Legalities of you or your loved ones filmed in news coverages. (Read 563 times)

QUIETShooter

Legalities of you or your loved ones filmed in news coverages.
« on: November 20, 2020, 06:25:43 AM »
I tried researching this and didn't have much results so I figured try this forum.  A lot of members here are very knowledgeable in many areas. 

When I watch news coverage I see people walking about, oblivious to the fact that they are being filmed on camera.  Sometimes these people would look over to the camera and it's apparent they realized that they are being filmed.

It has never happened to me but I know I would not appreciate seeing myself on newscasts.

Lots of news about the tourists coming lately for example.  Some film shows tourists sunning themselves on the beach.  Some shows them randomly walking along the sidewalks minding their own business.  Obviously it must be legal to film them but how far can this go before it infringes upon their privacy?

I can see filming a whole bunch of people coming off the plane at the airport.  I can see filming a large group of people protesting an issue at the capitol.

But what about when I mentioned earlier, filming a person sunbathing or a couple doing window shopping on the sidewalk?  I know I would not appreciate this and would get upset if I suddenly see myself on TV without my knowledge.

Do they (media and the likes) notify these people beforehand?  Do these people have the option to deny the film from being put on the air?

I just saw KHNL showing tourists sunbathing or walking about in swimwear.  Some of these people are nice to look at and some of them, lol! were not.....

So where is the line between privacy and a so called "public" filming of the masses?
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oldfart

Re: Legalities of you or your loved ones filmed in news coverages.
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2020, 07:55:22 AM »
In a nutshell, if you're on public property, anything goes.
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drck1000

Re: Legalities of you or your loved ones filmed in news coverages.
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2020, 08:15:43 AM »
I recall there is something about reasonable expectation of privacy.  That if you're out in public like that, you don't have that expectation.  Or at least it's different. 

I've heard of events where the media has disclaimers when you enter or the purchase of the ticket or pass you acknowledge recording or coverage.  Or something like that. 

Those bikini shots can be a double edged sword though. . .

zippz

Re: Legalities of you or your loved ones filmed in news coverages.
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2020, 08:21:37 AM »
I believe there are some exceptions in public, like if you film a particular person on purpose, make it into a movie (not a documentary or news type story), and profit from it.
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Re: Legalities of you or your loved ones filmed in news coverages.
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2020, 10:15:17 AM »
A coworker was asking me about all the crazy guns I must have after seeing me on the local news at the gun show. I remember the news crew but apparently my attempts to avoid getting in the shot were not successful

QUIETShooter

Re: Legalities of you or your loved ones filmed in news coverages.
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2020, 10:32:26 AM »
Yeah, I see what you guys mean.  I just happen to be very self-conscious, and my wife is the same way.  It could be because we both are extremely handsome and beautiful. ;)

Seriously though, I am sure they would honor your anonymity request if you were say, testifying as a witness to something or asked an opinion on the street.

I'm just wondering about these random shots and all of a sudden you are watching TV and you see yourself.....

Case in point.  A million years ago when I was in the National Guard we had a training weekend and back then urban warfare training was a relatively new concept as we were in the post Vietnam/Cold War era and our training is usually concentrated on jungle and forest terrain in Europe.

Anyway, we were trying to clear these buildings and as we got up to storm the buildings, I almost tripped and fell with the M-60 machine gun I was carrying.

F*ck, nobody said anything about us being filmed.  On TV that afternoon, it showed me on closeup on KITV news fire the gun then get up, run, and almost go head first into the dirt.

I knew there was a news team covering this new training we were doing but I thought they were just gonna talk to the Lieutenant or something, which they did but also took footage of us running around.

My wife mentioned something like "Hey, you almost fell down..." and I shot back "I know, but I didn't, ok?"  My face turned red even though I'm dark skinned.  :rofl:
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oldfart

Re: Legalities of you or your loved ones filmed in news coverages.
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2020, 10:45:58 AM »
Typically, at a gun show or military base, you need to get permission to take any pictures.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Legalities of you or your loved ones filmed in news coverages.
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2020, 11:32:38 AM »
Anyone can record/film anyone in public, which includes inside businesses open to the public.  Businesses can prohibit photography if they post signs to that effect.

You have the legal right to photograph children in public without their or their parents' consent, but this can be regarded as a suspicious activity by parents.

Generally it is perfectly legal for strangers to photograph a child, and post or publish the images as long as they are not published on a child pornography site.

