.308 Win Load Data Recipes (Read 34286 times)

drck1000

Re: .308 Win Load Data Recipes
« Reply #100 on: December 07, 2020, 08:05:18 PM »
If you are going to neck size only try the Lee Collet die and measure the concentricity before and after. Setup correctly you'd be surprised how little to no run out you get on the case neck. 

Concentricity is another rabbit hole that you may to choose to jump into.

At what point or range does concentricity affect accuracy? How much runout is acceptable for a certain distance?
Full length sizing, at least what my buddy has.

Don’t need any more rabbit holes. Haha

Was chatting with a couple of guys who are really into precision rifle. The “I need to be .25 MOA to be competitive” types. Quite interesting stuff. The flex of different actions, different lug patterns, etc. I’m not chasing the “almost same hole” at 100 yards stuff.

My goal is more consistency at ringing steel in the 600-1000 yard range. 600 was “ok easy” with the stock gun setup. But that was a 12” diameter plate.

drck1000

Re: .308 Win Load Data Recipes
« Reply #101 on: December 07, 2020, 09:28:01 PM »
Thanks for the PMs. To clarify, I eventually plan on supplementing my buddy’s reloading setup. I’ve already added some sizing gauges and Chargemaster. Plan is to eventually go with neck sizing equipment, including prob a Redding or RCBS turret press. But starting with what he has first.

He reloads for “good enough for him”, which isn’t uber accuracy. He’s aware of the rabbit holes, but too pake to invest more. But, now that I’m getting into it and supplementing, he’s showing more interest.

I considered starting a rifle build from action and barrel up. But not yet...

macsak

Re: .308 Win Load Data Recipes
« Reply #102 on: December 07, 2020, 09:44:20 PM »
Thanks for the PMs. To clarify, I eventually plan on supplementing my buddy’s reloading setup. I’ve already added some sizing gauges and Chargemaster. Plan is to eventually go with neck sizing equipment, including prob a Redding or RCBS turret press. But starting with what he has first.

He reloads for “good enough for him”, which isn’t uber accuracy. He’s aware of the rabbit holes, but too pake to invest more. But, now that I’m getting into it and supplementing, he’s showing more interest.

I considered starting a rifle build from action and barrel up. But not yet...

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Dolomite

.308 Win Load Data Recipes
« Reply #103 on: December 08, 2020, 12:46:32 AM »
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drck1000

Re: .308 Win Load Data Recipes
« Reply #104 on: December 12, 2020, 10:22:49 AM »
First "real" steps down the rabbit hole of reloading started.  Loaded up my first two sets of test ammo.  Also did some brass prep for a future batch.

First two test batches are 4064 and Varget with 175 gr SMK and CCi No. 200 primers.  My bolt gun is still in the shop, so will likely load up another test batch.  Probably 8208 and the Shooters World.  I'll start with some factory FGMM once I get my gun back and get the new scope and mount setup with a zero.  Then it's off and running on testing.  Here. . . we. . . go. . .

Rhed

Re: .308 Win Load Data Recipes
« Reply #105 on: December 12, 2020, 03:18:44 PM »
I can pick up more 8208.  Is 8208 anyone's favorite?

I have one jar of 8208, and one of my buddies has 8208 as the "leader in clubhouse" favorite.  I haven't started testing yet, but Varget and 4064 are tops on my list.  I've read a lot of good things about 8208 for .308, but seems like a lot of focus on that powder for the 6, 6.5, and 7 mm rounds. 

