It's finally over (Read 20967 times)

omnigun

Re: It's finally over
« Reply #60 on: December 16, 2020, 06:24:33 AM »
If my interaction with Inspector is trolling than yall troll all the time too.  Remember many of you started the name calling.  I just over time started to do it back.   Many of you devolved the civility.  Many of you give nicknames to those who you don't agree with.   To put them down.  Those who don't drink from the same watering hole of information, opinions and facts.   Those who don't think similar.  I care too much about my 2a rights to blindly ignore this.   This is my own opinion but I think the GOP party is on the path to doom.  The country as a whole is starting to lean a certain way on issues. The minority in the GOP are starting to go the opposite direction, trying to convince everyone else to go along. Doing so in my mind would doom the GOP.  I recognize that as of today the GOP protects my 2a rights more than the democrats.   So they normally earn my vote but at the current rate they will lose it.  Myself and many other voters are not an one issue voter. In a way this forum represents a bit of my personal activism.  More people need to fight fake news and disinformation.   The truth many times lies in the middle.  In one breath you say mass fraud is a fact,  with limited evidence.  Using the so called evidence as undeniable truth.   In the next you discount other topics like climate change and covid built with alot of evidence.  But act like it's enough.  People preach freedom from masks and other personal freedom, while being against similar personal freedom choices like abortion.  If you truly believed in personal freedom than drugs, abortion, suicide and many other personal freedom choices should be advocated for also. In the end just like myself you are fighting for your own personal beliefs.  This is America everyone is free to do so.  I'm just showing from my side.   The side I believe is right and has more evidence than yours. 

And yes I still take the stand this election is over.   The possibility of Trump winning in my mind closely approachs zero.
« Last Edit: December 16, 2020, 06:52:38 AM by omnigun »

QUIETShooter

Re: It's finally over
« Reply #61 on: December 16, 2020, 07:08:02 AM »
On the other forums I participate in, when a troll is suspected, the rest of the forum community band together and ignore him/her/it.

Most don't use the ignore feature.  When the troll makes disruptive remarks the community just talks amongst themselves as if the troll does not exist.  They do this as soon as possible after the troll makes his disruptive remark.  This shows his remarks don't matter.  Nobody in the community acknowledges or addresses the troll subject.  They just continue to talk among themselves as if the person doesn't exist.

Most times the troll will slink away.  There are times this will enrage the troll to the point his posts will violate the terms and rules of the forum.  Then the moderator steps in and bans him/her/it.

I think it's harder in this forum because political discussions are allowed.  In the other forums any mention of something political and it is deleted and the poster reprimanded.


Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

drck1000

Re: It's finally over
« Reply #62 on: December 16, 2020, 07:15:51 AM »
SNIP

And yes I still take the stand this election is over.   The possibility of Trump winning in my mind closely approachs zero.

It’s that kind of poke parting shot that makes you a troll.

You are always right in your mind. Got it. Here, have a cookie and STFU.

omnigun

Re: It's finally over
« Reply #63 on: December 16, 2020, 07:18:39 AM »

It’s that kind of poke parting shot that makes you a troll.

You are always right in your mind. Got it. Here, have a cookie and STFU.

Another poster made a comment and I added that, I was called a troll because apparently I "changed" my mind on it being over.  I just wanted to clarify.

macsak

Re: It's finally over
« Reply #64 on: December 16, 2020, 07:37:33 AM »
If my interaction with Inspector is trolling than yall troll all the time too.  Remember many of you started the name calling.  I just over time started to do it back.   Many of you devolved the civility.  Many of you give nicknames to those who you don't agree with.   To put them down.  Those who don't drink from the same watering hole of information, opinions and facts.   Those who don't think similar.  I care too much about my 2a rights to blindly ignore this.   This is my own opinion but I think the GOP party is on the path to doom.  The country as a whole is starting to lean a certain way on issues. The minority in the GOP are starting to go the opposite direction, trying to convince everyone else to go along. Doing so in my mind would doom the GOP.  I recognize that as of today the GOP protects my 2a rights more than the democrats.   So they normally earn my vote but at the current rate they will lose it.  Myself and many other voters are not an one issue voter. In a way this forum represents a bit of my personal activism.  More people need to fight fake news and disinformation.   The truth many times lies in the middle.  In one breath you say mass fraud is a fact,  with limited evidence.  Using the so called evidence as undeniable truth.   In the next you discount other topics like climate change and covid built with alot of evidence.  But act like it's enough.  People preach freedom from masks and other personal freedom, while being against similar personal freedom choices like abortion.  If you truly believed in personal freedom than drugs, abortion, suicide and many other personal freedom choices should be advocated for also. In the end just like myself you are fighting for your own personal beliefs.  This is America everyone is free to do so.  I'm just showing from my side.   The side I believe is right and has more evidence than yours. 

And yes I still take the stand this election is over.   The possibility of Trump winning in my mind closely approachs zero.

i thought you wanted to move on...

aletheuo137

Re: It's finally over
« Reply #65 on: December 16, 2020, 07:39:01 AM »
Another poster made a comment and I added that, I was called a troll because apparently I "changed" my mind on it being over.  I just wanted to clarify.
Did you not admit you could lose? The election is still up for grabs. If you ever been in a fight or hunted, anything could happen! Nothing is ever guaranteed of it working it's way out one way or another. Best you can do is adapt and overcome. You say coming to zero, well let's wait and see if it comes to that. Even if it does, there's still a fight to be had. Experience is the best teacher over knowledge. Knowledge is useful but knowing what do with it is another thing. Hopefully you will grow and learn to adapt.

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« Last Edit: December 16, 2020, 07:47:49 AM by aletheuo137 »

macsak

Re: It's finally over
« Reply #66 on: December 16, 2020, 07:39:29 AM »
Another poster made a comment and I added that, I was called a troll because apparently I "changed" my mind on it being over.  I just wanted to clarify.

clarify your stance that you have repeated word for word over and over again?

changemyoil66

Re: It's finally over
« Reply #67 on: December 16, 2020, 08:28:04 AM »
clarify your stance that you have repeated word for word over and over again?

Still hasn't clarified what his definition of "mass fraud" is.

Is it the same definition of "mass shooting", which is defined as involving 4 people or more?  The shooter counts as 1, so really 3 or more.

robtmc

Re: It's finally over
« Reply #68 on: December 16, 2020, 08:48:10 AM »
Or are you just switching user names and trying to defend yourself?
Ouch, X-ring.....

omnigun

Re: It's finally over
« Reply #69 on: December 16, 2020, 09:39:33 AM »
Still hasn't clarified what his definition of "mass fraud" is.

Is it the same definition of "mass shooting", which is defined as involving 4 people or more?  The shooter counts as 1, so really 3 or more.

I would say fraud that occurs on a large organized scale.  For this purpose, it would have to be an abnormal amount.  Aka, must be more than recent years.

bass monkey

Re: It's finally over
« Reply #70 on: December 16, 2020, 12:34:38 PM »
If my interaction with Inspector is trolling than yall troll all the time too.  Remember many of you started the name calling.  I just over time started to do it back.   Many of you devolved the civility.


Political discussion aside, a lot of the regular posters actually know,  meet, shoot & go to the capital together for legislative session. Even the good ole G2G with speed T, and many other things. 

That's why we can laugh about inspector and his pet dinosaur,  call people fake doctors,  talk about how electrifying hound is,  etc,  etc. 

aletheuo137

Re: It's finally over
« Reply #71 on: December 16, 2020, 12:36:16 PM »

Political discussion aside, a lot of the regular posters actually know,  meet, shoot & go to the capital together for legislative session. Even the good ole G2G with speed T, and many other things. 

That's why we can laugh about inspector and his pet dinosaur,  call people fake doctors,  talk about how electrifying hound is,  etc,  etc.
Here's one for the millennials:

https://justthenews.com/government/congress/ocasio-cortez-says-its-time-bounce-schumer-pelosi-out-their-powerful-posts?utm_source=justthenews.com&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=external-news-aggregators

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changemyoil66

Re: It's finally over
« Reply #72 on: December 16, 2020, 02:06:08 PM »
I would say fraud that occurs on a large organized scale.  For this purpose, it would have to be an abnormal amount.  Aka, must be more than recent years.

So 10K, 500, 5K? 

So if 100 happened say in 2016, then 101 would be considered "mass fraud"?

bass monkey

Re: It's finally over
« Reply #73 on: December 16, 2020, 02:10:47 PM »
I would say fraud that occurs on a large organized scale.  For this purpose, it would have to be an abnormal amount.  Aka, must be more than recent years.

That's what inspector was talking about in regards to being lied to by the media. 

Every American should be concerned about election fraud.

As the grabbers say,  "if it saves just one life!!"

omnigun

Re: It's finally over
« Reply #74 on: December 16, 2020, 02:16:43 PM »
So 10K, 500, 5K? 

So if 100 happened say in 2016, then 101 would be considered "mass fraud"?


Abnormal amount of coordinated fraud by a party.  So 10k+ because no election came within less than 10k difference.


That's what inspector was talking about in regards to being lied to by the media. 

Every American should be concerned about election fraud.

As the grabbers say,  "if it saves just one life!!"

Election fraud is bad.  Its bad every year and happens every year.  But you work on that and I believe its on a downward trend.   But to spread lies that there is mass fraud that effected the current election appears to be utter nonsense.  No amount of current fraud appears to be able to change the election results.

Also you know "your media"  can also lie....right?

eyeeatingfish

Re: It's finally over
« Reply #75 on: December 16, 2020, 09:12:13 PM »
The kid hates MAGA and is clearly here to rub some salt in the wounds while pretending like he is being helpful. Even though you are here to help manage Honolulu Police Department public relations at least you actually say something useful every once in a while.

I am not sure how you determine his intent. It seems like anyone who comes here with an unpopular or left leaning view, and is vocal, gets labeled a troll.

Sure there are the occasional trolls who have no intent in any real discussions but that does not appear to be omnigun's behavior. At least not from what I have seen, but I haven't read every post of his either so maybe I just missed it?

I wish the police department paid me to spend my time here!

eyeeatingfish

Re: It's finally over
« Reply #76 on: December 16, 2020, 09:15:28 PM »
You post like once a week, if not every 3 weeks
Go back & look through his post history,  instead of just this one thread he started.


Or are you just switching user names and trying to defend yourself?

Haha, no I am not omnigun. Besides, if I were a moderator should be able to see we were using the same IP address, at least thats how it was when I was a moderator on another forum board using the same forum software.

I will grant you that omnigun is very vocal and not afraid of the argument but if he is a troll then  to be fair so are probably a half dozen other people who post here regularly too, they just are on the other side of the issues.

changemyoil66

Re: It's finally over
« Reply #77 on: December 16, 2020, 09:46:19 PM »
Haha, no I am not omnigun. Besides, if I were a moderator should be able to see we were using the same IP address, at least thats how it was when I was a moderator on another forum board using the same forum software.

I will grant you that omnigun is very vocal and not afraid of the argument but if he is a troll then  to be fair so are probably a half dozen other people who post here regularly too, they just are on the other side of the issues.
I wouldnt label him a troll, he just doesnt understand a lot of how things work.

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macsak

Re: It's finally over
« Reply #78 on: December 16, 2020, 10:00:57 PM »

Abnormal amount of coordinated fraud by a party.  So 10k+ because no election came within less than 10k difference.


Election fraud is bad.  Its bad every year and happens every year.  But you work on that and I believe its on a downward trend.   But to spread lies that there is mass fraud that effected the current election appears to be utter nonsense.  No amount of current fraud appears to be able to change the election results.

Also you know "your media"  can also lie....right?

uhhhhhh

macsak

Re: It's finally over
« Reply #79 on: December 16, 2020, 10:02:17 PM »

Abnormal amount of coordinated fraud by a party.  So 10k+ because no election came within less than 10k difference.


Election fraud is bad.  Its bad every year and happens every year.  But you work on that and I believe its on a downward trend.   But to spread lies that there is mass fraud that effected the current election appears to be utter nonsense.  No amount of current fraud appears to be able to change the election results.

Also you know "your media"  can also lie....right?

please explain why you belive this...