Some states have  started to pass laws to prevent publishing photos and videos of minors without parent or legal guardian signing a consent form. 

Good story that answers many questions on privacy rights and publishing photos of minors without permission:

https://www.emmaand3.com/is-posting-pictures-of-children-without-consent-illegal/
« Last Edit: November 20, 2020, 06:50:08 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
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drck1000

Re: Legalities of you or your loved ones filmed in news coverages.
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2020, 02:20:14 PM »
Yeah, I see what you guys mean.  I just happen to be very self-conscious, and my wife is the same way.  It could be because we both are extremely handsome and beautiful. ;)

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Of course!   ;)

I've wondered about the Google map images.  I've heard of many instances where folks have "punked" the car and the images have had to be filtered or censored.   ;D

QUIETShooter

Re: Legalities of you or your loved ones filmed in news coverages.
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2020, 06:45:21 PM »


I've wondered about the Google map images.  I've heard of many instances where folks have "punked" the car and the images have had to be filtered or censored.   ;D

That's another peeve of mine.  A while ago I got this letter in the mail from a real estate agent I've never known or heard of.

Inside the letter was a google photo of a birds eye view of my house and property and he wants to buy it.
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s15project

Re: Legalities of you or your loved ones filmed in news coverages.
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2020, 06:57:09 PM »
That's another peeve of mine.  A while ago I got this letter in the mail from a real estate agent I've never known or heard of.

Inside the letter was a google photo of a birds eye view of my house and property and he wants to buy it.

You can request your property be blurred on google maps, I have neighbors that have done it.  Took a week or so they said but once they submitted the request it was completed.
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QUIETShooter

Re: Legalities of you or your loved ones filmed in news coverages.
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2020, 09:22:29 PM »
You can request your property be blurred on google maps, I have neighbors that have done it.  Took a week or so they said but once they submitted the request it was completed.
https://support.google.com/maps/answer/7011973?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en

Thank you so much for this information!  :shaka:
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robtmc

Re: Legalities of you or your loved ones filmed in news coverages.
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2020, 11:46:39 AM »
You can request your property be blurred on google maps, I have neighbors that have done it.  Took a week or so they said but once they submitted the request it was completed.
https://support.google.com/maps/answer/7011973?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en
I did it. 

Be aware it cannot be undone until Gargle does new streetview recordings of your area.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Legalities of you or your loved ones filmed in news coverages.
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2020, 11:56:46 AM »
I remember a famous instance where a man's son was murdered and the body was found near some train tracks -- might have been in a rail yard.

Google Maps just happened to take the pictures of that location as the body was discovered and before removal.  You can easily make out the body from Google Maps.

After the father his son's body on Google Maps, he requested Google remove it. The picture of the dead son was still viewable at least a couple of weeks later.  It may have taken the father talking to his government reps to get Google to act, IIRC.

Anyway, it's one of those viral stories that makes the whole Google Map Street View thing seem even more creepy.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/california-dad-google-maps-image-dead-son-removed-article-1.1521720
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changemyoil66

Re: Legalities of you or your loved ones filmed in news coverages.
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2020, 04:06:40 PM »
Sounds like someone is out with the GF and left the wife at home and doesnt want to get caught.

But in all seriousness, what above people posted. Same if u wanted to film hpd at the firearms division or any other government office open to the public.

1 member was filing or picking up a FOIA request and was told by the clerk he cannot film and leave or sheriff will be called. Sheriff came and said he was ok to film and went back in to finish his business. For reasons listed above.

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oldfart

Re: Legalities of you or your loved ones filmed in news coverages.
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2020, 04:33:08 PM »
Sounds like someone is out with the GF and left the wife at home and doesnt want to get caught.

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eyeeatingfish

Re: Legalities of you or your loved ones filmed in news coverages.
« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2020, 08:58:05 PM »
I asked my dad this once (he was a newspaper journalist) and he pretty much said if you are in public you don't get privacy rights. He did mention something about children and parent permission but it sounded like it was more of a courtesy than a requirement.

Flapp_Jackson

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« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2020, 09:01:06 PM »
I asked my dad this once (he was a newspaper journalist) and he pretty much said if you are in public you don't get privacy rights. He did mention something about children and parent permission but it sounded like it was more of a courtesy than a requirement.

Actually, that was the old standard.  The new standard is that's it's okay to publish minors' pictures as long as the minor is not identified.  If they are, you need parent/guardian consent.
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