Vengance is MINE... (Read 4617 times)

hvybarrels

Vengance is MINE...
« on: January 14, 2021, 01:21:27 PM »
...said the Lord

This is a very dark period of our history that we are wandering into but it also presents incredible opportunity to revive some of the long standing American institutions that have fallen out of favor as the masses rush to the next speculative bubble trying to get something for nothing or argue in social media prisons about meaningless entertainments. Religion used to play a very strong role in this country not only for spiritual development but also organizing behind fundamental values that transcend whatever the media says we should be obsessed with at the moment.

We are experiencing an unprecedented antagonism that is trying to get us to lash out in anger and PROVE once and for all that people who support the Constitution are monsters who must be destroyed by the State. This threat may seem overwhelming because of the amplification system, but it is more like the Wizard of Oz with a little old man hiding behind a curtain and the more we are in touch with other people (who are not totally brainwashed) the more we see that most Americans do not believe that stuff and are simply focused on getting by.

This gives us a tremendous advantage. While the other side is numbing itself with the narcotics of lies trying to silence the horrific reality of a nation in decline, we have been forced to look it squarely in the face and realize that the "stakes is high" and we had better come up with some alternatives quick.

Do not poison your mind with thoughts of revenge. Systemic failure is already baked into the cake and supporters of the current regime are about to be severely disappointed. When they attack you know it is coming from a place of emptiness and let it remind you there is more to life than being right. Having something other than rage motivating your life and moving toward things that give you a sense of fullness could make all the difference when dealing with the ongoing epidemics of mental illness, suicide and drug addiction that will likely be picking up steam over the coming months and years.

You are not alone. In fact there are many people out there starving for meaningful connection and higher purpose, although many of the organizations appealing for their attention are not trustworthy. My rule is if I see a fancy car in the Priest/Pastor's parking spot I give the place a pass. "Camel through the eye of a needle" is not that difficult to understand. There are also long-standing secular organizations and mutual aid societies for people who are uncomfortable with religion, and likely they will be flooded with new applicants soon so now is a good time to get your foot in the door.

I wrote this for myself but shared it with the hope that some here might benefit as well. I am very grateful to this forum and the community, and knowing I am not going through this alone is gives me encouragement.
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Vengance is MINE...
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2021, 01:46:18 PM »
SOAP BOX:

The Internet is the new "Soap Box" for political speech.  Conservatives, Republicans and anyone else not towing the Democrat Party line is being censored by Big Tech and put out of business by the Left's cancel culture.  Without access to the Soap Box for political speech, for no other reason than the platforms decide they don't agree with or like your content, this is no longer a viable option to protest.


BALLOT BOX:

This past election demonstrated what many have feared for decades -- that the elections are being manipulated by the people in Democrat-controlled cities.  Before, it was mostly local and state races that were impacted, so the problem was isolated to the state's borders.  If the people wanted to fix that problem, it was up to them.  Now that it's affecting Presidential ballots and US Congressional seats, it's no longer a state problem, but a national one.   If we can't trust the integrity of the elections, then the Ballot Box is no longer a viable means of protest.


CARTRIDGE BOX:

The past year's shortage and rising prices illustrate how this option is being impacted now.  Arms without ammunition are just expensive clubs.  While this remains a viable option of protest for those with supplies already acquired, it also remains the last recourse in a country founded on the rule of law above all else.  As we have seen the last decade or more, it seems the people writing and enforcing the laws are not expected to live by them.  This will eventually reach a tipping point, at which time there will be a need to demand our government be held accountable for their individual and collective crimes.  Peaceful protest is preferred.  Non-peaceful would be the final option to resist tyrannical governance.


What's left?  The media is lying to us.  The judicial branch is unwilling to get involved.  Congress is spilt almost down the middle with a thin majority for the Left.  The President-Elect* is illegitimate in the eyes of half the country.  The corruption that Trump was working against (and that was working against him) is only going to get worse now -- that includes the Biden money laundering business.

Things are looking bleak.  I'd say we can expect the cavalry to arrive any minute now, but I'm afraid they are all working for the INTEL and DOJ conspirators who sought to remove Trump from office starting when he was nominated as the GOP candidate.

Ever notice how many of Trump's people were caught for lying to the FBI, yet we have sworn Congressional testimony from FBI Director James Comey that Hildabeast lied to them about her servers, the classifications of materials stored there, what happened to backups that were under subpoena, devices that were destroyed while under subpoena, and so on.  The people who should have gone to federal prison were given immunity, yet nobody was arrested in that investigation -- not one soul.  When immunity is offered, it's usually in exchange for information or evidence that can convict another person.  Where are those convictions?  Not even an indictment.  Yeah, there's no proof there are two standards for law enforcement.   :wacko:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Vengance is MINE...
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2021, 02:11:33 PM »
I still have hope that we can solve our issues peacefully by setting a better example than the rabid haters on the other side of the aisle, who are already wearing out their welcome.

The fact remains that warriors with a solid spiritual foundation have more resources than their secular counterparts regardless if bullets are flying or not.
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

drck1000

Re: Vengance is MINE...
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2021, 02:15:43 PM »
I still have hope that we can solve our issues peacefully by setting a better example than the rabid haters on the other side of the aisle, who are already wearing out their welcome.

The fact remains that warriors with a solid spiritual foundation have more resources than their secular counterparts regardless if bullets are flying or not.
I don't see it going that way.  Things have been escalating for a while and seemingly pushing for more to demand attention. 

hvybarrels

Re: Vengance is MINE...
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2021, 02:20:44 PM »
I don't see it going that way.  Things have been escalating for a while and seemingly pushing for more to demand attention.

When you see how much trouble legacy media is in, how fake journalists are losing their jobs, and how Hollywood takes are diminishing it is a sign that people are rejecting the programming

Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

drck1000

Re: Vengance is MINE...
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2021, 02:42:02 PM »
When you see how much trouble legacy media is in, how fake journalists are losing their jobs, and how Hollywood takes are diminishing it is a sign that people are rejecting the programming

When folks Colbert, Fallon and others like them are off the air my rate of  ::) will go way down.  And that's only from the snippets I see on commercials. . .

omnigun

Re: Vengance is MINE...
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2021, 03:12:54 PM »
I still have hope that we can solve our issues peacefully by setting a better example than the rabid haters on the other side of the aisle, who are already wearing out their welcome.

The fact remains that warriors with a solid spiritual foundation have more resources than their secular counterparts regardless if bullets are flying or not.

Not sure what you mean about this.  There's plenty of resources growing for the secular crowd.  And with the new generation moving in that direction it only grows.

fishandshoot

Re: Vengance is MINE...
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2021, 07:47:32 PM »
Good podcast about having a biblical/constitutional perspective. And on another note... please don’t feed the troll :)

hvybarrels

Re: Vengance is MINE...
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2021, 09:54:03 PM »
I should have said Materialist rather than Secular. Those are the people who think that not having a religion makes them more special than anyone else, which is the worst kind of religion there is. Communists, for example, are actually fundamentalist worshippers of the Party as well as whatever trending demagogues stabbed enough people in the back to make it to the top of the heap.

Notice how the Wuhan Virus lockdowns disproportionately targeted religious institutions. We know why giant corporations hate small business, but there must also be something in those churches worth attacking.
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

Inspector

Re: Vengance is MINE...
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2021, 06:20:30 AM »
...said the Lord

This is a very dark period of our history that we are wandering into but it also presents incredible opportunity to revive some of the long standing American institutions that have fallen out of favor as the masses rush to the next speculative bubble trying to get something for nothing or argue in social media prisons about meaningless entertainments. Religion used to play a very strong role in this country not only for spiritual development but also organizing behind fundamental values that transcend whatever the media says we should be obsessed with at the moment.

We are experiencing an unprecedented antagonism that is trying to get us to lash out in anger and PROVE once and for all that people who support the Constitution are monsters who must be destroyed by the State. This threat may seem overwhelming because of the amplification system, but it is more like the Wizard of Oz with a little old man hiding behind a curtain and the more we are in touch with other people (who are not totally brainwashed) the more we see that most Americans do not believe that stuff and are simply focused on getting by.

This gives us a tremendous advantage. While the other side is numbing itself with the narcotics of lies trying to silence the horrific reality of a nation in decline, we have been forced to look it squarely in the face and realize that the "stakes is high" and we had better come up with some alternatives quick.

Do not poison your mind with thoughts of revenge. Systemic failure is already baked into the cake and supporters of the current regime are about to be severely disappointed. When they attack you know it is coming from a place of emptiness and let it remind you there is more to life than being right. Having something other than rage motivating your life and moving toward things that give you a sense of fullness could make all the difference when dealing with the ongoing epidemics of mental illness, suicide and drug addiction that will likely be picking up steam over the coming months and years.

You are not alone. In fact there are many people out there starving for meaningful connection and higher purpose, although many of the organizations appealing for their attention are not trustworthy. My rule is if I see a fancy car in the Priest/Pastor's parking spot I give the place a pass. "Camel through the eye of a needle" is not that difficult to understand. There are also long-standing secular organizations and mutual aid societies for people who are uncomfortable with religion, and likely they will be flooded with new applicants soon so now is a good time to get your foot in the door.

I wrote this for myself but shared it with the hope that some here might benefit as well. I am very grateful to this forum and the community, and knowing I am not going through this alone is gives me encouragement.
Thanks for writing this. I like what you wrote here. I am one of the secular of which you wrote. But at the same time I have the utmost respect for the religious as they are the majority doing work for the less fortunate. They are the silent majority IMHO. They do it and don’t flaunt it and don’t expect anything in return. Unlike most of the secular I see that don’t respect the religious and and flaunt their good deeds in order to garner admiration.

While I am secular I feel it is important to give back in some way(s). I have sought out non-religious and/or secular organizations to volunteer for. But recently I have found myself helping more and more religious organizations as I see they require more help than the secular organizations I have been helping. I feel more acceptance by the religious people I am around than I do by the secular I am around. And having more and more exposure to religion I am going through a bit of an epiphany in my life right now.

