China warns Taiwan 'independence means war' as US dismisses comments (Read 19055 times)

robtmc

Re: China warns Taiwan 'independence means war' as US dismisses comments
« Reply #40 on: January 29, 2021, 05:19:45 PM »
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: China warns Taiwan 'independence means war' as US dismisses comments
« Reply #41 on: January 29, 2021, 05:20:53 PM »
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How much is China paying you?  Is your family in danger?  Never met such a pro-china person in my life.

Then you haven't been listening to a single word Biden said the last 6 years.

FLASHBACK: Joe Biden: ‘China Is Not Our Problem’

https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/19/flashback-joe-biden-china-not-our-problem/
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: China warns Taiwan 'independence means war' as US dismisses comments
« Reply #42 on: January 29, 2021, 05:22:51 PM »
I literally spelt out my one major goal for taiwan-usa relationship maybe 3 times in this thread....

Taiwan- USA defense treaty/pact.  Where if either country gets attacked the other helps.  Similar to Japan.

if you knew anything about foreign policy and the biden family business, you would know that is never going to happen
but, as usual, you are just spouting shit you belive to be true
it had a TINY chance of happening under trump, but absolutely ZERO chance any other time

Flapp_Jackson

Re: China warns Taiwan 'independence means war' as US dismisses comments
« Reply #43 on: January 29, 2021, 05:26:45 PM »
I literally spelt out my one major goal for taiwan-usa relationship maybe 3 times in this thread....

Taiwan- USA defense treaty/pact.  Where if either country gets attacked the other helps.  Similar to Japan.

Spelt?  Did your auto-correct get you again?   :wacko:

You literally couldn't spell your way out of 1st grade.

#NoSuchWord
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: China warns Taiwan 'independence means war' as US dismisses comments
« Reply #44 on: January 29, 2021, 05:35:04 PM »
I literally spelt out my one major goal for taiwan-usa relationship maybe 3 times in this thread....

Taiwan- USA defense treaty/pact.  Where if either country gets attacked the other helps.  Similar to Japan.

So, even though China still has a legal right to govern in Taiwan, as was SPELT out in the Taiwan Relations Act of 1979, you think if Taiwan has a revolution to break away from China, we should have a commitment to start a war with China (of all countries) regardless of who started the situation in Taiwan or over what issues?

We might as well do that for every other nation-state in the world, because we don't have enough reasons to get involved in foreign wars. 

Maybe you should change your goals and make them the UN's goals, not America's.  They seem to have a more global jurisdiction than we do.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Re: China warns Taiwan 'independence means war' as US dismisses comments
« Reply #45 on: January 29, 2021, 06:03:54 PM »
How much is China paying you?  Is your family in danger?  Never met such a pro-china person in my life.
When it comes to China, I am pro-truth.  All this anti-Chinese rhetoric serves nothing but to pit the American populace, against a foreign country, instead of the ultrawealthy elite that run the US empire that is also hell-bent, in eradicating the last remaining patriots, of the American Republic.

Barring nuclear weapons, who do you think will be doing the fighting and dying, from the American side?  The American patriots, of course, whose unwavering patriotism, the US empire is counting on.  By going to war with China or whatever nation stands, in their way for global domination, they can finally rid their empire, of those who remember what America was, thereby, extinguishing the former American Republic forever.

As a Hawaiian patriot that supports American patriots, keeping the truth alive is what it is all about.

RSN172

Re: China warns Taiwan 'independence means war' as US dismisses comments
« Reply #46 on: January 29, 2021, 07:02:50 PM »
Spelt?  Did your auto-correct get you again?   :wacko:

You literally couldn't spell your way out of 1st grade.

#NoSuchWord
He might be English or Australian.   Ova dea dey use spelt instead of spelled.
Happily living in Puna

Flapp_Jackson

Re: China warns Taiwan 'independence means war' as US dismisses comments
« Reply #47 on: January 29, 2021, 07:17:43 PM »
He might be English or Australian.   Ova dea dey use spelt instead of spelled.

"Write like you speak" doesn't work if you talk funny.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: China warns Taiwan 'independence means war' as US dismisses comments
« Reply #48 on: January 29, 2021, 07:18:36 PM »
Then you haven't been listening to a single word Biden said the last 6 years.

