus

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #4818 on: June 07, 2021, 12:35:42 PM »
Convinced by what other means?  Facts and studies didn't work. Greed also didn't work.  Do you mean forced to take a vaxx if they want to do X, Y, or Z?  So cops show up and hold said person down while they get the vaxx?

4% of Korea is vaxxed as of last month. 0.005 of Taiwan as of last month.  Japan was 2% as of last month. Compared to 40% of the USA and about 50% of the UK as of last month.  What's wrong with Asia?

There are many factors of what's wrong with Asia,  some being supply, culture, etc.

changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #4819 on: June 07, 2021, 12:37:18 PM »
You are well educated, do I have to spell it out?

How would you take this response?  The implication being that the previous post was incorrect.  As you linked to a website claiming lottos "didnt" work.  And having a question on your response.

Is the name behind MacSak Alex?  If it isn't then Mac made no statement of lottos working or not.  That's how I would take it the response.