You are the one complaining I didn't follow through.  I do what I can,  but I can only do so much.  So I work hard, save up so one day I can live up to me ideals and dreams.  Nothing happens overnight or magically.  Just because I am not instantly able to do be "green"  doesn't lessen my goals or dreams. I work hard so one day I can do everything I preach, unlike you who just complains.  I don't expect handouts but I also don't expect to be able to do everything right now.

One day? Haven't you read that the planet is fucking dying right now! So stop driving to work and walk. Stop using those damn straws. Stop using plastic utensils! Buy Malama wooden made-in-China utensils, because the planet is dying!

https://www.un.org/press/en/2019/ga12131.doc.htm

Only 11 Years Left to Prevent Irreversible Damage from Climate Change, Speakers Warn during General Assembly High-Level Meeting

One day? Haven't you read that the planet is fucking dying right now!

https://www.un.org/press/en/2019/ga12131.doc.htm

Only 11 Years Left to Prevent Irreversible Damage from Climate Change, Speakers Warn during General Assembly High-Level Meeting

Some progress is better than no progress.

I'd be a lot healthier if I could afford fresh vegies and all non-GMO organic products.  McD's and Wendy's are cheaper.

I'd be in great shape if I could afford a fitness club membership.

I'd be running my own business if I could afford the startup capital.

I'd be using solar if I could afford the installation and owned a home.

I'd be using wind if I owned a home with enough property.

I'd be rich if I wasn't buying guns I never intend to shoot.

I'd have more money if I wasn't getting scammed for things I don't need, like guns and VR goggles.


If you're waiting for someone else to make you a successful adult, the problem isn't other people.

I hate to say this but that poor kid wouldn’t last 5 minutes working construction. If he was not run out on a rail, he would quit from embarrassment. And he would learn a lot of very hard life lessons. It’s easy to stay in your little state run bubble posting on forums trying to act big but keep getting cut down. If he is trying to make friends here he is not doing very good.

Working for my last employer I saw junior engineers (Millennials) being sent out to do my job when I was tied up on other projects and they would come back in tears. They all got pushed around, made fun of and a couple were threatened. I hated to see it, but I hoped they learned something from their experience.

Some progress is better than no progress.

You have made none.

I hate to say this but that poor kid wouldn’t last 5 minutes working construction. If he was not run out on a rail, he would quit from embarrassment. And he would learn a lot of very hard life lessons. It’s easy to stay in your little state run bubble posting on forums trying to act big but keep getting cut down. If he is trying to make friends here he is not doing very good.

Working for my last employer I saw junior engineers (Millennials) being sent out to do my job when I was tied up on other projects and they would come back in tears. They all got pushed around, made fun of and a couple were threatened. I hated to see it, but I hoped they learned something from their experience.

I have done lots of grunt construction work since I.moved here. I even made a girl that was working with us cry once...

I have done lots of grunt construction work since I.moved here. I even made a girl that was working with us cry once...

It’s not hard to do. The job is hard enough. But as soon as they start making excuses, they’re toast.

Worked for a general contractor as a project engineer. Left and worked overseas after 6 months. Lots of money to be made but I hated going to work. Not a CE but some of the older PEs treated me as such. Old crusty PE with lots of CE credentials threw me a transit (WTF is this?) and gave me a 3 minute lesson on how to use it. Next day he expected me to use it proficiently. I failed. Then he made my service record trivial and that was the last straw. So threw in the hat and went back to the sand box.

Don’t feel bad about the transit! Keiwit, the contractor out on the first half of the rail, did the same thing to me. Gave me a 5 minute lesson on using a transit and expected me to verify their work and do their job for them. In essence trying to make me responsible for their work. After I figured out what was going on I started to purposely come up with different measurements. They finally gave up thinking I didn’t know what I was doing. Little did they know I knew exactly what I was doing! 

Big Mike wants Lobster and Wagyu steak.

He crush if not served his due.........

You have made none.

Please fund me and I shall do everything I said.  Hard to put up solar without a home.  Hard to do wind without land.  Hard to buy a car without money.  Everything comes down to funding.  And as an average young millennial I don't exactly have alot of that.

we all know what you exactly have a lot of...

Where do you live now? We can't drill for oil here in Hawaii and there's only one refinery now located in a Campbell INDUSTRIAL Park. Less than 30% of our power in Hawaii comes from petroleum. So moot point there as it is highly unlikely you will live near a petrol plant.
https://www.eia.gov/state/analysis.php?sid=HI
And that's the irony there; supposedly "green" energy solutions (with all those concrete foundations) supplemented with carbon fuel sources.
With that said, wonder why we have one of the nation's highest per kwh rate?

The people that LIVE THERE NOW have some valid points
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2019/10/14/protesters-gather-attempt-block-kahuku-wind-farm-construction/

But there’s a pending court appeal, and opponents also have several concerns, including the impact the turbines may have on the Kahuku community and on wildlife, such as the Hawaiian hoary bat.
“We are not here to protest green energy. We want green energy. We’re just here to say we don’t need anymore monstrosities in our backyard,” said project opponent Malia Alatasi.

Absolutely, many green energy options have some serious drawbacks and are not as green as they are presented

Absolutely, many green energy options have some serious drawbacks and are not as green as they are presented

Until we find a way to harness the Sun's energy without relying on fossil fuels to do it, the only true Green Energy source is nuclear.

With that, we can power homes and businesses day and night.  The byproduct that is released is steam.

The amount of materials needed to feed reactors is small compared to fossil fuel generators.  Nuclear waste is also less of a problem today than 40 years ago.

Reactors can provide the majority of energy, and that can in turn charge vehicles, reduce dependence on oil, etc.

BTW, anyone who thinks their electric car uses no oil products should not be trusted to manage the maintenance on it.

Dan Crenshaw Rips John Kerry For Telling Laid-Off Oil Workers To Go ‘Make The Solar Panels’

https://www.dailywire.com/news/dan-crenshaw-rips-john-kerry-for-telling-laid-off-oil-workers-to-go-make-the-solar-panels?utm_campaign=dw_newsletter&utm_medium=email&_hsmi=108639038&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-9_eSieLi7U_QN4OVA1EES8tCYWJTZoKk9aa5hC_4UFigMPsPUqSNRqdrMTkS3IITjPqySrcg_o6BHSyvD-V2FgjoqRZw&utm_content=non_insiders&utm_source=housefile

Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-TX) slammed John Kerry, the U.S. special presidential envoy for climate, on Wednesday for suggesting that workers losing their jobs in the fossil fuel industry can transition to jobs in clean energy.

“John Kerry – worth hundreds of millions — telling blue-collar workers to just ‘go to work to make the solar panels.’ By the way, solar will pay on average $20K less than oil and gas jobs,” Crenshaw tweeted on Wednesday. “John Kerry thinks you should just shutup and accept it. No.”

Dan Crenshaw Rips John Kerry For Telling Laid-Off Oil Workers To Go ‘Make The Solar Panels’

https://www.dailywire.com/news/dan-crenshaw-rips-john-kerry-for-telling-laid-off-oil-workers-to-go-make-the-solar-panels?utm_campaign=dw_newsletter&utm_medium=email&_hsmi=108639038&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-9_eSieLi7U_QN4OVA1EES8tCYWJTZoKk9aa5hC_4UFigMPsPUqSNRqdrMTkS3IITjPqySrcg_o6BHSyvD-V2FgjoqRZw&utm_content=non_insiders&utm_source=housefile

Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-TX) slammed John Kerry, the U.S. special presidential envoy for climate, on Wednesday for suggesting that workers losing their jobs in the fossil fuel industry can transition to jobs in clean energy.

“John Kerry – worth hundreds of millions — telling blue-collar workers to just ‘go to work to make the solar panels.’ By the way, solar will pay on average $20K less than oil and gas jobs,” Crenshaw tweeted on Wednesday. “John Kerry thinks you should just shutup and accept it. No.”

That's okay, though.  The government will just retrain everyone and pay for it.  They will also keep them on unemployment until they are retrained and the nonexistent green jobs magically appear in their town.  And, if the pay is lower than their old jobs, well, that's just the price THEY HAVE TO PAY for the Green New Deal supporters to feel good about themselves.

That's okay, though.  The government will just retrain everyone and pay for it.  They will also keep them on unemployment until they are retrained and the nonexistent green jobs magically appear in their town.  And, if the pay is lower than their old jobs, well, that's just the price THEY HAVE TO PAY for the Green New Deal supporters to feel good about themselves.

You know the thing is I went and read Joe Biden’s climate and energy plans. What a bunch of BULLSHIT. Not only are they full of lies but they don’t really say anything. They use such big statements like they are going to do this and this. But they NEVER say how they are going to go about implementing these plans or how much these plans will cost. Nor do they say where the money to implement these plans is coming from. So we have to wait to find out what they intend to do and by that time it is too late to vote for the other candidate.

Here is a plan. Why doesn’t Biden incentivize the industry to create jobs FIRST and then slowly and methodically and predictably start to ween us off fossil fuels? In other words, make sure those jobs are there before he rips and tears jobs away from people. Instead, he just rips 15,000 great paying jobs away away from hard working Americans and then tells them to find another job. He provides nothing for them and just says go get another job. He is a liar and full of shit. When will he start “creating” the jobs he just took away? Even if he started tomorrow it would take years before those unemployed pipeline workers are able to get back into employment after being trained. To do what he did, when he did, and how he did is just being an asshole. He has no concern for the American worker. And his actions show it.

Don’t get me wrong. I’m not in favor of this as we both know government cannot create jobs in private industry. All they can do is spend our tax dollars to incentivize private industry. Which as we saw with Solyndra it doesn’t guarantee jobs. It just guarantees waste and corruption. To think that ripping all those great paying jobs away from hard working Americans and telling them to just go pound sand as being a good thing for the greater good is just not seeing the bigger picture and is really fucking stupid.

Here is a list, as complete as I could find, of solar panel manufacturers here in the US. And one or two of them may also get their panels from China as well as make them here. Some also may make their panels in Canada. It is hard to say completely. There are 8 listed here. Of the eight, five list their job openings. One of the three that does not list their job openings actually had their website down for maintenance. So they may list their job openings once their website comes back online.

Out of the five sites that list job openings, they show a total of 23 job openings. Of those openings many of them require degrees and/or prior experience. Virtually none of them are manufacturing jobs. And some would require moving to a different country such as Canada or somewhere in Europe.

This is the largest US panel maker. They have a total of 1 degree required opening in Ontario, Canada
https://heliene.com/careers/

Second Largest US Solar Panel Manufacturer does not say how many openings
https://www.missionsolar.com/careers/

Mission Solar’s Sister Company has a total of 1 degree required opening
https://ocisolarpower.com/careers/

Silfab Solar has a total of 7 openings in the US and 5 in Ontario, Canada
https://silfabsolar.com/job-opportunities-2/

Solaria has a total of 1 International Sales opening
https://www.solaria.com/careers

Seraphim has a total of 8 openings. Some in the US and others internationally.
https://www.seraphim-energy.us/?s=Careers

SolarTech Universal does not list it’s openings.
http://solartechuniversal.com/careers

Suniva’s website was under maintenance at the time.
http://www.suniva.com/careers.php

Based on this limited information, I would come to the conclusion that there are close to ZERO Solar Panel Manufacturing Jobs Available at this time.

A search on Indeed comes up with exactly ZERO Solar Panel Manufacturing jobs available.
https://www.indeed.com/q-Solar-Panel-Manufacturing-jobs.html

Looks to me like Good Ole Joe Biden just fucked 15,000+ pipeline workers out of their jobs, homes and families. Does it matter if they are retrained in making solar panels? Not if there are no job openings. Thanks Joe for undoing 15,000+ American citizens’ jobs. And this was done for the common good? BULLSHIT!

We don't learn that govt is the LEAST effective at managing anything!

Here is a list, as complete as I could find, of solar panel manufacturers here in the US. And one or two of them may also get their panels from China as well as make them here. Some also may make their panels in Canada. It is hard to say completely. There are 8 listed here. Of the eight, five list their job openings. One of the three that does not list their job openings actually had their website down for maintenance. So they may list their job openings once their website comes back online.

Out of the five sites that list job openings, they show a total of 23 job openings. Of those openings many of them require degrees and/or prior experience. Virtually none of them are manufacturing jobs. And some would require moving to a different country such as Canada or somewhere in Europe.

This is the largest US panel maker. They have a total of 1 degree required opening in Ontario, Canada
https://heliene.com/careers/

Second Largest US Solar Panel Manufacturer does not say how many openings
https://www.missionsolar.com/careers/

Mission Solar’s Sister Company has a total of 1 degree required opening
https://ocisolarpower.com/careers/

Silfab Solar has a total of 7 openings in the US and 5 in Ontario, Canada
https://silfabsolar.com/job-opportunities-2/

Solaria has a total of 1 International Sales opening
https://www.solaria.com/careers

Seraphim has a total of 8 openings. Some in the US and others internationally.
https://www.seraphim-energy.us/?s=Careers

SolarTech Universal does not list it’s openings.
http://solartechuniversal.com/careers

Suniva’s website was under maintenance at the time.
http://www.suniva.com/careers.php

Based on this limited information, I would come to the conclusion that there are close to ZERO Solar Panel Manufacturing Jobs Available at this time.

A search on Indeed comes up with exactly ZERO Solar Panel Manufacturing jobs available.
https://www.indeed.com/q-Solar-Panel-Manufacturing-jobs.html

Looks to me like Good Ole Joe Biden just fucked 15,000+ pipeline workers out of their jobs, homes and families. Does it matter if they are retrained in making solar panels? Not if there are no job openings. Thanks Joe for undoing 15,000+ American citizens’ jobs. And this was done for the common good? BULLSHIT!

Retirement life must be nice to have the time to do this.  But thanks because it gives me info that I can use to other morons on my fb timeline who post about it.

Not really an undo, but he affirmed the Jone's Act that screws HI over.

InB4 it creates American jobs and not realizing it actually killed jobs because they buy ships overseas more due to the cost of the Jone's act that the unions control.  And said unions donate buku $ to politicians to keep the status quo. 

InB4 it provides more trucking jobs, trucking has always been more cost effective and logistical cause you can't boat stuff from CA to MN. See above about screwing HI.

InB4 magical green cargo ships that run on magic energy.

Retirement life must be nice to have the time to do this.  But thanks because it gives me info that I can use to other morons on my fb timeline who post about it.

Not really an undo, but he affirmed the Jone's Act that screws HI over.

InB4 it creates American jobs and not realizing it actually killed jobs because they buy ships overseas more due to the cost of the Jone's act that the unions control.  And said unions donate buku $ to politicians to keep the status quo. 

InB4 it provides more trucking jobs, trucking has always been more cost effective and logistical cause you can't boat stuff from CA to MN. See above about screwing HI.

InB4 magical green cargo ships that run on magic energy.

Thanks, it did take a while. Before you use it on other morons, I suggest you double check my work just in case I made an error. I started this early in the morning without much coffee in me. 

I really thought Linda Lingle might have had a chance to do away with the Jones Act. Oh well.....

No union should have that much power over the government and politicians. I hope someday Hawaii voters wake up and vote with their heads instead of their emotions.

There is a reason why ships and planes are not governed by the pollution reduction requirements. Everyone on Hawaii would die if they tried to place those types of restrictions on boats and planes.

Thanks, it did take a while. Before you use it on other morons, I suggest you double check my work just in case I made an error. I started this early in the morning without much coffee in me. 

I really thought Linda Lingle might have had a chance to do away with the Jones Act. Oh well.....

No union should have that much power over the government and politicians. I hope someday Hawaii voters wake up and vote with their heads instead of their emotions.

There is a reason why ships and planes are not governed by the pollution reduction requirements. Everyone on Hawaii would die if they tried to place those types of restrictions on boats and planes.

IIRC Jone's is a fed act, so Lingle would have no authority to do away with it.  She or anyone could petition to have it removed, but it would take DC to do it. I'm not 100% certain of this though.

HI voters are very stupid and will never wake up.  Look at where HI is today.  For years people been grumbling of gambling being illegal. Now when it has a chance, majority of the comments on multiple FB pages are against it.  Guess HI people don't want a 2nd source of revenue besides tourism.  Same going on with pakalolo now.  There's a bill to make recreational use legal on state level, and many against it.  You cannot make this stuff up.  Either that or the pages are editing comments.