FLASHBACK: Joe Biden: ‘China Is Not Our Problem’

https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/19/flashback-joe-biden-china-not-our-problem/

Biden is still less pro china than him. 

omnigun

Re: China warns Taiwan 'independence means war' as US dismisses comments
« Reply #49 on: January 29, 2021, 07:19:05 PM »
if you knew anything about foreign policy and the biden family business, you would know that is never going to happen
but, as usual, you are just spouting shit you belive to be true
it had a TINY chance of happening under trump, but absolutely ZERO chance any other time

Its not all about biden,  if the democrats who tend to support taiwan pass a bill i dobut he is going to veto.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: China warns Taiwan 'independence means war' as US dismisses comments
« Reply #50 on: January 29, 2021, 07:21:01 PM »
Its not all about biden,  if the democrats who tend to support taiwan pass a bill i dobut he is going to veto.

Who are these Democrats who "tend to support Taiwan?"

You seem to know all these people and what their policies are, yet I never see you posting their names.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: China warns Taiwan 'independence means war' as US dismisses comments
« Reply #51 on: January 29, 2021, 07:23:50 PM »
So, even though China still has a legal right to govern in Taiwan, as was SPELT out in the Taiwan Relations Act of 1979, you think if Taiwan has a revolution to break away from China, we should have a commitment to start a war with China (of all countries) regardless of who started the situation in Taiwan or over what issues?

We might as well do that for every other nation-state in the world, because we don't have enough reasons to get involved in foreign wars. 

Maybe you should change your goals and make them the UN's goals, not America's.  They seem to have a more global jurisdiction than we do.

Short answer yes.  Long answer we should word it we will come to the defense, not offense.  I highly doubt Taiwan will want to start a war with china and attack.   But if one day they decide to declare independence and that leads to china attacking I would 100% support us coming to defense.   I view china as the greatest threat to America, and the world.

omnigun

Re: China warns Taiwan 'independence means war' as US dismisses comments
« Reply #52 on: January 29, 2021, 07:24:42 PM »
Who are these Democrats who "tend to support Taiwan?"

You seem to know all these people and what their policies are, yet I never see you posting their names.

saw the news the last time china made trouble to taiwan I recall several democrats wanting stronger defense language for taiwan.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: China warns Taiwan 'independence means war' as US dismisses comments
« Reply #53 on: January 29, 2021, 07:25:53 PM »
saw the news the last time china made trouble to taiwan I recall several democrats wanting stronger defense language for taiwan.

Only Democrats?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: China warns Taiwan 'independence means war' as US dismisses comments
« Reply #54 on: January 29, 2021, 07:29:56 PM »
Short answer yes.  Long answer we should word it we will come to the defense, not offense.  I highly doubt Taiwan will want to start a war with china and attack.   But if one day they decide to declare independence and that leads to china attacking I would 100% support us coming to defense.   I view china as the greatest threat to America, and the world.

Do you know what was in the Taiwan Assurance Act?  How many of your "goals" did that accomplish?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: China warns Taiwan 'independence means war' as US dismisses comments
« Reply #55 on: January 29, 2021, 07:41:13 PM »
Its not all about biden,  if the democrats who tend to support taiwan pass a bill i dobut he is going to veto.

what the fuck is a dobut?

if you knew anything besides how to ignore a spell checker that is built into a forum, you would know that there is very little support both historically and currently to recognize taiwan, much less sign a mutual defense pact

macsak

Re: China warns Taiwan 'independence means war' as US dismisses comments
« Reply #56 on: January 29, 2021, 07:42:57 PM »
Biden is still less pro china than him.

who is him?

omnigun

Re: China warns Taiwan 'independence means war' as US dismisses comments
« Reply #57 on: January 29, 2021, 07:44:41 PM »
what the fuck is a dobut?

if you knew anything besides how to ignore a spell checker that is built into a forum, you would know that there is very little support both historically and currently to recognize taiwan, much less sign a mutual defense pact

You misspell too but I don't bitch about it every other post.  If the biggest issue with my posts are my spelling I know I've posted something good, as the only thing you can find wrong is spelling. I also know there is not all that much support, hence I HOPE. 

omnigun

Re: China warns Taiwan 'independence means war' as US dismisses comments
« Reply #58 on: January 29, 2021, 07:46:42 PM »
who is him?

Kuleana the resident china supporter.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: China warns Taiwan 'independence means war' as US dismisses comments
« Reply #59 on: January 29, 2021, 07:46:57 PM »
who is him?

He was trying to say Biden is not as pro-China as Kuleana after asking K how much China was paying him.

Funny, since the Bidens have raked in MILLIONS for their family for a long time.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw