The COVID Cult (Read 1793655 times)

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Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #9200 on: December 02, 2021, 03:02:59 AM »
U.S. judge imposes injunction against federal contractor vaccination mandate in three states

https://justthenews.com/nation/states/injunction-ordered-against-federal-contractor-vaccination-mandate-kentucky-ohio-and
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changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #9201 on: December 02, 2021, 08:36:13 PM »
Australian barbers giving haircuts outdoors to those who are unvaxxed and cannot go inside.

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Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #9202 on: December 03, 2021, 09:09:17 AM »
Controversial Vaccination Policies Spread, Limiting Public Access for the Unjabbed

https://www.cnsnews.com/article/international/patrick-goodenough/controversial-vaccination-policies-spread-limiting-public
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Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #9203 on: December 03, 2021, 09:14:37 AM »
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changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #9204 on: December 03, 2021, 10:02:05 AM »
Trevor Noah finally gets it!!

https://mobile.twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1466614110376792064?s=10

I always look at Trevor as being more left leaning, but his jokes are actually funny when about the right. Compared to Samantha B, who's jokes about the right aren't funny at all.  So I can appreciate Trevors humor.  And now that Trump isn't POTUS, I don't see any commercials on TBS about her, which were almost all Trump bashing comments.  Ironically, she's like Kathy Griffin in Seinfeld.  When she used Jerry for all her jokes, then once Jerry stopped talking to her, her jokes dried up.

Same goes with Baldwin, he has major TDS, but his portrayal of him on SNL is funny.

Brystont1

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #9205 on: December 03, 2021, 10:06:25 AM »
Trevor Noah finally gets it!!

https://mobile.twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1466614110376792064?s=10

Looks like a lobbyist forgot to make a payment to Mr Noah.

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Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #9206 on: December 03, 2021, 10:07:34 AM »
I always look at Trevor as being more left leaning, but his jokes are actually funny when about the right. Compared to Samantha B, who's jokes about the right aren't funny at all.  So I can appreciate Trevors humor.  And now that Trump isn't POTUS, I don't see any commercials on TBS about her, which were almost all Trump bashing comments.  Ironically, she's like Kathy Griffin in Seinfeld.  When she used Jerry for all her jokes, then once Jerry stopped talking to her, her jokes dried up.

Same goes with Baldwin, he has major TDS, but his portrayal of him on SNL is funny.
I can appreciate good political jokes. Especially those that go both ways. I think Carlin was the best political satirist of my time.
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Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #9207 on: December 03, 2021, 11:42:14 AM »
Stunning waste: Unemployment fraud during COVID cost more than triple total benefits paid in 2019

https://justthenews.com/accountability/waste-fraud-and-abuse/unemployment-fraud-during-covid-cost-more-3x-total-benefits
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MauiAxis

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #9208 on: December 05, 2021, 08:48:12 AM »
Fatality is an important end point and metric. Though non fatal impacts from infection can also be significant.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/05/1059828993/data-vaccine-misinformation-trump-counties-covid-death-rate

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Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #9209 on: December 05, 2021, 03:16:39 PM »
Fatality is an important end point and metric. Though non fatal impacts from infection can also be significant.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/05/1059828993/data-vaccine-misinformation-trump-counties-covid-death-rate
I don’t pretend to know statistics. I am not a true statistics aficionado. But my nephew is a statistician expert. So here is his analysis [in bold] of the data provided in this article:

Ok, let's talk stats.
A) they don't disclose the fit of their data. Just looking at it they would be lucky to get an r^2 of ~.1. In other words only about 10% of the variation in the data could be explained by the variable they are using: 10% of the difference in vaccination can be explained by presidential election results.
B) the second graph has even worse fit to the data. Probably closer to 2-5%.  Also the spread of the data points increases along with the dependent variable, giving you that distinctive trumpet shape. Even in good fitting data that is a sign of serious confounding variables.

Basically, they've got nothing that would pass rigorous scientific muster.

My guess is that the analysis was either done by sociology major with one semester of stats, or by somebody who knows better and had all of the robustness checks omitted.


My take from the article is that they were not forthcoming with the source of their data so I could verify that they are not interpreting it to skew their results. They sort of say where the data comes from but they do not provide a link so I don’t have to search and wonder if I am looking at the exact same data. This is very dishonest. But assuming the data source is not being misinterpreted, at the very end of the article they do provide a link to a source for their political data which they say is from “Kaiser”. With a link that takes you to a website called KFF.org” Being a little familiar with Kaiser I thought they meant Kaiser Permanente. But then I thought it doesn’t make sense that “Kaiser” would be so political and one sided about their politics. But if you go to the bottom of that page they state “ KFF (Kaiser Family Foundation) is not associated with Kaiser Permanente or Kaiser Industries.” This is also very misleading bordering on lying. So I personally cannot trust anything stated in this article due to what my nephew analyzed about their data and the misleading and lack of links to provide sources of data so their results can be verified.

Not that it means anything if Republicans appear to be less vaccinated than Democrats. But I think the results are quite humorous if you ask me. If true, it shows that Republicans are not as a group as big as lemmings as I thought. And certainly not as big as lemmings as the Democrats that are giving up their body sovereignty and therefore control over their own bodies to our tyrannical government. JMHO
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groveler

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #9210 on: December 05, 2021, 03:46:14 PM »
I don’t pretend to know statistics. I am not a true statistics aficionado. But my nephew is a statistician expert. So here is his analysis [in bold] of the data provided in this article:

Ok, let's talk stats.
A) they don't disclose the fit of their data. Just looking at it they would be lucky to get an r^2 of ~.1. In other words only about 10% of the variation in the data could be explained by the variable they are using: 10% of the difference in vaccination can be explained by presidential election results.
B) the second graph has even worse fit to the data. Probably closer to 2-5%.  Also the spread of the data points increases along with the dependent variable, giving you that distinctive trumpet shape. Even in good fitting data that is a sign of serious confounding variables.

Basically, they've got nothing that would pass rigorous scientific muster.

My guess is that the analysis was either done by sociology major with one semester of stats, or by somebody who knows better and had all of the robustness checks omitted.


My take from the article is that they were not forthcoming with the source of their data so I could verify that they are not interpreting it to skew their results. They sort of say where the data comes from but they do not provide a link so I don’t have to search and wonder if I am looking at the exact same data. This is very dishonest. But assuming the data source is not being misinterpreted, at the very end of the article they do provide a link to a source for their political data which they say is from “Kaiser”. With a link that takes you to a website called KFF.org” Being a little familiar with Kaiser I thought they meant Kaiser Permanente. But then I thought it doesn’t make sense that “Kaiser” would be so political and one sided about their politics. But if you go to the bottom of that page they state “ KFF (Kaiser Family Foundation) is not associated with Kaiser Permanente or Kaiser Industries.” This is also very misleading bordering on lying. So I personally cannot trust anything stated in this article due to what my nephew analyzed about their data and the misleading and lack of links to provide sources of data so their results can be verified.

Not that it means anything if Republicans appear to be less vaccinated than Democrats. But I think the results are quite humorous if you ask me. If true, it shows that Republicans are not as a group as big as lemmings as I thought. And certainly not as big as lemmings as the Democrats that are giving up their body sovereignty and therefore control over their own bodies to our tyrannical government. JMHO
You can call me wrong but "statistics"  is a mathematic tool developed by Gamblers to improve their odds
of wining something.  I hated the subject and referred to it as "Sadistics".
To a large degree it is subjective, not objective eg some thing that can be measured.
like where a complex mechanical structure failure point is likely to be or when a
PN junction will fail do to overtemperature.
I used to go through all sorts of hoops to "Prove" one of my designs has one chance in a trillion of failure.
It was never asked when it would fail.

So people can play fast and loose, they do, and too many people trust the "experts" that are trying to quantify
future random events, using a guess based on past observations.
But then I'm not a card player.




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Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #9211 on: December 06, 2021, 02:13:57 AM »
Be Ever On Guard Of Government That Promises Safety Over Dangerous Freedom

https://www.ammoland.com/2021/12/be-ever-on-guard-government-promises-safety-over-dangerous-freedom/

I was trying to decide to make this a new thread or if I should put it here. I decided to put it here because of the tyranny we are all facing right now with all these illegal and immoral mandates.
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Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #9212 on: December 06, 2021, 12:12:45 PM »
NIH Director Expects More Mutations: 'We'll Have to Use Some of the Other Letters in the Greek Alphabet'

https://www.cnsnews.com/article/national/susan-jones/nih-director-expects-more-mutations-well-have-use-some-other-letters
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Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #9213 on: December 06, 2021, 12:16:30 PM »
Twitter adds 'unsafe' label to disputed research alleging potential heart risks of COVID vaccine

https://justthenews.com/nation/technology/twitter-adds-unsafe-label-research-abstract-describing-potential-heart-risks
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Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #9214 on: December 06, 2021, 12:24:12 PM »
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changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #9215 on: December 06, 2021, 12:41:35 PM »
I am now an anti vaxxer according to Merriam Webster.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-vaxxer

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Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #9216 on: December 06, 2021, 12:53:10 PM »
I am now an anti vaxxer according to Merriam Webster.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-vaxxer
I hate to tell Webster there is a huge difference between someone who is against the idea of the vaccine and someone who is against the idea of a mandate to force the use of the vaccine.
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aieahound

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #9217 on: December 06, 2021, 12:54:19 PM »
I think Omicron may be a positive sign corona is morphing into influenza’s sister.
No better but no worse.
But they’re hitting on spreadability, which may be a good thing if symptoms are mild to moderate and antibodies are built.
Create the panic.

I’m all for the vaccine but completely against the mandates.

Again, why not the 10 second side effect blurb at the end of each “PSA”?
Is it because they’re not endorsing a specific drug ?
Free advertising for Big Pharm without the warnings ?

changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #9218 on: December 06, 2021, 01:06:03 PM »

I’m all for the vaccine but completely against the mandates.


Welcome to the anti vaxxer club.

changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #9219 on: December 06, 2021, 01:06:50 PM »
I hate to tell Webster there is a huge difference between someone who is against the idea of the vaccine and someone who is against the idea of a mandate to force the use of the vaccine.

Watching for 4 steps ahead. Wait till they do the same for 2a stuff and change the meaning of things.  Then stuff gets banned because the dictionary says so.