Hawaii’s 2nd Congressional District - Candidates (Read 4404 times)

GZire

Hawaii’s 2nd Congressional District - Candidates
« on: July 27, 2012, 08:47:42 AM »
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/163987556.html?id=163987556

Not that it should be of a surprise to us, but they are all anti-firearms.

Some items to note;
1.  Title references automatic weapons.  Candidates seem to be ignorant of the fact that the Aurora massacre was not an automatic firearm.
2.  As this does not apply to automatics..........will they pull a fast one and try to get this to cover all other items........such as no mags for Glock 18C, M16/M4, etc?
3.  All are pretty wormy.  I want one, just one, to say, if this passes then crime ceases, but all are skirting this because I presume that they know this will not happen.




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Candidates agree on ban of high-capacity magazines for automatic weapons

By Gordon Y.K. Pang

POSTED: 11:41 p.m. HST, Jul 26, 2012
LAST UPDATED: 03:26 a.m. HST, Jul 27, 2012

All six candidates vying for the Democratic nomination of Hawaii’s 2nd Congressional District seat said they would support legislation that would make it more difficult to obtain, if not create an outright national ban on, high-capacity magazines for automatic weapons.

The candidates’ answers on the KHET-TV show “Insights” Thursday night came nearly seven days after a gunman killed 12 people and injured 58 others in an Aurora, Colorado movie theater.

Councilwoman Tulsi Gabbard said the gun reform measure introduced by Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., should have been passed years ago. “If we’d taken action back then, then perhaps this terrible tragedy which just occurred a few days ago could possibly have been prevented.”

Lautenberg’s proposal to ban high capacity magazines was first introduced last year after the shooting of then-Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., in January 2011 but to date has not gained enough support to pas

Hawaii is one of the few states that restrict magazine capacity.

Hilo attorney Bob Marx said he supports limiting magazine capacity on high-powered rifles. “I wouldn’t have any trouble with that,” he said, noting however that he is a hunter who owns a shotgun and is a strong believer of gun rights. “I have a respect for the 2nd Amendment … you have a right to bear arms.”

Former Honolulu Mayor Mufi Hannemann echoed Marx’s comments. “It’s clear that the status quo is clearly unacceptable,” he said. “But you have to find that balance.” While the rights of recreational gun users need to  be respected, he said, “these tragedies are happening much too frequently.”

Longtime congressional aide and political advocate Esther Kia’aina said “it is regrettable” that the election season has delayed Capitol Hill from dealing with gun control issues. “I hope that they make it a priority when Congress reconvenes in January.”

Financial investor Miles Shiratori called Aurora “a real tragedy” and said he cannot see how the gunman was able to accumulate as much firepower as he did. “I don’t know how got a hold of 6,000 rounds,” he said. “I believe we should establish a much tougher system.

Rafael Del Castillo, an attorney and health care advocate, said gun owners and the National Rifle Association need to brought into the discussion if nationwide legislation limiting gun magazine sizes is to pass. “One thing that I found is that gun owners are as much concerned about the problem as anybody.”

Earlier today, Hubert Williams, president of the Police Foundation and chairman of the National Law Enforcement Partnership to Prevent Gun Violence, announced his groups’ support for a ban on high-capacity ammunition magazines.

Lautenberg’s proposal to ban high capacity magazines was first introduced last year after the shooting of then-Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., in January 2011 but to date has not gained enough support to pass.

Tonight’s fast-paced, hour-long forum was the last of several televised debate for the candidates in the hotly contested 2nd District Democratic primary. It was the first to include lesser-known candidates Del Castillo and Shiratori.

The primary election is Aug. 11. The Second District’s incumbent, Rep. Mazie Hirono, is running for the Senate seat held by retiring Sen. Daniel Akaka, D-Hawaii.




[note had to edit up the posting as best I could because there was a double posting in the article + some missing stuff from the top 1/2 of the post.................SA link may correct that in the future]

eyeeatingfish

Re: Hawaii’s 2nd Congressional District - Candidates
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2012, 01:17:50 PM »
What about Lingle?

It is frustrating seeing these politicians trying to make political stances without knowing (or ignoring?) the real statistics and facts about these shootings. I know of cases in other countries where guns are illegal and people still go on mass killings. A few in Japan involved a crazy man with a knife running around stabbing people, and he still managed to kill a fair amount of people.

macsak

Re: Hawaii’s 2nd Congressional District - Candidates
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2012, 01:35:02 PM »
a bunch of us met with mrs lingle last night
i will post my toughts tonight, and i hope others will too

aloha

steve

What about Lingle?

It is frustrating seeing these politicians trying to make political stances without knowing (or ignoring?) the real statistics and facts about these shootings. I know of cases in other countries where guns are illegal and people still go on mass killings. A few in Japan involved a crazy man with a knife running around stabbing people, and he still managed to kill a fair amount of people.

GZire

Re: Hawaii’s 2nd Congressional District - Candidates
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2012, 02:01:10 PM »
What about Lingle?

It is frustrating seeing these politicians trying to make political stances without knowing (or ignoring?) the real statistics and facts about these shootings. I know of cases in other countries where guns are illegal and people still go on mass killings. A few in Japan involved a crazy man with a knife running around stabbing people, and he still managed to kill a fair amount of people.


Article is about the Democratic candidates only.  While I would think the Republican candidates are more sympathetic, it doesn't mean they would willingly back pro-firearms legislation.

poiboi808

Re: Hawaii’s 2nd Congressional District - Candidates
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2012, 03:31:09 AM »
Here's a vid of the US Rep., Dist. 2 candidate forum. It starts at about 11:10 - 16:34.

Heavies

Re: Hawaii’s 2nd Congressional District - Candidates
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2012, 03:46:38 AM »
Lingle isn't in there yet, still in the primary stage of the election.  Lingle is more towards the center anyway, but probably would be more sympathetic towards the pro side being republican, however, because we are talking Hawaii politicians repub/democrat = not much difference.  One needs to look very carefully at their records, and they could do a flipflop at anytime.

HiCarry

Re: Hawaii’s 2nd Congressional District - Candidates
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2012, 09:56:31 AM »
Lingle has created a "Firearms Owners Coalition" (headed by a real gun guy, not some wanabe...) and is generally supportive. When that coalition met to discuss issues with her, she was generally favorable. She was not supportive of concealed carry, but said she'd be willing to discuss it. Toward the end of the night/meeting, she seemed to be warming to the idea and was, it appeared to me, genuinely interested in discussing it more....does that mean she'll change her mind? I don't know.

She held other positions that might not be considered "pro-gun" but I also think she has bought into a lot of the mis-information spewed out by the antis....and she is seemingly willing to listen.

I'd take her over her competion in a heartbeat......