I feel it is very important for people to stay connected. And even more so in this time of lockdowns and suicides, especially teen suicides, it has become more and more apparent the sick and twisted lockdown regulations are having an even greater unintended effect.

What you wrote really hit me unexpectedly.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

oldfart

Re: Vengance is MINE...
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2021, 06:39:39 AM »
That was a nice post by hvy.
 :thumbsup: :shaka: :shaka: :shaka:
What, Me Worry?

groveler

Re: Vengance is MINE...
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2021, 07:50:31 AM »
That was a nice post by hvy.
 :thumbsup: :shaka: :shaka: :shaka:
I agree 100%
We do speak English and it must noted that "vengeance" is a noun.
Revenge is a Transitive Verb.
I'm not prohibited by my religious beliefs from action(verb) to
protect myself and my family from enemies, domestic and foreign.
Right now my Domestic enemies are a far greater threat than
foreign ones.
It all starts on January 20th at noon EST.
I hope y'all are ready.



robtmc

Re: Vengance is MINE...
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2021, 09:51:57 AM »
" like the Wizard of Oz with a little old man hiding behind a curtain "

As soon as I saw this phrase, this character jumped into view:

bass monkey

Re: Vengance is MINE...
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2021, 10:19:47 AM »
Thanks for writing this. I like what you wrote here. I am one of the secular of which you wrote. But at the same time I have the utmost respect for the religious as they are the majority doing work for the less fortunate. They are the silent majority IMHO. They do it and don’t flaunt it and don’t expect anything in return. Unlike most of the secular I see that don’t respect the religious and and flaunt their good deeds in order to garner admiration.

While I am secular I feel it is important to give back in some way(s). I have sought out non-religious and/or secular organizations to volunteer for. But recently I have found myself helping more and more religious organizations as I see they require more help than the secular organizations I have been helping. I feel more acceptance by the religious people I am around than I do by the secular I am around. And having more and more exposure to religion I am going through a bit of an epiphany in my life right now.

I feel it is very important for people to stay connected. And even more so in this time of lockdowns and suicides, especially teen suicides, it has become more and more apparent the sick and twisted lockdown regulations are having an even greater unintended effect.

What you wrote really hit me unexpectedly.

I hope in not crossing lines,  but what is your non secular family in Israel take on things?

Inspector

Re: Vengance is MINE...
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2021, 11:20:04 AM »
I hope in not crossing lines,  but what is your non secular family in Israel take on things?
BTW, I’m the only secular one in the family.

My family in Israel is terrified of Biden. They very much appreciated the friendship that Trump and the US gave to Israel after 8 years of wondering if the US and Obama was going to abandon them after 8 years. Without the help and friendship of the US Israel would not survive for long. And that is what they are worried about. Iran constantly threatens Israel with destruction. They are starting to enrich uranium up to 20% which is weapons grade uranium. They have built their facilities so deep in the ground that even our bunker buster bomb will not penetrate the facility. They are constantly bombarded by rockets supplied by Iran which are fired from Palestine. And the rockets are getting bigger and more sophisticated and are getting closer and closer to where my niece and her family live. Her husband is from South America and if they are forced to move they would probably move there. My niece is from SoCal and her parents still live there. So they have that option to move to if they have to. Right now they are praying that Biden and his administration will not turn the US’s back to Israel. Needless to say they are terrified.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

eyeeatingfish

Re: Vengance is MINE...
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2021, 09:35:40 PM »
When it comes to god, I prefer to leave him out of issues like this. Jesus didn't come choosing political sides. He didn't pick the Romans or the Pharisees or the Sadducees.

groveler

Re: Vengance is MINE...
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2021, 11:19:34 PM »
When it comes to god, I prefer to leave him out of issues like this. Jesus didn't come choosing political sides. He didn't pick the Romans or the Pharisees or the Sadducees.
Just for you, typically "God" is capitalized.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Vengance is MINE...
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2021, 11:54:52 PM »
Just for you, typically "God" is capitalized.

As are "Him", "Lord", "Father" and any other word used to address or reference God.   :thumbsup:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Vengance is MINE...
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2021, 04:02:33 PM »
I think the reason we find ourselves in this time is the reduced role of religion in our society. Entertainment and the MSM media replaced the moral figures of religion. No longer are community gathering places in churches.
Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Vengance is MINE...
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2021, 04:12:57 PM »
I think the reason we find ourselves in this time is the reduced role of religion in our society. Entertainment and the MSM media replaced the moral figures of religion. No longer are community gathering places in churches.

I think churches are good at teaching morals, providing comfort and offering a more wholesome atmosphere to meet and socialize with others.

We use movies, books, fables, songs and other story-telling media to teach people life lessons and how to behave in society -- as well as the consequences for misbehaving whether it's the legal system, karma or whatever.  Church is another way to do that. 

You may not agree with ALL the lessons being taught, but neither does anyone agree with every "moral" of every story ever written, recorded, filmed or spoken.  The point is to be able to add those teachings to your brain's "library" and apply the lessons if/when the need ever arises.

Being guided by morals and values is always preferred to not having the faintest clue what to do in a situation.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw