Scalia opens door for gun control (Read 6175 times)

hvybarrels

Scalia opens door for gun control
« on: July 29, 2012, 07:34:24 AM »
Mister hardcore conservative supreme court justice himself is flipping the script. It should be pretty obvious to everyone by now that the
agenda is being set by someone outside the three branches.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/29/scalia-opens-door-for-gun-control-legislation/

http://spreadlibertynews.com/judge-scalia-second-amendment-allows-for-regulations/
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bass monkey

Re: Scalia opens door for gun control
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2012, 10:34:30 AM »
I would be curious to know what is this precedents he speaks of. A citation or two from him would be nice.

Cougar8045

Re: Scalia opens door for gun control
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2012, 07:40:35 AM »
This really isn't news; every single right in the Constitution is subject to some sort of regulation.  You have the right to freely assemble and print/say what you want; that doesn't mean you can hold church services in the middle of H-1, or distribute hard-core pornography at an elementary school. 
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hvybarrels

Re: Scalia opens door for gun control
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2012, 02:05:55 PM »
What he's doing is sending a notice to all the trial lawyers and politicians out there that it's open season on 2a and state's rights.
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Funtimes

Re: Scalia opens door for gun control
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2012, 02:25:32 PM »
What he's doing is sending a notice to all the trial lawyers and politicians out there that it's open season on 2a and state's rights.

Did you ever read heller? They have said for a long time that some regulations may be reasonable, and that no right is unlimited.  Nothing new here. :shake: :shake: :shake: :shake:
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hvybarrels

Re: Scalia opens door for gun control
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2012, 03:19:14 PM »
I'm just saying expect a case to ban ak's ar's and more than 10 round mags soon.
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Inspector

Re: Scalia opens door for gun control
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2012, 03:29:49 PM »
I'm just saying expect a case to ban ak's ar's and more than 10 round mags soon.
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hvybarrels

Re: Scalia opens door for gun control
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2012, 03:57:27 PM »
In politics timing is everything.
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Funtimes

Re: Scalia opens door for gun control
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2012, 08:23:01 PM »
The government can't bring a case like that.  And, there is no claim, it would be a policy decision.  You will only see cases challenging these prohibitions.
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hvybarrels

Re: Scalia opens door for gun control
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2012, 05:58:56 AM »
I'm curious how they are going to do it as well. A ruling on the constitutionality of a future attempt of the UN to make a new treaty? An executive order calling people to give up arms during a 'national emergency' kind of like the other ones Obama has been so fond of lately? There has been a nonstop effort to shift massive powers to the state and the corporations that control it (like Citizens United), much of which has happened completely unnoticed.
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Funtimes

Re: Scalia opens door for gun control
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2012, 09:21:37 AM »
I'm curious how they are going to do it as well. A ruling on the constitutionality of a future attempt of the UN to make a new treaty? An executive order calling people to give up arms during a 'national emergency' kind of like the other ones Obama has been so fond of lately? There has been a nonstop effort to shift massive powers to the state and the corporations that control it (like Citizens United), much of which has happened completely unnoticed.

Your thoughts on CU are quite misguided.  Long standing - corporations have had some semblance of  freedom of speech.   Here is one idea for you, if a S Corp can't have speech, why can a Union?  Unions have always been the political lobby of America, funding most ads in many rural or industrial areas.  So, if Microsoft can't put there money whey want it, neither can your local unions, non-profits, or any other organization.

What do you mean constitutionality of a future treaty? That would need to be determined at the time the treaty gets sent to the Senate or later the courts.  The government can't enter into treaties that violate the constitution (or it can be nullified via the courts).  People also forget, that the US (as a country) deals in destruction i.e. small arms, bombs, fighter planes and other 'death' technology.   He can't and won't issue any type of executive order to give up the guns - he's not allowed (and if you did give up your guns, then you were a sheeple).

State power is good, that is what we are supposed to have.  When you don't like it, we vote with our feet, when it violates the constitution - the courts strike it down.
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Inspector

Re: Scalia opens door for gun control
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2012, 10:47:07 AM »
Your thoughts on CU are quite misguided.  Long standing - corporations have had some semblance of  freedom of speech.   Here is one idea for you, if a S Corp can't have speech, why can a Union?  Unions have always been the political lobby of America, funding most ads in many rural or industrial areas.  So, if Microsoft can't put there money whey want it, neither can your local unions, non-profits, or any other organization.

What do you mean constitutionality of a future treaty? That would need to be determined at the time the treaty gets sent to the Senate or later the courts.  The government can't enter into treaties that violate the constitution (or it can be nullified via the courts).  People also forget, that the US (as a country) deals in destruction i.e. small arms, bombs, fighter planes and other 'death' technology.   He can't and won't issue any type of executive order to give up the guns - he's not allowed (and if you did give up your guns, then you were a sheeple).

State power is good, that is what we are supposed to have.  When you don't like it, we vote with our feet, when it violates the constitution - the courts strike it down.
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Heavies

Re: Scalia opens door for gun control
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2012, 02:39:37 PM »
With o'bummer in his second term, his next bench appt. will destroy the second amendment. 

hvybarrels

Re: Scalia opens door for gun control
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2012, 09:09:54 PM »
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I'm just thinking since it's oligarchs we are dealing with here even though they previously worked with the NRA to implement stand your ground laws (later abandoning them in April) it's only a matter of time before they start fearing for their lives and pushing for stricter gun control. Congress has a 16% approval rating, growth is shrinking, jobs are down, money printing is through the roof, and it looks like the second dip is going to be a depression. People are starting to wake up to the corruption and BS, and when they show up in the streets and get beatings from cops it's pretty obvious this ain't your dad's America anymore. We are following the British model so the next step is to militarize and disarm. Maybe they are waiting for the inevitable civil unrest as an excuse?
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