Not getting vaxxed is idiot thing one.   Not being vaxxed and going to an area with higher chance there are infected is idiot move two. Arguing with the owner of a private practice and land about their rules is borderline, depending on how far you take it. 

For example if there is a no smoking sign.  It's not idiotic to ask why.  But to argue with the answer may be.   

Questioning things are not idiotic.  But having beliefs that are thoughly disproven are.

"Depending on how far you take it", goalpost about to be moved due to general questioning or argumentative questioning.

 "Not being vaxxed and going into an area with a higher chance there are infected is idiot move two"?

 So how are people supposed to get tested for covid?  Not all testing areas are drive thru. Assume someone is getting tested in HI because they have symptoms or came into contact with someone who has symptoms or tested positive.  But there is a small percentage who have neither and need to be tested for travel related things.

"Questioning things are not idiotic.  But having beliefs that are thoughly disproven are.". 

How do you know if your believe is proven or disproven until you ask?  Isn't the doc supposed to answer questions that 1 has?  Goal post about to be moved.

I remember going to the doc when I was in high school because I had flu symptoms. Fever, chills, body ache.  I came to the office and waited in the waiting room. Then saw him. He just told me to hydrate and take tylenol if my fever gets worst.  This was precovid, so no mask was worn by either me or my PCP.  And this is the SOP for someone who has symptoms. Not someone who has no symptoms and unvaxxed. Because you don't go to the doc to see about the flu treatment if you are 100% fine.

Continue to use telehealth strategies to reduce the risk of SARS-CoV-2 transmission in healthcare settings while maintaining high quality patient care.

Under "Screen and Triage Everyone Entering a Healthcare Facility for Signs and Symptoms of COVID-19"

Limit and monitor points of entry to the facility.

All employers should implement and update as necessary a plan that:
Is specific to your workplace,
Identifies all areas and job tasks with potential exposures to SARS-CoV-2, and
Includes control measures to eliminate or reduce such exposures.

TLDR the CDC recommends taking as many precautions to less risk of spread.  The unvaccinated protocols can be put under these.

Nothing you posted states vaxxed or unvaxxed. Did you not copy and paste that section?

Not technically provable (lack of studies),  however because one can fairly deduce that your SIL does not have any medical condition.  For one the doctor knows the medical history of his patients and would know if something existed that prevented a vaccine.  Second as said before most people bring up "disabilities" when not being able to meet requirements.

What if it's for religious reasoning?  Does the med chart state religion? 

Show me where "MOST PEOPLE" post "THAT IN THE BEGINNING."

Did he ask if your SIL has a med condition before stating he's an idiot?

current healthcare professional protocol now that there is a vaccine
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/infection-control-after-vaccination.html

edited to add the full protocol
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/infection-control-recommendations.html

please show me where it says in these documents that you should see unvaccinated people outside
please show me any cdc/who/nih/ama/etc/etc/etc protocol that says that you should do that...

#consensus

Here we go again, another needlessly additional post because he refuses to admit he was wrong until later.  Then when admission is made, he will add in extra stuff to make it seem like he wasn't as wrong.

.   Not being vaxxed and going to an area with higher chance there are infected is idiot move two.

So when you go into a LGS that is very small, do you ask all the people in there if they are vaxxed or not before you decide to stay and do business/chitchat?

If you were to ask me, I'm going to tell you that I can neither confirm nor deny that I am vaxxed.  So if you see me there, are you not going to enter since my status is unknown?

For those that don't know, I know and have been in actual contact with omni.

What if it's for religious reasoning?  Does the med chart state religion?

That would be quite a stupid reason, but to each is their own.  At that point its up to the doctor to decide if he remains a patient. 

So when you go into a LGS that is very small, do you ask all the people in there if they are vaxxed or not before you decide to stay and do business/chitchat?

If you were to ask me, I'm going to tell you that I can neither confirm nor deny that I am vaxxed.  So if you see me there, are you not going to enter since my status is unknown?

For those that don't know, I know and have been in actual contact with omni.

Nope, I am vaxxed and at that point its up to the LGS to decide if that's a requirement.  I wear a mask and socially distance.   Doing my duty by law.  The point is that this is the doctors office and his rules.  You are a person patronizing his business, you need to follow his rules.  Its not your rules.  I have no say in what the business owners requirements are,  who his customers are or what they do.  Its up to me to decide if I want to go to that business and follow their rules.  I would do the same to your property.  If you said no (insert requirement here),  I would either comply or not enter your property. 

Nope, I am vaxxed and at that point its up to the LGS to decide if that's a requirement.  I wear a mask and socially distance.   Doing my duty by law.  The point is that this is the doctors office and his rules.  You are a person patronizing his business, you need to follow his rules.  Its not your rules.  I have no say in what the business owners requirements are,  who his customers are or what they do.  Its up to me to decide if I want to go to that business and follow their rules.  I would do the same to your property.  If you said no (insert requirement here),  I would either comply or not enter your property.

You're misunderstanding Flapps story. At no time did his SIL try to buck the system, he had simple questions that his PCP could not answer. 

Goalpost moved.

So when you go into a LGS that is very small, do you ask all the people in there if they are vaxxed or not before you decide to stay and do business/chitchat?

If you were to ask me, I'm going to tell you that I can neither confirm nor deny that I am vaxxed.  So if you see me there, are you not going to enter since my status is unknown?

For those that don't know, I know and have been in actual contact with omni.

heads

That would be quite a stupid reason, but to each is their own.  At that point its up to the doctor to decide if he remains a patient.

Good thing the bill of rights isn't up to what you think is stupid or not.  You're making this a bigger deal of this due to the misunderstanding of Flapps story.

There was a clerical error on their part because he was unvaxxed and let into the office.  So I'm sure the next time they will ask before entering and follow HMSA's policy (not CDC's policy).  So why would the PCP have teo decide to keep his SIL as a patient or not due to their error?

Nope, I am vaxxed and at that point its up to the LGS to decide if that's a requirement.  I wear a mask and socially distance.   Doing my duty by law. 

Can you post the HRS that states what the law is?

Nope, I am vaxxed and at that point its up to the LGS to decide if that's a requirement.  I wear a mask and socially distance.   Doing my duty by law.  The point is that this is the doctors office and his rules.  You are a person patronizing his business, you need to follow his rules.  Its not your rules.  I have no say in what the business owners requirements are,  who his customers are or what they do.  Its up to me to decide if I want to go to that business and follow their rules.  I would do the same to your property.  If you said no (insert requirement here),  I would either comply or not enter your property.

but you said "trust the government" and you follow the science by doing what cdc says
cdc clearly does not say "meet unvaccinated patients outside only"
goalpost beamed up by Scotty...

Watched the mens/womens Olympic swimming on sat and noticed many not wearing the bottom strap of their mask. The ones who had surgical type mask cut the bottom strap off.

but you said "trust the government" and you follow the science by doing what cdc says
cdc clearly does not say "meet unvaccinated patients outside only"
goalpost beamed up by Scotty...

I asked him if he missed the copy and paste and got no reply. But he was able to reply to other post. So he's choosing to ignore the fact that he was wrong, hoping we all would forget. Omnitactics.

He's an idiot.  If I were the doctor I would do the same.

That would be quite a stupid reason, but to each is their own.  At that point its up to the doctor to decide if he remains a patient. 

Ok.  I know we are all big boys here on this forum but still.  I just want to say I can't contribute much on this thread but I still come here because of the wealth of information it offers from those of you well versed on the Covid subject.

The above posts makes me realize that these posts are the very reason the threads get out of control.  I'm not saying the above posts don't lack merit because I'm not taking sides here, but it is the use of derogatory words in the post that sparks these endless back and forth pissing contests.

This is for Omni to respond if he wants to:

Why is it so easy for you to deride people you don't even know?  Or do you equally call people these derogatory names even if they are your family or significant other?

And who are you to say it's stupid if a person does something due to religious beliefs?

I've said this earlier in other threads but choice of words when offering different points of view will make a big difference whether we have a flaming war or a respectful arguement.

Mods, I'm not trying to be one of you, I'm just a tad irritated.  Nothing in this post is subject related so please delete it if you want to.  Just wanted to get it off my chest.  Writing about it helps me, lol!

Continue to use telehealth strategies to reduce the risk of SARS-CoV-2 transmission in healthcare settings while maintaining high quality patient care.

Under "Screen and Triage Everyone Entering a Healthcare Facility for Signs and Symptoms of COVID-19"

Limit and monitor points of entry to the facility.

All employers should implement and update as necessary a plan that:
Is specific to your workplace,
Identifies all areas and job tasks with potential exposures to SARS-CoV-2, and
Includes control measures to eliminate or reduce such exposures.

TLDR the CDC recommends taking as many precautions to less risk of spread.  The unvaccinated protocols can be put under these.

please show me where it says to see the patient outside...

Continue to use telehealth strategies to reduce the risk of SARS-CoV-2 transmission in healthcare settings while maintaining high quality patient care.

Under "Screen and Triage Everyone Entering a Healthcare Facility for Signs and Symptoms of COVID-19"

Limit and monitor points of entry to the facility.

All employers should implement and update as necessary a plan that:
Is specific to your workplace,
Identifies all areas and job tasks with potential exposures to SARS-CoV-2, and
Includes control measures to eliminate or reduce such exposures.

TLDR the CDC recommends taking as many precautions to less risk of spread.  The unvaccinated protocols can be put under these.

is that sentence in English?

This is the phase where they dehumanize the unvaccinated. It makes it psychologically easier for them to round us up and throw us in the gulags

You did not think there would be a communist revolution without gulags, did you?

Case in point; Jan 6th riot participants currently being tortured for trespassing

Things are getting pretty dark at the moment

Ha. Just getting a call from the CDC now

Big pharma needs another billion

F your rights, pleb

Your body belongs to us