I'm down to try whatevers.  Just looking for opinions from experience.
I like 8208, I have 5 jars of those. 4064 for some reason drops my velocity. Good thing I had only one jar of that to try. After that, used the whole jug for plinking rounds for my Tavor. lol.. Benchmark would gives me the most velocity. BLC2 too. And TAC. I’m currently using TAC for 175 pills. Seems to do good. My most used powder are Varget and RL15. But I use whatever. I have data for my guns for Benchmark, BLC2, CFE223, TAC, N140, 8208, Varget, and RL15. All shoot good.

drck1000

Re: .308 Win Load Data Recipes
« Reply #106 on: December 12, 2020, 03:27:34 PM »
I like 8208, I have 5 jars of those. 4064 for some reason drops my velocity. Good thing I had only one jar of that to try. After that, used the whole jug for plinking rounds for my Tavor. lol.. Benchmark would gives me the most velocity. BLC2 too. And TAC. I’m currently using TAC for 175 pills. Seems to do good. My most used powder are Varget and RL15. But I use whatever. I have data for my guns for Benchmark, BLC2, CFE223, TAC, N140, 8208, Varget, and RL15. All shoot good.
I ended up picking up (Edit 6 jars) of the 8208.  3 for me and three for my buddy.  I think that will be next on the list to make test loads.  My buddy has RL15 and said I can sample.  I haven't been able to find RL15 or CFE223 in stock locally.  But the powders I do have on hand I think will keep me busy for a while.  I like that some of the powders I have seem to be good for .223, but I don't plan on loading for .223 any time soon.  The backup is to use the powders that don't make the cut for .308 is 30-06.  I have both a 1903 and M1 Garand that can use the same powders and boolits. 

The 4064 didn't work that well for my buddy as well, but he is shooting a much different barrel length and twist.  He also started with the 150ish gr bullets, but has since gone to the heavier gr heads. 

Hear a LOT of good things about Varget and I was able to find some in stock locally.  Seems like that is the common criticism of Varget, that it's hard to find in stock. 
« Last Edit: December 12, 2020, 04:20:27 PM by drck1000 »

Rhed

Re: .308 Win Load Data Recipes
« Reply #107 on: December 12, 2020, 04:17:42 PM »
I ended up picking up 8 jars of the 8208.  3 for me and three for my buddy.  I think that will be next on the list to make test loads.  My buddy has RL15 and said I can sample.  I haven't been able to find RL15 or CFE223 in stock locally.  But the powders I do have on hand I think will keep me busy for a while.  I like that some of the powders I have seem to be good for .223, but I don't plan on loading for .223 any time soon.  The backup is to use the powders that don't make the cut for .308 is 30-06.  I have both a 1903 and M1 Garand that can use the same powders and boolits. 

The 4064 didn't work that well for my buddy as well, but he is shooting a much different barrel length and twist.  He also started with the 150ish gr bullets, but has since gone to the heavier gr heads. 

Hear a LOT of good things about Varget and I was able to find some in stock locally.  Seems like that is the common criticism of Varget, that it's hard to find in stock.

I seen CFE in stock at SEC. But that was last week. Should have picked up some when I was there. Only went there to pick up 2 bricks of large primers. I think I get enough powder right now.  Its my small rifle primers that I’m low. Currently only have 3 full bricks. And 7 left in a open brick. Guess that’s 3700 small primers total. Large primers I have 7 full bricks. So that enough for now.

drck1000

Re: .308 Win Load Data Recipes
« Reply #108 on: December 14, 2020, 08:26:02 AM »
I seen CFE in stock at SEC. But that was last week. Should have picked up some when I was there. Only went there to pick up 2 bricks of large primers. I think I get enough powder right now.  Its my small rifle primers that I’m low. Currently only have 3 full bricks. And 7 left in a open brick. Guess that’s 3700 small primers total. Large primers I have 7 full bricks. So that enough for now.
Yeah, I recall seeing CFE223 at SEC last time I went too.  I think I have a good amount of powder.  I bought a variety since I wasn't sure how the run on gun stuff would impact, but seems like powder has been ok to find.  At least at SEC and WGS. 

I saw that the Sierra manual has TAC as the accurate load.  Might have to try TEC eventually. 

TooFewPews

Re: .308 Win Load Data Recipes
« Reply #109 on: December 18, 2020, 05:05:34 PM »
I had a lot of TAC (until I used it all). It’s a great powder that measures very well through powder throws due to it being a ball powder.

I would certainly buy more of it if I could get my hands on cheap kegs. It’s a great plinking powder, but I usually use extruded powders for accuracy loads. Your mileage may vary